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I just Watched The Last Jedi, why was it controversial??
- Thread starter konka
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Yes, but the price of the ship isn't presumably what makes the explosion bigger. Theres no reason they couldn't have strapped hyperspace drives to space junk and pointed them at the death star.
I came out of the movie enjoying it, but the more I sit on it the better I remember it. Rian Johnson made the movie he wanted to make and I'd much prefer that over pandering to fans that aren't going to be happy regardless.
Finn got seriously fucked over by Rian Johnson.
Finn was an awesome co-lead in TFA along with Rey, great team.
But LOL, Finn gets demoted and sent to Casino Land, WTF
Finn was an awesome co-lead in TFA along with Rey, great team.
But LOL, Finn gets demoted and sent to Casino Land, WTF
Dude, you are talking about a franchise that has had MULTIPLE poop jokes MULTIPLE fart jokes MULTIPLE burb jokes and you have your panties in a bunch about Poe trolling Hux?
Really?
REALLY???
Yeah TLJ really ruined Star Wars with its childish humor, in this super serious mature franchise.
Why would she tell him? A) She's much higher rank than he is, B) telling people increases the risk of their plans getting out, C) she's already paranoid because the First Order is tracking them and she has no idea how. You think she's going to trust anyone but the absolutely necessary people with any information in that scenario?
It's not a democracy, soldiers are supposed to follow orders.
Yeah, that's my primary issue with it.
It's the second film in a trilogy that is focused on tearing apart what was established in the first film. Granted, I didn't like Abrams rehashing so much stuff but I don't think Johnson's approach was the right response to that.
I don't mind the philosophy behind TLJ but it doesn't gel at all with what was established. Also, so much of the first ninety minutes or so felt either unnecessary or straight up terrible.
There is some really amazing stuff in the latter half of the film though, so I'm still excited to see what Johnson's trilogy ends up being. But I have really no faith in Kennedy's oversight after seeing TLJ.
It's also disappointing to see so much of the criticism for the film being hijacked by sexist and overly obsessed asshole nerds. This is a film with legitimate issues that should be explored and critiqued, but these fuckers would rather complain about more women being present.
Absolutely gorgeous film though. I'm not sure if I'd watch the whole film again any time soon, but I'm probably gonna have to give the silent sequence and the Crait stuff another watch, at the very least.
Again, Rian Johnson consulted J.J. while writing TLJ as they had to look for and correct inconsistencies like Luke originally emanating lifting rocks at the end of TFA.
This will ofc go unaddressed as no person who genuinely argues that TLJ doesn't directly and succinctly follow the plot of TFA seemed to pay attention:
So where's the part in ESB where Vader kills the emperor?
I like how people say "Luke Head-canon" as if there isn't 30 years of novels showing him (and the others) to continue to be a hero after RotJ that all got dismissed so the characters either had regression or did a 180.
I would encourage everyone to read this article on TLJ, by the way - it's very well-argued and touches on a lot of the common criticisms of the film. It is long though, so settle in before you pull it up: http://observer.com/2018/07/film-crit-hulk-the-beautiful-ugly-and-possessive-hearts-of-star-wars/
You mean the cannon where Luke literally fell to the dark side more than once?
And I'm not seeing regression in his character.
I only saw it a week ago and thought it was fine. Only part that raised an eyebrow for me was Leia using force powers, because I had no idea she could.
I'm not a massive star wars fan though.
I'm not a massive star wars fan though.
I think people forget that the relationship that we as the audience have with Poe is *not* the relationship that Holdo has with Poe.
It's her relationship with Poe that guides her handling of him. Just because she just appeared in the series doesn't mean she was previously in the audience with you before stepping through the silver screen. I feel like many people missed that her perspective is radically different, and for a bunch of very clear reasons.
It's her relationship with Poe that guides her handling of him. Just because she just appeared in the series doesn't mean she was previously in the audience with you before stepping through the silver screen. I feel like many people missed that her perspective is radically different, and for a bunch of very clear reasons.
I've seen it multiple times on Blu-Ray since it came out. It's still great.
