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Playco Armboy

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As long as it beats Justice League so someone can make that inevitable thread mocking Snyder for his 'flavor of the week' claim.
 

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Deadline is saying at least $11M for Ant-Man previews based on early data.

I believe it. Looked at some shows times around me and they are a hell of a lot fuller than I was expecting. It's looking like this is going to have a huge boost over the original.
 

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my screening was pretty packed, which surprised me.




infinity war hype too strong.


Yeah I honestly feel like IW is giving it a boost. I'm sure the sequel would have been up over the original no matter what (I mean pretty much all MCU films are) but if it opens to 90+ million that's a giant increase.

It's pretty crazy how well recieved IW was considering how off the rails that movie could have gone. Gonna be wild to see what happens with Captain Marvel and Avengers 4 opening weekends
 
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Fallen Kingdom passes $1B worldwide today.

EDIT: Actually, Mojo's update says that it includes today overseas for some reason. So I guess it is possible that Fallen Kingdom is at $999M after today. Either way, $1B has basically been reached, given that Asia is already into Friday.
 
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What is the over/under on Captain Marvel cracking $1 billion?

I think it can sneak over. I'm thinking it'll perform like Wonder Woman but without the DCEU drag parachute slowing it down.

It could hit a billion. I think the fact that her role will lead directly into avengers four helps a ton

Add to the fact
she got the Bat Signal treatment at the end
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How many more markets does I2 have left to hit? It passed $650m worldwide yesterday IIRC.

France (opened yesterday), UK, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Germany, Spain, Italy, and the majority of the smaller EU territories.

It's mostly Latin America, Asia (minus the three territories above), and Oceania so far.

EDIT: The big 5 in Europe, plus Japan, were $210M for the original Incredibles. That film only did $370M total overseas.
 

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$100m opening for Ant-Man and the Wasp.

I believe in the impossible.

Its looking more possible than I thought it ever would be. I went with mid 70's and I thought that was a nice increase over the first. The fact there is a very strong chance we are looking at a 90+ million opening for Ant-Man of all things is crazy to me.

Btw kswiston how do you think the delayed international release will affect Ant-Man?
 
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Its looking more possible than I thought it ever would be. I went with mid 70's and I thought that was a nice increase over the first. The fact there is a very strong chance we are looking at a 90+ million opening for Ant-Man of all things is crazy to me.

Btw kswiston how do you think the delayed international release will affect Ant-Man?

Possibly. UK is waiting a month. The film will be up for illegal streaming for weeks before then. World Cup delayed a bunch of films, and Disney is afraid to go against Mamma Mia 2 in the UK.
 

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Possibly. UK is waiting a month. The film will be up for illegal streaming for weeks before then.

Yep I was thinking the same. That's a pretty major delay and I honestly think it might impact the international take.

Either way we are looking at an opening in the US that may be close to 2x the last films opening. Pretty freaking crazy. Its looking like the Thursday number may end up closer to 13 million than the 11 million number
 

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Yeah I honestly feel like IW is giving it a boost. I'm sure the sequel would have been up over the original no matter what (I mean pretty much all MCU films are) but if it opens to 90+ million that's a giant increase.

It's pretty crazy how well recieved IW was considering how off the rails that movie could have gone. Gonna be wild to see what happens with Captain Marvel and Avengers 4 opening weekends

Oh yeah I'm sure Antman and Captain Marvel will get an Infinity Wars boost (especially Marvel since she was teased in IW).
 

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Oh yeah I'm sure Antman and Captain Marvel will get an Infinity Wars boost (especially Marvel since she was teased in IW).

I always think the Google Search metrics around Captain Marvel are hilarious to watch in the fallout of Infinity War

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Yeah she's gonna get one hell of an IW boost
 
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15 million has to be far fetched right?

I mean shit that would literally put it on par with SM: Homecoming. And Ant-Man actually has one of the highest "family" splits in the MCU which would actually bode well for its upcoming Saturday / Sunday number.

I refuse to believe it can go that high. 13 million in and of itself would be madness
 

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$13-15m in previews, huh. So if we take a mid-point of $14m, even a low previews-to-OW multiplier of 7.59 (Homecoming's) will give it over $105m.

A hold like Vol.2 puts it near Thor: Ragnarok's opening, but apparently Ant-Man 2's previews include 6 p.m. showings so there should be a bigger drop in the actual weekend days.

I'll estimate a flat 8.0 multiplier, giving it $112m. To think this could come within $5m of RDJ and MCU Spider-Man is incredible.
 

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I always think the Google Search metrics around Captain Marvel are hilarious to watch in the fallout of Infinity War

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Yeah she's gonna get one hell of an IW boost

This is very telling right here. What is the Antman and Wasp stinger? If it's Captain Marvel related again then the build up will be even bigger and the CM opening is going to be quite nice.
 

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This is very telling right here. What is the Antman and Wasp stinger? If it's Captain Marvel related again then the build up will be even bigger and the CM opening is going to be quite nice.

People don't really talk about it, but as someone involved in the sales side of the video game industry, Google Search metrics are among the most accurate indicators of a breakout success or failure as there is. Legitimately
 

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Oh yeah its way outperforming my expectations. Without a doubt.

Over $100m isn't locked in yet though by any means. We need to see what the actual preview number is and what Friday looks like.

If this somehow comes in doing 13 or more in previews though? Yeah $100m may happen
 

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This will have been the fourth MCU film in a row to break tracking significantly.

It's legitimately insane, and frankly we all don't have the perspective on how crazy this is because we are so close to it. Do you know how hard it is to make a sequel succeed? Or to make say 3 movies in a row succeed?

The performance of the MCU, no hyperbole, may be the most impressive entertainment trajectory / handling of a property in the history of entertainment. I'm honestly not exaggerating that by any means.
 

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It's funny because you know box office pundits and outlets will hazard at an 'optimistic' $120m OW guess at Captain Marvel and I'll sit back and laugh as it does GotG2 numbers instead.
 

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Yeah we need to calm down a bit. This may still "only" do 11 million on the preview number. Still nearly double the original Ant-Man so impressive as hell but let's not start getting crazy in here until we get more solid numbers.
 
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Keep in mind that it is summer, and that most of the MCU comps were in Spring or Fall while schools were in session. Also, Ant-Man started at 6pm. Most previous films started at 7pm.
 

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Ant-Man & The Wasp's budget is...surprisingly low? $130m? That's the same as its predecessor. It looks quite a bit more effects-heavy with all the Quantum Realm stuff.

That makes breaking even on its production budget with just domestic revenues very possible. And I doubt the marketing spend for this thing is more than Guardians Vol.2's ($80m). This is going to chalk up a sizable profit for Marvel Studios, much more than the first Ant-Man.
 
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