Not that fucking quiet. The damn thread is full of them. It does make it easier to spot when they out themselves though.
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16 year old MAGA bro gets soda thrown at him at Whataburger
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Not that fucking quiet. The damn thread is full of them. It does make it easier to spot when they out themselves though.
To those in this thread saying that MAGA hats aren't comparable to swastikas, would you at least agree that they are hate symbols of some sort? The people who wear them are stating that they support an administration that is harmful immigrants, PoC, Muslims, LGBTQIA+, women, and is currently putting small children in fucking concentration camps. No one who is even remotely disgusted by these actions would wear that shit period, let alone in public.
How many black people have to die in America before escalation is justified?
Your snarkiness doesn't quite work when the "left" just won a huge upset and ousted a career politician, and certainly won't be the last to do so.
All the decorum and cooperation BS of 2008-2016 sure worked out right?
Said I'd be out of the thread, but I just want to comment on this. I've been called a kike to my face, was taunted over being thrown in an oven and the same happening to my family and was told various other abhorrent anti-semitic stuff. So what did I do? Absolutely nothing. I didn't hit them, I didn't yell, I just stood there and glared while smiling. The times I DID retaliate were not physical at all, and the only significant time that happened was when some shithead drew a swastika on the wall next to my dorm room, which was straight up vandalism and thus an actually illegal thing unlike the prior speech.
So no, being a minority that has experienced bigotry doesn't mean you have to agree with the larger narrative of this thread.
I've been enjoying the whack-a-fascist booths as they get set-up and played out, though.
I understand where you're coming from, man. They're shocking, that's for sure. Still, they're real. Let them harden your resolve. This can never happen again.
That's too bad. It's relevant to the topic. MAGA is a hate symbol and it has been worn by murderers. And it's not like it really shows anything.
My thoughts were more along the line of I didn't expect to see Nazis murdering people in America.
Consider it a very poignant history lesson and why we can't allow that shit to keep happening.
Being a red hat is practically spitting in the face of all marginalized people so what would you expect? You are either being purposely obtuse or disingenuous.
I really don't like when people say we should just talk these things out with people on the right/ Trump supporters. These people don't give a shit and no amount of rationale conversation could ever bring them back to reality. People in the middle/moderates too, if they have seen what Trump and his people have done and are still on the fence then what could possibly be said to sway them to the left.
It's not them dying so they don't care.
Think of the poor children advocating for the death of an ethnicity. If we don't tell them politely to stop wanting to commit genocide they'll just get worse, don't you know?
Exactly. I love how people are splitting hairs acting like wanting to destroy your fellow man is a valid political opinion. The coded language really works on some people, I swear.
What witness account? It's literally been retracted from the only news article that mentions any witness. Every other reporting has no mention of a witness. What they do have is a video recording of this person assaulting this kid, twice, and calling him a racial expletive. People have been convicted of less. No judge is going to see an adult, who should have just walked away, doing this to a kid and think it's trivial. Grown ups should be better at controlling themselves.
Exactly, 2016 showed that talking with these deplorables doesn't work. Fuck them and stop taking the high road.
Unless you are disagreeing with me that hate speech is violence then we do not truly disagree regarding that particular post. Quote one of my posts and explain to me why I am wrong if you would like to do so. I have not incited violence, I have explained why violence (which is fucking soda in this case) is a natural response to hate speech and symbols.
I do not consider you a high and mighty comfortable type, and explicitly mentioned that those are folks who have never experienced racism. I don't know why you picked out my post and decided that I was targeting other minorities. We are obviously not a monolith, especially considering that we are not the same ethnicity.
They are absolutely terrible pictures, but don't forget that THAT is what MAGA is all about.
THAT is when America was great for these people. They could freely enslave and murder the weak and exposed.
They had something to feel superior over.
THAT is when America was great for these people. They could freely enslave and murder the weak and exposed.
They had something to feel superior over.
The Left just has to meet Trump in the middle by giving him everything he wants (kill DACA, kill healthcare, lock more kids in cages) and also stop being so darn mean, and then and only then, will the Right move an inch to the Left and things will be swell again.
Obviously.
Think what you want.
You don't know me, and you're not the only person in the world who's been discriminated against. I grew up in a place where I was a minority. I've been called racist slurs many times. Been bullied, literally spit on, and attacked because of my race. I know what it's like.
Hate speech is not violence, and those countries that have banned it I disagree with. I'd allow hate groups to assemble because it's their right. It has nothing to do with what they believe, or whether I do or do not agree with them. It feels incredibly myopic to me; so many are so focused on how terrible these ideologies are in the moment that they appear incapable of pulling back and recognizing something far more valuable.
