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Rellyrell28

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
28,987
Okay Okay now that I'm back home and had time to process that mid credit scene this movie was awesome as expected. One thing I really really loved about the movie was Ghost's effects throughout the movie. It help drive home the point that he condition was gonna get worse until completely unstablized but the effect were awesome just watching when she was on screen. Also poor Janet. After 30 years in the Quantum realm you get out only to get snapped out of existence.
 
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Arta

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,445
Even though I had an idea that someone would get dusted (thought it would have been the daughter), it's easy to forget that most of the audience aren't follow movies with the rest of us geeks. Cause everyone lost their shit when Wasp and crew evaporated. It's like the movie took them on a fun ride for so long they forgot that it would have to tie back in Infinity War somehow. It gives Thanos' actions even more weight as it affects characters in movies he's not even in!

Overall I though the movie was ok. Walter Goggins' whole plot took away a lot from everyone else, Ghost only reached Hela levels of character development when they could have gone further, the movie wasn't as funny as the first, and I wished the Wasp had more to do considering she's a costar. Still not a bad way to spend a couple hours on a weekend if you're completing the Marvel puzzle.
 

Rellyrell28

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
28,987
It's like the movie took them on a fun ride for so long they forgot that it would have to tie back in Infinity War somehow
Seriously was having so much fun enjoying the movie then the credits rolled and I'm like "Oh shit I forget something bad's going to happen" I didn't expect that shit. Like how is he gonna get out. Man can Avenger's 4 come out already
 

cake

Member
Oct 25, 2017
566
I really liked it. It didn't flow well at times, but it's really funny and touching in parts (Scott and Cassie are great together) and the action mostly worked (though nothing really raising the bar compared to the first one). Keeping Ghost and Bill as antagonists but not evil was a welcome change (no heel turn), they were great. I laughed a bit reading the credits since apparently Young Bill was played by Laurence Fishburne's son, since I remember thinking "damn that reversed aging is really good". Not as much Janet as anyone would want, but I really hope we get some small chat between her and Dr Strange at some point about the Quantum Realm.

And yeah, the mid-credits scene was definitely a gut punch. It didn't linger, but my audience still gasped at it, so I guess Marvel did something right, that even months after IW released it's still got that strong effect. And in the post-credits one, the emergency tone playing to the emptiness was well done (I'd heard about that scene beforehand, the ant playing drums, but this was tonally really different than I expected with it).
 

Lwyn

Banned for use of an alt-account
Banned
Jul 2, 2018
168
It feels like America has slept on the release of AATW.
 

Stooge

Member
Oct 29, 2017
11,262
Wow. What a nothingburger of a movie . The only parts that were really funny was Paul Rudd and Randall Park's scenes.

It wasn't bad, it was just the definition of 'there'. No real heart, mostly misses on the humor... And I think making the wasp a legit badass undercut the absurdity the first movie leaner heavily into for laughs.

The heroes also had a scene where Ghost legit told her she is in constant pain because of an accident and will possibly die soon and their reaction was to fake a heart attack and nope out of there because they had their own thing they were more concerned about.

Just tonally all over the place too many "remember that funny bit from the last movie" jokes and super weird pacing.

I didn't hate it, but it feels like a movie that was rudderless (pun not intended).
 

Illusion

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,407
Even though I had an idea that someone would get dusted (thought it would have been the daughter), it's easy to forget that most of the audience aren't follow movies with the rest of us geeks. Cause everyone lost their shit when Wasp and crew evaporated. It's like the movie took them on a fun ride for so long they forgot that it would have to tie back in Infinity War somehow. It gives Thanos' actions even more weight as it affects characters in movies he's not even in!

Overall I though the movie was ok. Walter Goggins' whole plot took away a lot from everyone else, Ghost only reached Hela levels of character development when they could have gone further, the movie wasn't as funny as the first, and I wished the Wasp had more to do considering she's a costar. Still not a bad way to spend a couple hours on a weekend if you're completing the Marvel puzzle.
To be fair though her mother was also the wasp and played a significant role.