I even specifically went in looking for all the complaints that people talking about and trying to understand where they're coming from. Aside from a couple relatively minor elements, I still don't get what the huge problem is. The movie is well shot, paced appropriately most of the time, the narrative as a whole makes complete sense logically and all the various events have a clear dramatic and thematic thrust that drive the entire film from beginning to end. Structurally there's very little wrong with the movie and it's thematically consistent.
Beyond all that is just subjective "I don't like the story that was told" which, well, you do you. Everyone has an opinion after all.
A metric fuckton of those stories were terrible followups for the character. Like Luke's evil clone named Luuke:
His edgy descendent who took drugs so that Luke couldn't contact him as a force ghost, also joined the darkside:
Luke joining the darkside and serving a clone of palpatine:
Yeah, she has the force. She force skypes multiple times in the OT.
Star Wars has always been about specific jedi powers and long training sessions. The lack of both pissed a ton of people, who pissed off the people who liked it and now its a never ending circle of rage.
I'll always love the Vong storyline tho, i couldn't give a fuck what anyone thinks.
Ah OK... :p
Haven't seen the OT in like 10 years so things are quite hazy.
I find that those that claim that it's a clone of the OT tend to boil events down to absolute meaninglessness.
The movie is set in space and it has Jedi and lightsabers and light speed, it's such a blatant clone it's ridiculous.
Vader does not kill his master because he wants to take over. The moment when Vader tries to lure Luke to the dark side in the promise that they'll rule as Father and Son is before that. He flips at the end, but there's no reason to believe he thinks he would survive the attack, and obviously, he doesn't. At the end he says that Luke was right about him, which we're meant to take at face value. If it was an attempt at a coup, as is the case with Ren, it would make the ending of the film a blatant lie, which isn't the case.
They both have a charcater named Luke Skywalker.
Clearly they are the same.
Should be known that my post was sarcastically mocking the idea of the film being a clone. There are obvious parallels with a clear intent as one of the themes is the idea of history repeating itself, but it's not a "clone."
You see those little attachments right in front of the polearm blade? Do you remember them lighting up and making womp womp sounds?
Here is what I wrote again. I will bold the key part just to help you out:
It's just a silly way to nitpick the movie. Yes, technically outside of the flashback 'no lightsaber touches another one' but you still have an entire battle
based around lightsabers and similarly powered weapons. 99% of the audience wouldn't notice the difference.
And when you do decide on an ending too early, that ending can be tonally dissonant with the later work you create...example:
Having guidelines for a story and writing a poorly written ending at the start are totally different things. The concept for the end of Harry Potter is fine, the execution is terrible though since Rowling's early writing is so much worse.
TFA and TLJ are consistent films with consistent character arcs regardless of them not having a strict guideline.
For all these GOD DAMN REASONS!!!!!!
Luke was a pussy and couldn't even have the balls to show up to fight in person?? (This wasn't the Luke who wanted to save Han and Leia from Empire, sacrificing his own body to do so).
The Chewbacca I grew up with would of bit the FUCKING face off that damn space penguin!
Kylo Ren could of force stopped the missiles from hitting the rebel ship and could have saved his mother.
The slow ass turtle pooping "we have a star destroyer" and these puny rebels will eventually just run out of gas, slow ass thoughtless chase scene from STARWARS the film franchise that invented "LIGHT SPEED" was just the dumbest shit I've ever had the displeasure to sit through.
Force Awakens; here meet all these new characters...good, ya got em in your memory? Okay here is the next movie where they do stuff together cause their chemistry mostly worked in the Force Awekens. Oh wait, let's not have them act together in this movie at all....maybe 4 minutes.....REALLY?
The backstory for Luke an Kylo Ren is SHIT! Really this goofy ass dumbshit is supposed to be the son of this guy?
And this girl?
And we get?!!! This dumbass! Seriously this guy even remotly attractive ladies? He's an awesome person in real-life and I like him as an actor, but I just can't take him seriously as the son of Han and Leia. The casting is just so wrong, and as a love interest? REALLY for Daisy Ridley? Sorry peeps...can't make that jump to lightspeed.
