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Orayn

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Oct 25, 2017
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You guys ever think about how the Road Runner would have actually killed Wile E. Coyote by allowing him to fall to the ground from such heights after he realized he could no longer run in thin air off the edge of that cliff
 

Lady Bow

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Nov 30, 2017
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welp

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Kewlmyc

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Oct 25, 2017
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Every Bakugo thread turns into this.

"He's a violent sociopath."

"But he changes later in the manga/anime. You don't understand."
 

Orayn

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not knowing if people have read ahead of the anime legitimately does make some parts of this discussion hard. A surprisingly selection of characters do fuck up and get excluded from a major story arc in a way that wouldn't happen if they were just the creator's favorite perfect little children who can do no wrong.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Too bad he's a piece of shit bully that tries to get the protagonist to commit suicide and never apologizes for it. Look at how badass he is!

Has he gotten any better since chapter 120 when I put it on hold because of how much of a shithead he was and how the narrative wants us to be okay with it?
 

Lotus

One Winged Slayer
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Phrozenflame500

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
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How was Bakugo using lethal force on Deku in the middle of a training exercise in episode 5 or 6 anywhere near "dealt with." Bare minimum the kid would be expelled if he did something like that.

But again, he's a creator's pet. Internal logic of the series doesn't apply to Bakugo because he's so special in the author's eyes.
Wew, ok just for you I went back and watched that scene. He didn't use lethal force, All Might was concerned he was going to use lethal force and Bakugo showed indifference, but Deku takes the hit on the chin and ends up being fine. Moreover, even if it was lethal force it still wouldn't be inconsistent at all. The school itself throws lethal (or at the very least "critically injured") force in basically every training exercise and they're pretty much indifferent to it because they have a magic instant-healer on staff. You can argue it's dumb, but it follows the internal logic of the series (where the school is more or less criminally negligent by real world standards).

A lighthearted thread about buying some moon land turns into this.
Seriously lmao
 

Cronogear

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Oct 27, 2017
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Bakugo's entire purpose is to be such a comically huge asshole to everyone so that when he suddenly stops being an asshole people can call it character development.
 

Orayn

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Oct 25, 2017
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Bakugo's entire purpose is to be such a comically huge asshole to everyone so that when he suddenly stops being an asshole people can call it character development.
There's a little more texture to how he got that way and why it eventually decreases but this is basically correct.
 

Soul Unison

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Oct 25, 2017
1,450
Bakugou became completely unsympathetic to me when Deku was trying to work with him and his response was to backhand him across the face with a giant metal gauntlet.
 

Booki

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Oct 25, 2017
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Brooklyn
I'm getting "Step Brothers" vibes, but I'm not gonna question it.
In universe he's 100% aware of being "Family Dollar All Might." His characterization is about stepping out of someone else's shadow and the anime is only just getting to the point where we see that start to happen.

I have no beef with Deku fans. People are free to love the underdog and I encourage them to do so. Deku will become his own man in the future, but at 16-years-old, he's boring. I don't care about all your planning and willpower when you're just gonna break your arm punching a dude in the face. Cut out the sappy shit and keep it moving.

Does this make me a bad guy? Probably. I've been a Yamcha fan for like 20 years. I'm damaged goods. I'd love to hear from the people that cape for Minerta, though.
 

Lotus

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is the guy getting punished in any way for his past actions

Nope!

Is he less of a massive asshole?

Slightly less!

Has he apologized for anything even if reluctantly?

Nope!

Any way to expand on this without big spoilers?

He's become more thoughtful, but he's still as rude and obnoxious as ever
 

NSESN

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm getting "Step Brothers" vibes, but I'm not gonna question it.


I have no beef with Deku fans. People are free to love the underdog and I encourage them to do so. Deku will become his own man in the future, but at 16-years-old, he's boring. I don't care about all your planning and willpower when you're just gonna break your arm punching a dude in the face. Cut out the sappy shit and keep it moving.

Does this make me a bad guy? Probably. I've been a Yamcha fan for like 20 years. I'm damaged goods. I'd love to hear from the people that cape for Minerta, though.
You should read Deku last manga fight then
 

Orayn

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have no beef with Deku fans. People are free to love the underdog and I encourage them to do so. Deku will become his own man in the future, but at 16-years-old, he's boring. I don't care about all your planning and willpower when you're just gonna break your arm punching a dude in the face. Cut out the sappy shit and keep it moving.
If you've only kept up with the anime I have good news about what's coming, we've pretty much seen the end of "Deku emulates All Might and breaks his fucking arms again."
 

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
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Honestly, the way they portrayed this so over the top makes me question why the rescue was even necessary.
Bakugou could've basically flown away at any time. The only issue I can think of would be how he'd land, but I'm sure he could slow his descent with a series of smaller explosions.

