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So what is the moral of Breaking Bad?
- Thread starter Cybersai
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there's 3209 gajillion moral heedings at play. each one gets buried by another within an episode or even from moment to moment.
But the internet seemed to agree everywhere that the most important moral of the story is to always remain faithful to your husband no matter what or else you're a bitch.
But the internet seemed to agree everywhere that the most important moral of the story is to always remain faithful to your husband no matter what or else you're a bitch.
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It blew my mind Walt had something like 8 million dollars or whatever it was...and he couldn't use it. Just buried it in the desert or a bin room or under his house or whatever. All that money and no way to spend it without the feds knowing what you did.
This is sick. Also, stories don't need morals — in fact moralizing stories are often the worst. It's a character drama, let's leave it at that, Walt's hubris brought him down.
What does drug dealing have to do with Toxic masculinity? Like c'mon now, lol.
He broke up with his girlfriend because she was more well off and he felt insecure. Then he refuses help at every turn because a man has to provide for his family. Along the way he drops that pretense and just starts doing it because it makes him feel big and he doesn't give a fuck who he hurts as long as he gets to be king.
You're right. No toxic masculinity here.
Apparently some seem to think that harmful pride comes from masculinity. I think those people that think this are complete idiots, but what can you do. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Walter White became a brutal murderous crime lord because of his ego. He refused to back down several times because it didn't make him feel like a man.
It's not that deep of a show. It's basically a superhero movie. There isn't a moral, it's pretty much a thrill ride. It ends with a machine gun battle vs. Nazis for fuck's sake. And the people acting like it's some thesis about toxic masculinity are getting high on their own supply.
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Why do people find it so strange I watch shows/movies on 1.5x speed? You get done in almost half the time, and if you're marathoning a show like I was (I watched a few eps a day, so at 1.5x speed I felt like I cut the runtime in half), I was able to watch all 5 seasons is just one week. Now I have free time to move on to the next show or movie I want to watch, instead of being stuck on one thing.
I wish 1.5x speed was invented in the early 2000's, I didn't discover it till the 2010's.
I wish 1.5x speed was invented in the early 2000's, I didn't discover it till the 2010's.
At the very beginning his rich friends offered him a job and to pay for his cancer treatment. Walt was insulted by it.
why didn't you watch it on x5 speed, you'd have been done even faster
There are no morals. World is fucked up. I mean you see people killing kids in the show for money like
Todd
if you have a stake in a company that actually has the potential to go somewhere then maybe don't sell it for five grand.
Thats pride. Nothing to do with Toxic Masculinity. Yeah, let me work for the guy that took my idea, foh.
Yeah I'm right. It's called ego, pride and being stubborn. And it is know that absolute power corrupts.
All of the shit Walter is dealt with (sans cancer) is because he feels like he needs to be the breadwinner, to be the ideal head of the family.
Don't pay attention to him, he keeps repeating it because he knows it gets reactions, he's a troll. Quick search his post history with "1.5" and you'll see.
Why the fuck would you do that. Especially with this show? Like I'd imagine you'd want to stop at least when the seasons became more insane...
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wrong.
the moral of breaking bad is that self sacrifice can still hurt the ones you love
The healthcare thing is not the moral of the show. It's a sticking point for sure, but if that were the case, the show could be over in a season. It's part of the inciting incident that kicks the plot into gear.
The very broad, very scary idea the show tackles is, "Humans, even the most seemingly decent and innocent, are capable of absolute atrocities and evil given the right set of circumstances." No work of fiction before BB has communicated that as organically to my mind.
In Walt's specific case, he feels useless, emasculated, worthless, knows he's capable of greater things and has now received a timeframe to rectify these things thanks to cancer. A potentially tragic story but nothing malicious at play. In fact, you see this kind of story play out pretty often in fiction in the structure of a hero's story or redemption. Think of Rocky: thinks he's a loser, worthless, small, but he's got this very specific skillset that allows him to reach his true potential. This isn't something to be frowned at. We cheer for humans who fulfil their potential at whatever the cost to break free of their personal shackles.