So Luke just senses some evil in this boy and decides to take him out...that's it? So lazy Hollywood.
The better backstory would of been to have cast a "pretty boy" heartthrob so to speak. someone who was like River Phoenix from The Last Crusade, or Leo from Titanic. Someone who actually looked like the son of these two gorgeous Hollywood starlets. The setup could of been SO MUCH better if they had that person play Kylo Ren; he grows up a little spoiled being who he is, and gets a bit of an ego due to his good looks and Jedi abilities/powers because of his bloodline and training by his uncle master Jedi Luke. Then an accident happens...an unfortunate Jedi training mishap that melts part of his face (lightsaber malfunction) Kylo Ren ignores Luke's instruction and destroys his good looks and he thinks Luke is to blame, he can't deal with his disfigurement and how he lost his status.....and not only turns to the darkside and against anything to do with his former family, but WHA????? My grandfather wore a mask? Well maybe I can to.
Let's build up Rey's backstory...who are her parents? Who is emperor Snoke? Guess what Star Wars fans...NONE OF IT MATTERS! Fuck you and the ton-ton you rode in on.
Freakin' Lucasfilm/disney....why can't they do something GREAT with the new series? Why is it this current, unoriginal (force awakens was just a re-hash of a new hope), or the alternative un-inspired plot numbing, camel space chase shit. UGH. I'm glad it's all tanking and hopefully we can get some new blood over at Lucasfilm/Disney to try and save this amazing franchise...what utter shit. Not meeessa, bomba binks bad, but pretty GOD DAMN close.
/rant.
Luke was a pussy and couldn't even have the balls to show up to fight in person?? (This wasn't the Luke who wanted to save Han and Leia from Empire, sacrificing his own body to do so).
The Chewbacca I grew up with would of bit the FUCKING face off that damn space penguin!
Kylo Ren could of force stopped the missiles from hitting the rebel ship and could have saved his mother.
The slow ass turtle pooping "we have a star destroyer" and these puny rebels will eventually just run out of gas, slow ass thoughtless chase scene from STARWARS the film franchise that invented "LIGHT SPEED" was just the dumbest shit I've ever had the displeasure to sit through.
Force Awakens; here meet all these new characters...good, ya got em in your memory? Okay here is the next movie where they do stuff together cause their chemistry mostly worked in the Force Awekens. Oh wait, let's not have them act together in this movie at all....maybe 4 minutes.....REALLY?
The backstory for Luke an Kylo Ren is SHIT! Really this goofy ass dumbshit is supposed to be the son of this guy?
And this girl?
And we get?!!! This dumbass! Seriously this guy even remotly attractive ladies? He's an awesome person in real-life and I like him as an actor, but I just can't take him seriously as the son of Han and Leia. The casting is just so wrong, and as a love interest? REALLY for Daisy Ridley? Sorry peeps...can't make that jump to lightspeed.
So Luke just senses some evil in this boy and decides to take him out...that's it? So lazy Hollywood.
The better backstory would of been to have cast a "pretty boy" heartthrob so to speak. someone who was like River Phoenix from The Last Crusade, or Leo from Titanic. Someone who actually looked like the son of these two gorgeous Hollywood starlets. The setup could of been SO MUCH better if they had that person play Kylo Ren; he grows up a little spoiled being who he is, and gets a bit of an ego due to his good looks and Jedi abilities/powers because of his bloodline and training by his uncle master Jedi Luke. Then an accident happens...an unfortunate Jedi training mishap that melts part of his face (lightsaber malfunction) Kylo Ren ignores Luke's instruction and destroys his good looks and he thinks Luke is to blame, he can't deal with his disfigurement and how he lost his status.....and not only turns to the darkside and against anything to do with his former family, but WHA????? My grandfather wore a mask? Well maybe I can to.
Let's build up Rey's backstory...who are her parents? Who is emperor Snoke? Guess what Star Wars fans...NONE OF IT MATTERS! Fuck you and the ton-ton you rode in on.