Nah it was necessary. Bakugo could have launched like he did, but as we saw they could have caught up to him. It took Mt. Lady playing goalkeeper and the boys rocketing out of there for him to get all the way away.
 

Jersey_Tom

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Dec 2, 2017
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You're missing my point. You specifically mentioned how Kaachan is basically lighting nitro on a kid's face, something that would horribly maim the child IRL. Problem of course being this is a cartoon and people on this show only seem to be seriously hurt for plot reasons. Again, this was literally a thing that happened at the Sports Festival:

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I mean the negligence of letting this happen and realistically leading to most of the people in the stands likely being dead? The public sure as shit wouldn't have needed Stain and Shigaraki to set the stage for why the heroes of this universe might not warrant trust. That's why I say violence in this world is wacky. The rules are extremely plot convienent, hence why I'm not getting hung up so much on Kaachan possibly exploding a kid's face off as opposed to the emotional weight of being bullied by a kid at school.
 

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If you've only kept up with the anime I have good news about what's coming, we've pretty much seen the end of "Deku emulates All Might and breaks his fucking arms again."

Admittedly, isn't that only because Eri heals him as he's breaking himself? :P (Not that I mind, that fight had rad enough artistic direction for me to be fully onboard with it)
 

Orayn

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nah it was necessary. Bakugo could have launched like he did, but as we saw they could have caught up to him. It took Mt. Lady playing goalkeeper and the boys rocketing out of there for him to get all the way away.
Also wasn't a big distraction mostly needed because he was within arm's reach of Tomura, who was ready to grab and kill him?

Admittedly, isn't that only because Eri heals him as he's breaking himself? :P (Not that I mind, that fight had rad enough artistic direction for me to be fully onboard with it)

I was more referring to the way he starts to develop a style that's all his own.
 

Deleted member 35011

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Also wasn't a big distraction mostly needed because he was within arm's reach of Tomura, who was ready to grab and kill him?



I was more referring to the way he starts to develop a style that's all his own.

Oh yeah, that's totally fair. Hoping they keep that up, I am still kind of nervous about the direction they're taking his character.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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You're missing my point. You specifically mentioned how Kaachan is basically lighting nitro on a kid's face, something that would horribly maim the child IRL. Problem of course being this is a cartoon and people on this show only seem to be seriously hurt for plot reasons. Again, this was literally a thing that happened at the Sports Festival:

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All throughout the fight the staff watching the fight were extremely concerned about Deku pushing himself too far and potentially doing permanent damage. And when the fight got to that point they immediately tried to intervene and both knock them out with Midnight's sleep gass and keep them away from each other with Cementoss's series of walls. It's not that they didn't try to stop the fight, it's that they were inadequate before Deku and Todoroki's raw quirk power. Which was more of a reaction than anything Bakugo has done.

Wew, ok just for you I went back and watched that scene. He didn't use lethal force, All Might was concerned he was going to use lethal force and Bakugo showed indifference, but Deku takes the hit on the chin and ends up being fine.
Not what happens. Bakugo whiffs his attack and misses Deku, but the shockwave blew him away. All Might's immediate reaction to Bakugo using his gloves this way was "Are you trying to kill him?!" to which Bakugo responds "He'll be fine if he can dodge!"

I'll trust All Might's take on the dangers of what Bakugo did over yours.
 

orochi91

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Oct 26, 2017
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I love Bakugo, dude is hella powerful/talented and unabashedly confident.

Wish he could have been the "main" character instead of Deku.

Deku's crybaby antics are tiresome, and I still can't get over the fact that he had to be gifted these OP powers just to be relevant to the plot.

Give Bakugo the WHOLE moon, please~~~
 

WetWaffle

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Oct 25, 2017
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I love Bakugo, dude is hella powerful and unabashedly confident.

Wish he could have been the "main" character instead of Deku.

Deku's crybaby antics are tiresome, and I still can't get over the fact that he had to be gifted these OP powers just to be relevant to the plot.

Give Bakugo the WHOLE moon, please~~~
I don't think a character who tells people to kill themselves and tells even their own mother to die would be a good role model/protagonist for a show aimed at young boys.
 

Takyon

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Nov 8, 2017
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I love Bakugo, dude is hella powerful and unabashedly confident.

Wish he could have been the "main" character instead of Deku.

Deku's crybaby antics are tiresome, and I still can't get over the fact that he had to be gifted these OP powers just to be relevant to the plot.
This makes no sense whatsoever. The plot exists because of that fact. Did you watch the secret seasons of MHA that came before season 1? lmao.
 

Lotus

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wish he could have been the "main" character instead of Deku.

Deku's a pretty whatever lead, but hell no, Bakugo would be insufferable as the MC

This makes no sense whatsoever. The plot exists because of that fact. Did you watch the secret seasons of MHA that came before season 1? lmao.