But I agree there was too much focus on Ant-Man but to be fair, we haven't seen him since Civil War, and him being put in jail needed to flesh out his story so i understand his position.

But now with Ghost (and potentially Goliath) in the picture (not to mention Pym's Wife getting freaky powers) it seems more and more to me that they are establishing their own team.
 

lazybones18

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,339
See? The bad guy didn't die! Marvel listens!

Too bad about Hank, Janet and Hope though. Scott is totally fucked. And they were clever putting the post-credits scene in the trailers. People at my showing were disappointed but I laughed
 

echoshifting

very salt heavy
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
14,767
The Negative Zone
I don't think I have ever heard an audience collectively gasp quite like that before. And it's because of something everyone saw happen in another movie. It is crazy to me what Marvel has built here. It will never stop being crazy.
 
Oct 27, 2017
319
Vancouver
So the Ant-Man timeline is:

July 2014 - Events of Ant-Man 1
Scott and Hank work on the Ant-Man suit during this time?
June 2016 - Scott joins Captain America in Germany and is sent to the Raft, is freed by Captain America and then takes a plea deal to remain under house arrest
Scott's under house arrest. Hope and Hank on the run from the government.
June/July 2018 - Events of Ant-Man and the Wasp (days before two years of house arrest are up) take place over a day(?)
At least a week or so must go by from the end of AMatW to the end of Infinity War, we see Hank and Janet on the beach setting up their new house and then return for this new mission which required building this new smaller tunnel
Summer 2018 (couldn't find an exact time online) - Main events of Infinity War (over 24/48 hours?)
Summer 2018 + 24/48 hours - Ant-Man and the Wasp mid-credits scene

Is that right?
 
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Phendrift

Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,311
Just saw this, it was great! Liked it a lot more than the first one. Warmed my heart when the mom healed Ghost. Hope to see more of her.

And whew, that mid credits scene!
 

ZattMurdock

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
10,333
Earth 616
They set up the S6 in the first spiderman movie.

We're already gonna have 3/6 by 2019.
LMFAO huh... no? Marvel Studios Vulture won't show up on a Venom outside the MCU film. Also, the probability of Venom bombing is high. Not sure what you think you are on to, but nope.

I don't think I have ever heard an audience collectively gasp quite like that before. And it's because of something everyone saw happen in another movie. It is crazy to me what Marvel has built here. It will never stop being crazy.

THIS. Two viewings and audiences went apeshit two times. Absolutely fucking nuts.
 

Mario_Bones

Member
Oct 31, 2017
3,522
Australia
LMFAO huh... no? Marvel Studios Vulture won't show up on a Venom outside the MCU film. Also, the probability of Venom bombing is high. Not sure what you think you are on to, but nope.
Vulture and pre-Scorpion Mac Gargan were in Homecoming, Mysterio is coming in Far From Home. That's 2, arguably 3. Wouldn't be surprised if another member gets teased in FFH just like Scorpion was.
 

gilded_Pb

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,197
This was just one of those "okay" movies. Some of the action was pretty good due to the nature of their powers and some of the jokes did make me smile. Probably better than the first one though.

Edit: I really wanted Janet to have survived the snap.
 

ZattMurdock

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
10,333
Earth 616
Vulture and pre-Scorpion Mac Gargan were in Homecoming, Mysterio is coming in Far From Home. That's 2, arguably 3. Wouldn't be surprised if another member gets teased in FFH just like Scorpion was.
Yeah but it's not happening before Thunderbolts. I honestly think Thunderbolts might be one of the first of the next wave of Marvel Studios films, and it'd make sense for Sony to let Vulture shine there, even if it's about selling a Sinister Six film later.
 

Jtrizzy

Member
Nov 13, 2017
621
Mid and post credit scenes were amazing. They dusted the feel good family reunion. People in my theatre were visibly distressed waiting for the post credit scene.
 

Mr. Fantastic

Alt-account
Banned
Apr 27, 2018
3,189
Just left the cinema, what a fun change of pace from world-leading shenanigans.