Freakin' Lucasfilm/disney....why can't they do something GREAT with the new series? Why is it this current, unoriginal (force awakens was just a re-hash of a new hope), or the alternative un-inspired plot numbing, camel space chase shit. UGH. I'm glad it's all tanking and hopefully we can get some new blood over at Lucasfilm/Disney to try and save this amazing franchise...what utter shit. Not meeessa, bomba binks bad, but pretty GOD DAMN close.
/rant.
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I honestly can't tell if this is satire or not.For all these GOD DAMN REASONS!!!!!!
Luke was a pussy and could even show up to fight in person (This wasn't the Luke who wanted to save Han and Leia from Empire)
The Chewbacca I grew up with would of bite the FUCKING head off that damn space penguin!
Kylo Ren could of stopped the missiles from hitting the rebel ship and could have saved his mother.
The slow ass we have a star destroyer and these puny rebels will eventually just run out of gas, slow ass chase scene from STARWARS the film franchise that invented "LIGHT SPEED" was just the dumbest shit I've ever had to sit through.
Force Awakens, here meet all these new characters...good, ya got em in your memory? Okay here is the next movie where they do stuff together cause their chemistry mostly worked. Oh wait, let's not have them act together in this movie at all....maybe 4 minutes.
The backstory for Luke an Kylo Ren is SHIT! Really this goofy ass dumbshit is supposed to be the son of this guy?
And this girl?
And we get?!!! This dumbass! Seriously this guy even remotly attractive ladies? He's an awesome person in real-life and I like him as an actor, but I just can't take him seriously as the son of Han and Leia. The casting is just so wrong, and as a love interest? REALLY for Daisy Ridley? Sorry peeps...can't make that jump to lightspeed.
So Luke just senses some evil in this boy and decides to take him out...that's it? So lazy Hollywood.
The better backstory would of been to have cast a "pretty boy" heartthrob so to speak. someone who was like River Phoenix from The Last Crusade, or Leo from Titanic. Someone who actually looked like the son of these two gorgeous Hollywood starlets. The setup could of been SO MUCH better if they had that person play Kylo Ren; he grows up a little spoiled being who he is, and gets a bit of an ego due to his good looks and Jedi abilities/powers because of his bloodline and training by his uncle master Jedi Luke. Then an accident happens...an unfortunate Jedi training mishap that melts part of his face (lightsaber malfunction) Kylo Ren ignores Luke's instruction and destroys his good looks and he thinks Luke is to blame, he can't deal with his disfigurement and how he lost his status.....and not only turns to the darkside and against anything to do with his former family, but WHA????? My grandfather wore a mask? Well maybe I can to.
Freakin' Lucasfilm/disney....why can't they do something GREAT with the new series? Why is it this current, unoriginal (force awakens was just a re-hash of a new hope), or the alternative un-inspired plot numbing, camel space chase shit. UGH. I'm glad it's all tanking and hopefully we can get some new blood over at Lucasfilm/Disney to try and save this amazing franchise...what utter shit. Not meeessa, bomba binks bad, but pretty GOD DAMN close.
/rant.
Another Last Jedi thread, same bullshit.
Some people simply didn't like it. Just like anything else. I will never understand why the people that do like it have decided they need to create a narrative for those who didn't.
I had no issues with Luke being this totally depressed and defeated figure. Thank fuck Rey wasn't a Skywalker or Kenobi. Don't give a fuck about where Snoke came from. I still didn't like the movie.
Every movie that has ever existed has had people not like it.
For all these GOD DAMN REASONS!!!!!!
Luke was a pussy and could even show up to fight in person (This wasn't the Luke who wanted to save Han and Leia from Empire)
The Chewbacca I grew up with would of bite the FUCKING head off that damn space penguin!
Kylo Ren could of stopped the missiles from hitting the rebel ship and could have saved his mother.
The slow ass we have a star destroyer and these puny rebels will eventually just run out of gas, slow ass chase scene from STARWARS the film franchise that invented "LIGHT SPEED" was just the dumbest shit I've ever had to sit through.