But what if, instead of boxing skills, you were extremely well versed in chemistry, and you're only given a few months thanks to sudden cancer, to actually utilize these skills? In Walt's mind, the only way for him to make something of his life before it's all over, to prove to himself that he's not completely worthless, to be the best at something, is to cook meth. Like Rocky, he'll be remembered this way. And lying to himself that this is a means of making money fast to leave behind for his family, he's managed to create a dissonance.
It's a pretty innocent desire: make something of myself. Be more than a loser. It's understandable and every one of us strives for that. That's why it's so terrifying.
This is grossly undervaluing BB. You ever seen Taxi Driver? It's not that deep of a movie. It's pretty much a thrill ride. It ends with a shootout vs pimps for fuck's sake.
The very broad, very scary idea the show tackles is, "Humans, even the most seemingly decent and innocent, are capable of absolute atrocities and evil given the right set of circumstances." No work of fiction before BB has communicated that as organically to my mind.
In Walt's specific case, he feels useless, emasculated, worthless, knows he's capable of greater things and has now received a timeframe to rectify these things thanks to cancer. A potentially tragic story but nothing malicious at play. In fact, you see this kind of story play out pretty often in fiction in the structure of a hero's story or redemption. Think of Rocky: thinks he's a loser, worthless, small, but he's got this very specific skillset that allows him to reach his true potential. This isn't something to be frowned at. We cheer for humans who fulfil their potential at whatever the cost to break free of their personal shackles.
But what if, instead of boxing skills, you were extremely well versed in chemistry, and you're only given a few months thanks to sudden cancer, to actually utilize these skills? In Walt's mind, the only way for him to make something of his life before it's all over, to prove to himself that he's not completely worthless, to be the best at something, is to cook meth. Like Rocky, he'll be remembered this way. And lying to himself that this is a means of making money fast to leave behind for his family, he's managed to create a dissonance.
It's a pretty innocent desire: make something of myself. Be more than a loser. It's understandable and every one of us strives for that. That's why it's so terrifying.
This is grossly undervaluing BB. You ever seen Taxi Driver? It's not that deep of a movie. It's pretty much a thrill ride. It ends with a shootout vs pimps for fuck's sake.
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selling your stakes in a company you help build for some chump change is dumb.
Being overqualified for your job leads to major problems in long term. You're selling yourself short. Like how Walt couldn't find a better job with his credentials? He lost his self worth and confidence. He gained them back again but with a wrong way... He could use that brain for something legal instead of wasting his years at some shitty high school until it was too late. This is actually a common problem, many people are just scared of taking the risk and try to make their lives better and stick to a shitty safe job they have all their life.
Moral of the story? Don't make stupid fucking mistakes with your major life decisions. Easier said than done of course.
Being overqualified for your job leads to major problems in long term. You're selling yourself short. Like how Walt couldn't find a better job with his credentials? He lost his self worth and confidence. He gained them back again but with a wrong way... He could use that brain for something legal instead of wasting his years at some shitty high school until it was too late. This is actually a common problem, many people are just scared of taking the risk and try to make their lives better and stick to a shitty safe job they have all their life.
Moral of the story? Don't make stupid fucking mistakes with your major life decisions. Easier said than done of course.
Rape is not an action exclusive to males. He didn't go on the show being this super macho guy sleeping with hookers, cheating and telling his son "grab them by the pussy" or "boys don't cry" And to be clear. I don't know how some people defend that scene. Saying "She didn't say no" Skyler is terrified about her safety and her son. Because she knows what Walt has become.
Why do we have to reduce this incredible series to a fortune cookie moral? It's a show about burdened and deeply flawed people whose natures conflict with what they think they want, what they're supposed to want. It's about choices and consequences, moral flexibility, and the stubbornness of human nature. The lies we tell ourselves, the contradictions built into every moment of existence.
There are a lot of lessons you could take from Breaking Bad because it's one of those shows that uncovers truths about life by observing three-dimensional characters.
There are a lot of lessons you could take from Breaking Bad because it's one of those shows that uncovers truths about life by observing three-dimensional characters.
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