The kid from Charlottesville is going to prison for life where he belongs.
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I kinda hope this becomes a thing to be honest.
Anyone wearing a MAGA hat in public get socked in the face or get a can of soda thrown at. You motherfucker want to marginalize people and separate babies from their mothers, you disgusting vile piece of filth. Go to your Trump rallies or I mean KKK rallies safe zone and wear your stupid hat as much as you want there.
Anyone wearing a MAGA hat in public get socked in the face or get a can of soda thrown at. You motherfucker want to marginalize people and separate babies from their mothers, you disgusting vile piece of filth. Go to your Trump rallies or I mean KKK rallies safe zone and wear your stupid hat as much as you want there.
Hate speech is psychologically damaging both to its victim and their community. It incites violence and allows for the assembly of hate groups. Take a look at hate crimes since Trump was elected.
You want hate groups to be able to assemble yet want violence to never break out? You cannot have both, no matter how much either one of us would want that to be true. I find it odd that as a minority that you are comfortable with their assembly, and that you're just bringing up that fact now.
Yes, that's what we're disagreeing on. Hate speech is certainly something, but violence it is not imo and thus does not deserve physical retaliation until it becomes a self-defense scenario. It's the difference between someone saying to me "all Jews should die" and "I'm going to kill you because you're a Jew". I have experienced the former and have done nothing physical in response, but the latter is where I'd gauge my options with physical retaliation being one of them because it could be a self-defense issue.
I think there are things to be said about incitement when you have a massive platform, but I would label that something else. Either way, I'm still disagreeing with the underlying narrative that an appropriate response to a 16 year old being a racist prick with his buddy at a fast food place is physical retaliation.
lol. funny how that works huh? Do us White adults even exits? I think we're all forever kids. For that matter, I'm not even sure Black kids exist at this point, they turn 5 and turn in to raging Hulks.
Hate speech leads to incitement on a local level and then later a national one. We fundamentally disagree and have nothing discuss then. If you call me Sacagawea to my face I will deck you before I even think about it. Simple as that. You do whatever you want to.
Just because you're willing to be a doormat for racists doesn't mean everyone else should be. You encourage racists by letting them shit on you and walk away.
This civility shit is just the new talking point the right is using. You have no right to tell people how to fight this hatred. Just stand off to the side and do nothing, like always, and stop getting in our way.
Guys, we just need to sit down and have tea with them and have a lovely chat. Then this will all go away. Simple and easy.
'These people are correct in saying this thing is happening but i don't think it's correct for you to say the exact same thing is happening.'
It's the fucking olympics in here.
Drops in the ocean that is a conservative infested government. Also I don't give a shit about politeness to a certain point. Talk shit, resist, protest, generally make conservatives feel like shit whatever. Thats fine. This whole scenario is just bad. I do enjoy all the assumptions made about me though for thinking this isn't great for the left, like how me saying "the left" must mean I appose it.
Locking kids in cages and taking away a person's medicaid that they need to live so the wealthy can get a tax break is civility in 2018. Fuck your harsh words, you liberal meanie. Don't make me vote for Trump again. #MAGA
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I think it's the rest of your shit talking points that make us think you aren't "left".
You do you though.
Drops dripping from the crest of a blue wave, yes. Isn't it refreshing?
You're twisting my words if you think I mean actual physical actions don't deserve physical retaliation. I'm intimately familiar with WW2 and its lead up from both stories from my grandfather and research, so you don't need to be condescending over this. I have a different view on speech that aligns with the ACLU, that's all. We disagree on a fundamental level and so there's really nothing more for me to say.
So why did you come back to the thread?
Just to have let's agree to disagree moments which you've already established from the previous convos in here.
Why can't you desire both? I can desire for both but can't demand it.
I don't bring my race into this because I don't believe one's opinion is to be granted more or less merit predicated upon their skin color (or any other criteria). That's racism and identity politics. Everyone's opinion is worth as much as the arguments they present backing it up.
Remember that the ACLU went to court for the Nazis so that they could march in Charlottesville.
Whoops.
Nah, freedom of speech is overrated. People need to be told when to shut the fuck up and go away.
Unfortunately depending on the state it could actually be counted as assault. It's stupid since no one gets hurt from it, just mildly inconvenienced, although I could understand if it was a hot drink but it wasn't. Garbage kids are lucky thats all the guy did.
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