Force Awakens, here meet all these new characters...good, ya got em in your memory? Okay here is the next movie where they do stuff together cause their chemistry mostly worked. Oh wait, let's not have them act together in this movie at all....maybe 4 minutes.
The backstory for Luke an Kylo Ren is SHIT! Really this goofy ass dumbshit is supposed to be the son of this guy?
And this girl?
And we get?!!! This dumbass! Seriously this guy even remotly attractive ladies? He's an awesome person in real-life and I like him as an actor, but I just can't take him seriously as the son of Han and Leia. The casting is just so wrong, and as a love interest? REALLY for Daisy Ridley? Sorry peeps...can't make that jump to lightspeed.
So Luke just senses some evil in this boy and decides to take him out...that's it? So lazy Hollywood.
The better backstory would of been to have cast a "pretty boy" heartthrob so to speak. someone who was like River Phoenix from The Last Crusade, or Leo from Titanic. Someone who actually looked like the son of these two gorgeous Hollywood starlets. The setup could of been SO MUCH better if they had that person play Kylo Ren; he grows up a little spoiled being who he is, and gets a bit of an ego due to his good looks and Jedi abilities/powers because of his bloodline and training by his uncle master Jedi Luke. Then an accident happens...an unfortunate Jedi training mishap that melts part of his face (lightsaber malfunction) Kylo Ren ignores Luke's instruction and destroys his good looks and he thinks Luke is to blame, he can't deal with his disfigurement and how he lost his status.....and not only turns to the darkside and against anything to do with his former family, but WHA????? My grandfather wore a mask? Well maybe I can to.
Freakin' Lucasfilm/disney....why can't they do something GREAT with the new series? Why is it this current, unoriginal (force awakens was just a re-hash of a new hope), or the alternative un-inspired plot numbing, camel space chase shit. UGH. I'm glad it's all tanking and hopefully we can get some new blood over at Lucasfilm/Disney to try and save this amazing franchise...what utter shit. Not meeessa, bomba binks bad, but pretty GOD DAMN close.
/rant.
Yes Kylo is very hot. TLJ actually made me drop my Poe crush and acquire the Kylo crush.
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For all these GOD DAMN REASONS!!!!!!
Luke was a pussy and could even show up to fight in person (This wasn't the Luke who wanted to save Han and Leia from Empire)
The Chewbacca I grew up with would of bite the FUCKING head off that damn space penguin!
Kylo Ren could of stopped the missiles from hitting the rebel ship and could have saved his mother.
The slow ass we have a star destroyer and these puny rebels will eventually just run out of gas, slow ass chase scene from STARWARS the film franchise that invented "LIGHT SPEED" was just the dumbest shit I've ever had to sit through.
Force Awakens, here meet all these new characters...good, ya got em in your memory? Okay here is the next movie where they do stuff together cause their chemistry mostly worked. Oh wait, let's not have them act together in this movie at all....maybe 4 minutes.
The backstory for Luke an Kylo Ren is SHIT! Really this goofy ass dumbshit is supposed to be the son of this guy?
And this girl?
And we get?!!! This dumbass! Seriously this guy even remotly attractive ladies? He's an awesome person in real-life and I like him as an actor, but I just can't take him seriously as the son of Han and Leia. The casting is just so wrong, and as a love interest? REALLY for Daisy Ridley? Sorry peeps...can't make that jump to lightspeed.
So Luke just senses some evil in this boy and decides to take him out...that's it? So lazy Hollywood.
The better backstory would of been to have cast a "pretty boy" heartthrob so to speak. someone who was like River Phoenix from The Last Crusade, or Leo from Titanic. Someone who actually looked like the son of these two gorgeous Hollywood starlets. The setup could of been SO MUCH better if they had that person play Kylo Ren; he grows up a little spoiled being who he is, and gets a bit of an ego due to his good looks and Jedi abilities/powers because of his bloodline and training by his uncle master Jedi Luke. Then an accident happens...an unfortunate Jedi training mishap that melts part of his face (lightsaber malfunction) Kylo Ren ignores Luke's instruction and destroys his good looks and he thinks Luke is to blame, he can't deal with his disfigurement and how he lost his status.....and not only turns to the darkside and against anything to do with his former family, but WHA????? My grandfather wore a mask? Well maybe I can to.