I wanna say he phrased that really badly, and just meant he doesn't like how Deku lucked into getting OfA, but who knows lol
 

Tace

Avenger
Nov 1, 2017
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Ya know, I'm glad MHA is getting threads. Bakugo always bringing people together

A lighthearted thread about buying some moon land turns into this.

Bakugo triggers people. I think a lot of people project some of their own experiences a little too much when it comes to him

Deku=Gentle
Kacchan= Grenadier
Minoru= Gold Balls
Todoroki= Equinox The Thermodynamic Man
Ochaco= Freefall
Sato= The Ant
Fumikage=Darkstar
All For One= Pandemic
Tomura=Wither

Ones I can think of right now

Here's a couple more:
Kamui Woods=Spider-Man
Tsuyu=Toad
The manga has some more as well
 

orochi91

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Oct 26, 2017
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I don't think a character who tells people to kill themselves and tells even their own mother to die would be a good role model/protagonist for a show aimed at young boys.
Don't care, dude is entertaining to watch.

Deku is too cliche for my tastes; Shonen genre needs a revamp.

I wanna say he phrased that really badly, and just meant he doesn't like how Deku lucked into getting OfA, but who knows lol
+1
 

Phrozenflame500

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
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I'll trust All Might's take on the dangers of what Bakugo did over yours.
I mean he confirmed it wasn't lethal in the next scene anyways ("Despite his fierce posturing, he is not actually trying to kill Midorya" if we're doing direct quotes). So you don't have to take my word for it.

Anyways this is sort of drifting away from the point, I'm not trying to argue the dude's not an asshat, just that the show isn't really inconsistent about it. At the end of the day people like him because
Don't care, dude is entertaining to watch.
 

WetWaffle

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Oct 25, 2017
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Deku risked his life and reminded All Might of himself. Luck has little to do with it.
Wouldn't most heroes think what Deku did was extremely stupid though? All he would have accomplished was giving the villain an extra hostage if All Might wasn't there and did nothing of use other than throw a backpack at it.
 

munchie64

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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Wouldn't most heroes think what Deku did was extremely stupid though? All he would have accomplished was giving the villain an extra hostage if All Might wasn't there and did nothing of use other than throw a backpack at it.
Of course, and part of his development is realising this like with rescuing Bakugo. But the fact that he tried shows he has a real heroic streak. It's basic stuff, but since it's the beginning, I'm OK with it.

It's later that we learn how similar he is to All Might which adds to it imo.
 

Nightbird

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Oct 27, 2017
3,780
Germany
Everyone focuses on Bakugo telling Deku to die, conveniently ignoring that that's what he says to everything that mildly irritates him, even inanimate objects.

Those same people are also ignoring that he's getting more and more calmer, but because its not happening immediately it doesn't count.

And lastly, Bakugo will never apologize for something just like that. In three seasons he said thank you a grand total of one time, and that's after mobilizing a special squad, made out of the top heroes to save his ass.
His style of apologizing is being less of an ass towards said person.

I've never seen such resentful behavior towards a character that is clearly progressing in the right direction. It's almost as if the haters want him to stay an absolute asshole so they can continue to complain about him.
 

WetWaffle

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Oct 25, 2017
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Of course, and part of his development is realising this like with rescuing Bakugo. But the fact that he tried shows he has a real heroic streak. It's basic stuff, but since it's the beginning, I'm OK with it.
I'm still kinda miffed that Mirio got jacked out of OFA cause Deku was being a suicidal dumbass lol.
 

Takyon

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Nov 8, 2017
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Wouldn't most heroes think what Deku did was extremely stupid though? All he would have accomplished was giving the villain an extra hostage if All Might wasn't there and did nothing of use other than throw a backpack at it.
Sure.
I think it has more to do with the fact that Am, at that point, had lost his ideals. He was just going to stand there berating himself and let Kachan potentially die. Even though it was "useless", Deku stepping out and taking action was the catalyst for AM stepping up and a life being saved.
 

Orayn

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wouldn't most heroes think what Deku did was extremely stupid though? All he would have accomplished was giving the villain an extra hostage if All Might wasn't there and did nothing of use other than throw a backpack at it.
I felt like it was very similar to Steve Rogers jumping on the fake grenade in the first Captain America movie, even if the stakes were real in this case. It was his immediate willingness to help that really spoke to All Might, not the logic or lack thereof.
 

WetWaffle

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sure.
I think it has more to do with the fact that Am, at that point, had lost his ideals. He was just going to stand there berating himself and let Kachan potentially die. Even though it was "useless", Deku stepping out and taking action was the catalyst for AM stepping up and a life being saved.
I felt like it was very similar to Steve Rogers jumping on the fake grenade in the first Captain America movie, even if the stakes were real in this case. It was his immediate willingness to help that really spoke to All Might, not the logic or lack thereof.
I suppose it works at least. Still don't like it cause we got this stupid face
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