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djplaeskool

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Nothing wrong with giving it a shot but if you're going to go for the Hail Mary that's not the way to do it, at all.

Schumer should have advised him to pick someone he could definitely get confirmed. Because Obama couldn't get the votes for Garland, and that was really embarrassing. You wouldn't want to put up someone like Garland, who Obama couldn't get the votes for. It's probably killing Obama that he put up Garland and failed. And if Obama couldn't get Garland confirmed, who could?

And then you leave the room. Maybe just say "Garland" one more time.

lol This would have been one of the greatest political Okey-Dokes of all time.
 

mightynine

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Today in if nothing else, AOC shows how to simply rebuff a conservative outlet's attempt to trash her platform news:

 

adamsappel

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Was watching that Bourdain clip of him in WV and one dude casually explains they elected him to piss on everything and throw bombs because they "feel ignored."

I nearly broke my fucking TV
I'm originally from West Virginia. I loved Bourdain, but he gave Trumpists three segments to praise him, but didn't ask the political opinions of the farm-to-table people or minorities.
 

Ac30

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Would be an amazing twist that would have gotten someone kicked out of the writer's room for The West Wing.

It worked for the budget punt!

(Won't work here ofc, Trump isn't that stupid.)

I'm originally from West Virginia. I loved Bourdain, but he gave Trumpists three segments to praise him, but didn't ask the political opinions of the farm-to-table people or minorities.

Yeah that was a little weird. The town was like quarter/third African American/latino and I can't remember Bourdain interviewing even one on the President.
 

UberTag

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Oct 25, 2017
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Should have pitched it as doing something Obama never could instead of something to unify the country.
You'd think Chuck would know how to appeal to Trump by now. God knows everyone else seems to... even Kim Jong Un gets it. But Chuck Schumer? Trying to appeal to Trump's sense of appeasing the whole electorate and unifying the country? As if he would EVER want to do that? Hell, Trump's approval rating would go down if he did that.
 

Luminish

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Ezra Klein makes a really good point about Trump's politics that I think is integral to understanding not just how his strategic mind works, but how the minds of many voters work: https://pca.st/wBIH#t=36m5s (timestamped link, he talks for a few minutes to make the point)
The recent With Friends Like These podcast had a pretty good episode about politics as identity instead of politics as policy which I think falls along those same lines.

https://crooked.com/podcast/when-ideology-is-identity-with-lilliana-mason/
 

Teggy

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I don't even get this headline. Who else is supposed to pay? This is exactly what's supposed to happen if there is a labor shortage. It's like Econ 101.

 

Kirblar

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I don't even get this headline. Who else is supposed to pay? This is exactly what's supposed to happen if there is a labor shortage. It's like Econ 101.


I'm completely onboard the "keep lowering unemployment doofuses this is good" train (Trump is about to fuck it all up with the tarriffs though)
 

shadow_shogun

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@GretchenCarlson

This .... on the 2 year anniversary eve of filing my harassment lawsuit; giving women a voice, letting them know you can be believed, launching a national movement to stand up and speak up and say enough is enough. Life ... works in mysterious ways. #BeFierce




The Daily Beast @thedailybeast

Trump has officially announced former Fox executive Bill Shine as his new comms chief, but several lawsuits against the network allege Shine was Roger Ailes' chief protector through years of sexually harassing female staff https://thebea.st/2MREcUc

2:38 PM - Jul 5, 2018
 

djplaeskool

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I don't even get this headline. Who else is supposed to pay? This is exactly what's supposed to happen if there is a labor shortage. It's like Econ 101.



Indeed.
This is where wage growth is supposed to fill in and foment competition within the market, as opposed to this loud, collective opining for a cheap and desperate labor force.
 

Kirblar

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Ezra Klein makes a really good point about Trump's politics that I think is integral to understanding not just how his strategic mind works, but how the minds of many voters work: https://pca.st/wBIH#t=36m5s (timestamped link, he talks for a few minutes to make the point)
These are people you want nowhere near policy creation, regardless of party.

It's why Trump's so ineffective. And why a Dem equivalent would be as well. You need someone who can talk like a dummy without being one.
 

Abstrusity

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Indeed.
This is where wage growth is supposed to fill in and foment competition within the market, as opposed to this loud, collective opining for a cheap and desperate labor force.
Sticky wages tho guys :^) T hat's why people tend to leave jobs for better pay elsewhere, which I believe I saw in an article this week, too.
 

studyguy

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Anything in exchange for the wall is stupid when we already offered the wall during the first DACA/Immigration talks and they still turned it down. The wall is a dumb meme and even the administration knows it.
 

Kirblar

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Employers always say there is a shortage.

They're also not wrong, there aren't enough skilled employees to meet demand even in a recession.

This is the skills/ability mismatch issue- we have eternal vacancies but there are only so many people capable of actually doing them and even fewer who have chosen to pick up the experience and training.
 

Linkura

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I don't even get this headline. Who else is supposed to pay? This is exactly what's supposed to happen if there is a labor shortage. It's like Econ 101.


You are supposed to raise wages you fuckheads


Employers always say there is a shortage.

And his link to the 2009 article just further proves my point. 30-45k for an RN roflmao. Perhaps if you paid them what they're worth, you wouldn't have trouble hiring.
 
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Abstrusity

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They're also not wrong, there aren't enough skilled employees to meet demand even in a recession.

This is the skills/ability mismatch issue- we have eternal vacancies but there are only so many people capable of actually doing them and even fewer who have chosen to pick up the experience and training.
Ideally we'd be training more people and reducing the costs of training and education if we actually wanted to do anything about it. "The free market will fix it!" only goes so far.
 

B-Dubs

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They're also not wrong, there aren't enough skilled employees to meet demand even in a recession.

This is the skills/ability mismatch issue- we have eternal vacancies but there are only so many people capable of actually doing them and even fewer who have chosen to pick up the experience and training.
A lot of employers also want applicants to have far more experience than the job would actually require. They also don't want to pay what the jobs are actually worth. They want a ton of experience for very little money.
 

Kirblar

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Ideally we'd be training more people and reducing the costs of training and education if we actually wanted to do anything about it. "The free market will fix it!" only goes so far.
The eternally open vacancies falls into "wants are unlimited, resources are limited."

Reducing costs of training/education only helps so much when only so many people are capable of doing it in the first place.
 

Vimes

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I don't even get this headline. Who else is supposed to pay? This is exactly what's supposed to happen if there is a labor shortage. It's like Econ 101.



Truck drivers are in perilously low supply, Silicon Valley continues to struggle to fill vacancies, and employers across the grid are coping with a skills mismatch as the economy edges ever closer to full employment.

This is what happens when have a pathological refusal to train people for a full decade. Cry more, assholes.
 
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