Freakin' Lucasfilm/disney....why can't they do something GREAT with the new series? Why is it this current, unoriginal (force awakens was just a re-hash of a new hope), or the alternative un-inspired plot numbing, camel space chase shit. UGH. I'm glad it's all tanking and hopefully we can get some new blood over at Lucasfilm/Disney to try and save this amazing franchise...what utter shit. Not meeessa, bomba binks bad, but pretty GOD DAMN close.
/rant.
So which reddit post did you copy this from?
For all these GOD DAMN REASONS!!!!!!
Luke was a pussy and could even show up to fight in person (This wasn't the Luke who wanted to save Han and Leia from Empire)
The Chewbacca I grew up with would of bite the FUCKING head off that damn space penguin!
Kylo Ren could of stopped the missiles from hitting the rebel ship and could have saved his mother.
The slow ass we have a star destroyer and these puny rebels will eventually just run out of gas, slow ass chase scene from STARWARS the film franchise that invented "LIGHT SPEED" was just the dumbest shit I've ever had to sit through.
Force Awakens, here meet all these new characters...good, ya got em in your memory? Okay here is the next movie where they do stuff together cause their chemistry mostly worked. Oh wait, let's not have them act together in this movie at all....maybe 4 minutes.
The backstory for Luke an Kylo Ren is SHIT! Really this goofy ass dumbshit is supposed to be the son of this guy?
And this girl?
And we get?!!! This dumbass! Seriously this guy even remotly attractive ladies? He's an awesome person in real-life and I like him as an actor, but I just can't take him seriously as the son of Han and Leia. The casting is just so wrong, and as a love interest? REALLY for Daisy Ridley? Sorry peeps...can't make that jump to lightspeed.
So Luke just senses some evil in this boy and decides to take him out...that's it? So lazy Hollywood.
The better backstory would of been to have cast a "pretty boy" heartthrob so to speak. someone who was like River Phoenix from The Last Crusade, or Leo from Titanic. Someone who actually looked like the son of these two gorgeous Hollywood starlets. The setup could of been SO MUCH better if they had that person play Kylo Ren; he grows up a little spoiled being who he is, and gets a bit of an ego due to his good looks and Jedi abilities/powers because of his bloodline and training by his uncle master Jedi Luke. Then an accident happens...an unfortunate Jedi training mishap that melts part of his face (lightsaber malfunction) Kylo Ren ignores Luke's instruction and destroys his good looks and he thinks Luke is to blame, he can't deal with his disfigurement and how he lost his status.....and not only turns to the darkside and against anything to do with his former family, but WHA????? My grandfather wore a mask? Well maybe I can to.
Freakin' Lucasfilm/disney....why can't they do something GREAT with the new series? Why is it this current, unoriginal (force awakens was just a re-hash of a new hope), or the alternative un-inspired plot numbing, camel space chase shit. UGH. I'm glad it's all tanking and hopefully we can get some new blood over at Lucasfilm/Disney to try and save this amazing franchise...what utter shit. Not meeessa, bomba binks bad, but pretty GOD DAMN close.
/rant.
Ben Swolo is a heartthtrob your arguments are invalid.
God I hope that's a copypasta because if not that above is a perfect example of why people don't take TLJ critics seriously. Kylo isn't attractive enough and his story should've been about disfigurement...good grief.
For all these GOD DAMN REASONS!!!!!!
Luke was a pussy and could even show up to fight in person (This wasn't the Luke who wanted to save Han and Leia from Empire)
The Chewbacca I grew up with would of bite the FUCKING head off that damn space penguin!
Kylo Ren could of stopped the missiles from hitting the rebel ship and could have saved his mother.
The slow ass we have a star destroyer and these puny rebels will eventually just run out of gas, slow ass chase scene from STARWARS the film franchise that invented "LIGHT SPEED" was just the dumbest shit I've ever had to sit through.
