Seems like a lot of people care actually. It will outsell the Xbox and PC version I'm guessing. On a platform with far less consoles sold that's impressive.
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Digital Foundry: Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy: Switch, Xbox, PS4 and PC Versions Tested!
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Seems like a lot of people care actually. It will outsell the Xbox and PC version I'm guessing. On a platform with far less consoles sold that's impressive.
Surprised the Switch latency issue wasn't quoted in the OP, that's far more important than the graphics:
Looks like Pro controller is the way to go if you're playing docked.
That's really pathetic for what is essentially an on-rails game. I thought it was just the Switch version that's 30fps. Ukulele is open world running on Unity Engine and it fares better than this on Switch.
Ahhh, one thing I totally forgot to mention - the Pro controller only works when docked! You can't use it at all in portable mode right now.
I wonder if there might be a follow up patch for the game? Input lag shouldn't be a thing and the game does feel a little sluggish on the switch
The PC version absolutely goes above 60fps.
I've been running it at 165.
How? The suggestions I've tried don't produce smooth results.
I need to try a few other things.
They patch the PC version yet? Shit's busted with 144fps Gsync monitors.
They just straight up need a tickbox for the framerate limit to disable it.
And the game runs at like 16fps capped when played in windowed mode. I've never played a game that fucked with the framerate cap this much before. It's nuts.
They just straight up need a tickbox for the framerate limit to disable it.
And the game runs at like 16fps capped when played in windowed mode. I've never played a game that fucked with the framerate cap this much before. It's nuts.
Didn't the fast-sync into the nvidia panel didn't work for you, John?
It does work but it looks juddery in motion. The frame-rate does increase to 75fps, as it should with this monitor, but it doesn't visually appear smooth.
The OG XB1 runs the game at 1080p, and the PS4 Pro runs it at 1440p.
1440p is about double the pixels of 1080p.
The PS4 Pro GPU has nearly 4 times the power of the XB1 GPU.
*thinking emoji*
1440p is about double the pixels of 1080p.
The PS4 Pro GPU has nearly 4 times the power of the XB1 GPU.
*thinking emoji*
That is inexcusably sloppy work right there.
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lol you think the X is strong enough to run a game at double the FPS as Pro at the same res? Uhhh got some bad news for you my man.... time to get a PC
Granted, Pro could be higher res than 1440p but who knows what the dev's priorities are.
Oof not good at all on that Switch version. So many missing and reduced graphical features.
And its super blurry and low resolution.
And its super blurry and low resolution.
It could've its all about priorities. Your latter assumption is just as good as my original one was. Unless you know more than me or something cause they didnt couldnt even get the 4K on the pro.
There are only two reasons this game isn't 60fps on the Pro and X, and neither is a good one.
a) The devs decided they didn't want to have different framerates on the more powerful consoles. Maybe for speed running reasons, fairness, etc.
b) The game they coded actually could not run at 60fps on that hardware, in which case their game engine/code is horribly inefficient. This is a very simple game that ran on the original PSOne in 1996. Nothing about this new versions suggests it should be that technically demanding.
You know Devs can do a Performance Mode, Resolution Mode thing right if they wanted to?
Plenty games have that option. This game surely can do 60fps at less than 4k and other settings adjusted accordingly
That's convinced me to get it on pc,was torn between XONE and pc,but I prefer 60fps
Fast Sync will render at multiples of refresh, 60 120 180 240 whatever, but it should look perfectly fine as long as you are not constantly wavering in raw FPS. Perhaps it has to do with your non-standard refresh and this game's logic for animation? Hard to say! Perhaps I shall give it a try...
Frame stepping in between refreshes in recorded video give you a hint? (msi afterburner recording at 75 or so)
Yeah, I'm starting to think the non-standard refresh rate may be causing an issue but I need to do more testing. Either way, it's not looking correct yet.
That PC version. I'm glad higher framerates are getting more and more attention, and demanded by console gamers. The difference is massive.
Where did I say they couldn't? All I said was if you think X can render a PS4 Pro game at the same res and double the FPS you're fuckin high. It's basically a RX 580 machine with a shitty CPU vs. a RX 480 machine with a shitty CPU.
thanks! I'll test it out. Regarding FPS, I did not have any luck with unlocking frame rate.