Force Awakens, here meet all these new characters...good, ya got em in your memory? Okay here is the next movie where they do stuff together cause their chemistry mostly worked. Oh wait, let's not have them act together in this movie at all....maybe 4 minutes.
The backstory for Luke an Kylo Ren is SHIT! Really this goofy ass dumbshit is supposed to be the son of this guy?
And this girl?
And we get?!!! This dumbass! Seriously this guy even remotly attractive ladies? He's an awesome person in real-life and I like him as an actor, but I just can't take him seriously as the son of Han and Leia. The casting is just so wrong, and as a love interest? REALLY for Daisy Ridley? Sorry peeps...can't make that jump to lightspeed.
So Luke just senses some evil in this boy and decides to take him out...that's it? So lazy Hollywood.
The better backstory would of been to have cast a "pretty boy" heartthrob so to speak. someone who was like River Phoenix from The Last Crusade, or Leo from Titanic. Someone who actually looked like the son of these two gorgeous Hollywood starlets. The setup could of been SO MUCH better if they had that person play Kylo Ren; he grows up a little spoiled being who he is, and gets a bit of an ego due to his good looks and Jedi abilities/powers because of his bloodline and training by his uncle master Jedi Luke. Then an accident happens...an unfortunate Jedi training mishap that melts part of his face (lightsaber malfunction) Kylo Ren ignores Luke's instruction and destroys his good looks and he thinks Luke is to blame, he can't deal with his disfigurement and how he lost his status.....and not only turns to the darkside and against anything to do with his former family, but WHA????? My grandfather wore a mask? Well maybe I can to.
Freakin' Lucasfilm/disney....why can't they do something GREAT with the new series? Why is it this current, unoriginal (force awakens was just a re-hash of a new hope), or the alternative un-inspired plot numbing, camel space chase shit. UGH. I'm glad it's all tanking and hopefully we can get some new blood over at Lucasfilm/Disney to try and save this amazing franchise...what utter shit. Not meeessa, bomba binks bad, but pretty GOD DAMN close.
/rant.
O. O Harrison Ford is a starlet?
And honestly, I have a ton of issues with these movies but I think Kylo Ren is great. Easily the best new character.
Edit: oh, is this copy pasta? Lmao my bad
For all these GOD DAMN REASONS!!!!!!
Luke was a pussy and couldn't even have the balls to show up to fight in person?? (This wasn't the Luke who wanted to save Han and Leia from Empire, sacrificing his own body to do so).
The Chewbacca I grew up with would of bit the FUCKING face off that damn space penguin!
Kylo Ren could of force stopped the missiles from hitting the rebel ship and could have saved his mother.
The slow ass turtle pooping "we have a star destroyer" and these puny rebels will eventually just run out of gas, slow ass thoughtless chase scene from STARWARS the film franchise that invented "LIGHT SPEED" was just the dumbest shit I've ever had the displeasure to sit through.
Force Awakens; here meet all these new characters...good, ya got em in your memory? Okay here is the next movie where they do stuff together cause their chemistry mostly worked in the Force Awekens. Oh wait, let's not have them act together in this movie at all....maybe 4 minutes.....REALLY?
The backstory for Luke an Kylo Ren is SHIT! Really this goofy ass dumbshit is supposed to be the son of this guy?
And this girl?
And we get?!!! This dumbass! Seriously this guy even remotly attractive ladies? He's an awesome person in real-life and I like him as an actor, but I just can't take him seriously as the son of Han and Leia. The casting is just so wrong, and as a love interest? REALLY for Daisy Ridley? Sorry peeps...can't make that jump to lightspeed.
So Luke just senses some evil in this boy and decides to take him out...that's it? So lazy Hollywood.