480p on Switch shouldnt be a thing. Doesn't Odyssey run at a higher resolution than 480p, at 60 fps to boot?
Yes, but the performance on other platforms seems below what's possible as well, so the game is underperforming on all platforms. Switch just got the worst of it.
Yeah to be fair Odyssey was designed with the Switch hardware in mind.
Crash was designed as a technical showpiece PS4 title that then had to be stripped down to run on tablet hardware.
Brilliant analysis once again. I've always been a massive fan of Digital Foundry's work.
I'm very impressed with how this game turned out on the Nintendo Switch. Although its been paired back quite a lot on paper, those features aren't necessarily missed unless you go looking for them.
Dark1x, I think I noticed a little script slip up at 14:02. Not sure if there is anything that can be done to edit the video after its been posted?
Keep up the good work.
I'm very impressed with how this game turned out on the Nintendo Switch. Although its been paired back quite a lot on paper, those features aren't necessarily missed unless you go looking for them.
Dark1x, I think I noticed a little script slip up at 14:02. Not sure if there is anything that can be done to edit the video after its been posted?
Keep up the good work.
480p is 640x480. This is 853x480. Its about 33% more pixels than stamdard 480p.
Obviously still low res but not quite 480p.
Odyssey was designed with the Switch in mind. Crash was ported after the fact. Not the same thing.
you have to consider this that when you move camera in Odyssey the game can become really blurry
It does work with the Pro Controller in portable mode. However when you change controller methods you have to restart the game or it's not recognized.
Nvidia/Steam FPS counters are saying 144FPS for me with fullscreen, and vsync off in-game, although I believe Gsync does not work because it's noticeable when it drops a little - it also doesn't seem to ever go above your monitor's refresh rate, like it's locked to that. It would be awesome if you guys could figure out what's going on there!
Thank you for explaining what's going on with the Switch controls. Going from PC -> Switch I was doing absolutely terribly. It's really noticeable when switching between the two. Jumping off the very edge of a platform is harder
No, it's not underperforming on all platforms. It's a game with advanced, CG-like graphics. The developers chose the maximum resolutions for each system that would let them run the game at a steady 30 frames per second. It's a conscious choice. Maybe in the future they could release an update to bring a 60 FPS mode, but it WOULD come at the expense of halving the rendered pixels. Which on the X or even on the Pro would look fine, but perhaps people on PS4 and the base XBOX One would think it's too soft.
As for the Switch, it's pretty par for the course. It mostly holds visual parity (Where on a phone screen it looks the same at first glance) and renders ~44.5% of the pixels that the base XBOX One does when in docked mode and ~22.2% when undocked. Many other games do this, as that seems to be where the Switch sits in performance, GPU-wise. When docked it performs like a GCN GPU of a bit less than 600 GFLOPS would perform, which is consistent with other Nvidia/AMD GPUs. (EG. how a GTX 1060 is roughly equal to an RX 480/580) It's just how it is. This is not the port you should be complaining about, aside from that nonsensical issue with the Pro Controller and the input lag.
I didn't say the Pro and X would maintain their same resolutions at 60fps. I just said the game could run at 60fps on those platforms if Vicarious Visions wanted it to, and if you're developing a platformer why the hell wouldn't you choose 60fps over 30? They made the wrong choice here, and it's a shame.
As for the Switch, the reason I said it got the worst treatment was because of the less than stable framerate. At least the PS4/XB1 got a solid 30, but the Switch isn't even solid in that regard.
Oh whew, glad I didn't put that in the video then! How annoying.
I have to disagree with this, considering that Nintendo puts out a lot of platformers I think it's probably more likely the average Switch owner would be interested in a platformer than other platforms.
I mean, everything feels awful with every console after you played with a decent pc at 60 fps or higher. It's not a news.
Well with how insanely well it sold on all platforms, they should definitely be given more time to do it, if it's possible.
Well, I don't disagree that a 60FPS mode should exist on the enhanced consoles, but it's not underperforming in any technical aspect. On the X, it's rendering at native 4K!
I see. Sounds like some of these issues can and should be fixed with a patch.