The better backstory would of been to have cast a "pretty boy" heartthrob so to speak. someone who was like River Phoenix from The Last Crusade, or Leo from Titanic. Someone who actually looked like the son of these two gorgeous Hollywood starlets. The setup could of been SO MUCH better if they had that person play Kylo Ren; he grows up a little spoiled being who he is, and gets a bit of an ego due to his good looks and Jedi abilities/powers because of his bloodline and training by his uncle master Jedi Luke. Then an accident happens...an unfortunate Jedi training mishap that melts part of his face (lightsaber malfunction) Kylo Ren ignores Luke's instruction and destroys his good looks and he thinks Luke is to blame, he can't deal with his disfigurement and how he lost his status.....and not only turns to the darkside and against anything to do with his former family, but WHA????? My grandfather wore a mask? Well maybe I can to.
Let's build up Rey's backstory...who are her parents? Who is emperor Snoke? Guess what Star Wars fans...NONE OF IT MATTERS! Fuck you and the ton-ton you rode in on.
Freakin' Lucasfilm/disney....why can't they do something GREAT with the new series? Why is it this current, unoriginal (force awakens was just a re-hash of a new hope), or the alternative un-inspired plot numbing, camel space chase shit. UGH. I'm glad it's all tanking and hopefully we can get some new blood over at Lucasfilm/Disney to try and save this amazing franchise...what utter shit. Not meeessa, bomba binks bad, but pretty GOD DAMN close.
/rant.
My goodness, you are really obsessed with Kylo Ren not being hot and wanting the villian to have his origin story be all about....how hot he is? You sound like a crazy person to be honest so I hope this was a joke post.
BTW a lot of women think Kylo is hot. Like a TON of them.
It sort of reminds me of Matrix reloaded tbh. In regards to mainstream reception, fan backlash and how I guess I understood why a lot of people didn't like it but the spefic reasons as to why it sucks didnt really make sense to me
Like the dance scene in Reloaded made people lose their fucking minds for some reason.
I think it sort of sits in that space where after watching it a lot of people just sort of had this empty unfulfillment walking out and tried to point to certain issues being the problem where as it's just more so the movie it's self in general.
Like some of the sub plots logicistal problems and how so many people bitched about the plot holes in them. Really if people were engaged in the movie those sorts of small issues wouldn't have mattered.
Really the lack of direction and where this is going is really getting to some people and making them lose interest. Where as others were more so able to ignore that and take the movie for what it was. I think most agree, even those who liked the film that it does sort of chuck a lot of the first movie out and for those who liked the first that can be pretty frustrating. But not everybody cares about how this fits into a grand trilogy
I'm sort of in camp "meh". I thought it was good enough. And I liked it ok I guess; but I kind of waver on my personal feelings a lot. (Went from liking, to hating, to falling back in the middle a bit after thinking about it and rewatching). But after all that I'm not really excited to see how this trilogy ends. I'm not counting the days till the next one. More so want to see what Johnson will do with a trilogy and actually make a complete story instead of a movie that sort of feels like a placeholder even if it's good on its own.
Like the dance scene in Reloaded made people lose their fucking minds for some reason.
I think it sort of sits in that space where after watching it a lot of people just sort of had this empty unfulfillment walking out and tried to point to certain issues being the problem where as it's just more so the movie it's self in general.
Like some of the sub plots logicistal problems and how so many people bitched about the plot holes in them. Really if people were engaged in the movie those sorts of small issues wouldn't have mattered.
Really the lack of direction and where this is going is really getting to some people and making them lose interest. Where as others were more so able to ignore that and take the movie for what it was. I think most agree, even those who liked the film that it does sort of chuck a lot of the first movie out and for those who liked the first that can be pretty frustrating. But not everybody cares about how this fits into a grand trilogy
I'm sort of in camp "meh". I thought it was good enough. And I liked it ok I guess; but I kind of waver on my personal feelings a lot. (Went from liking, to hating, to falling back in the middle a bit after thinking about it and rewatching). But after all that I'm not really excited to see how this trilogy ends. I'm not counting the days till the next one. More so want to see what Johnson will do with a trilogy and actually make a complete story instead of a movie that sort of feels like a placeholder even if it's good on its own.
I thought it was twenty minutes too long and was missing one more lightsaber action sequence. I'm ok with everything else in the film I just wish they went about it quicker and gave me one extra sick ass fight like the throne room one.