Dat snap tho, all three Pym's dusted. Fucking ruthless. Poor Cassie, she's gonna think her dad is another Thanos' casualty.
 

Feep

Lead Designer, Iridium Studios
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
4,603
Pretty weak entry, IMO. I definitely enjoyed some of the humor (the "truth serum" sequence was pretty great), but the pacing was weird, the villain back to early/mid Marvel levels of undeveloped, and man, I have a *pretty* high tolerance for pseudo-science nonsense but they just went all the fucking way with this movie.

Mid-credits was cool, if not entirely shocking. It's a little weird to me that some goddamn aliens started fucking up New York, and the Pym's didn't hear about it, or decided to go ahead with their non-urgent plan anyway?

"Quantum Healing Particles!"

Okay.

Anyway, Scott + Cassie were the best scenes.
 

TheHunter

Bold Bur3n Wrangler
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
25,774
Yeah but it's not happening before Thunderbolts. I honestly think Thunderbolts might be one of the first of the next wave of Marvel Studios films, and it'd make sense for Sony to let Vulture shine there, even if it's about selling a Sinister Six film later.
We've had like zero hints at the thunderbolts whereas we've already gotten quite a few sinister 6 hints.

Like what are you on?
 

Deleted member 5853

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,725
So the Ant-Man timeline is:

July 2014 - Events of Ant-Man 1
Scott and Hank work on the Ant-Man suit during this time?
June 2016 - Scott joins Captain America in Germany and is sent to the Raft, is freed by Captain America and then takes a plea deal to remain under house arrest
Scott's under house arrest. Hope and Hank on the run from the government.
June/July 2018 - Events of Ant-Man and the Wasp (days before two years of house arrest are up) take place over a day(?)
At least a week or so must go by from the end of AMatW to the end of Infinity War, we see Hank and Janet on the beach setting up their new house and then return for this new mission which required building this new smaller tunnel
Summer 2018 (couldn't find an exact time online) - Main events of Infinity War (over 24/48 hours?)
Summer 2018 + 24/48 hours - Ant-Man and the Wasp mid-credits scene

Is that right?
The events of "Ant-Man & The Wasp" take place at least over 3 days, I believe. Woo says something in the beginning about how Scott only has 3 days left on his sentence before his monitor can be removed. At this point, I don't think we're given any specific references to the year of the films, but in terms of relative time frames, the end-credits scene is the furthest point in the timeline as of yet. We can presume the mid-credits scene is happening parallel to the events in Wakanda and Titan. I'd even go so far as to say all the scenes in the film take place the same week as "Infinity War", but that's more personal conjecture than anything.
 

Cpt-GargameL

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
7,024
Just got home from watching it at AMC Dolby, it was a 11:45pm showing, a lot of empty seats but the previous showtimes were pretty much sold out.

I enjoyed the movie. Personally, I enjoyed it more than the first. Im wondering, how the fuck is he going to get out of the quantum realm?
 

echoshifting

very salt heavy
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
14,767
The Negative Zone
They are absolutely going for S6.

I guess I could see an outside chance of Thunderbolts with Ghost, that would be cool. But there hasn't been any setup for it. They aren't gonna use the Vulture. Really there's potentially already four of them - Vulture, Scorpion, Shocker, Mysterio - established or announced. Even if you ignore the prison scene with Vulture and Gargan it's still obvious they're going for it.
 

ZattMurdock

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
10,333
Earth 616
Give me some of whatever you're smoking if you think Thunderbolts is more likely than the S6. Scorpion and Vulture hooking up in prison is absolutely a tease.
I honestly do not think so. And even if it was, there's a pattern going on in the third phase that is the "redeemable villain": both Vulture and Ghost are like this.

Let's say that the government ends up giving Zemo a version of the supersoldier serum and we get a Thunderbolts:

Zemo
Vulture
Ghost

That's one hell of a great skeleton of a team. I honestly feel that I'm into something here, it might be the wine but hey.
 

TheHunter

Bold Bur3n Wrangler
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
25,774
I honestly do not think so. And even if it was, there's a pattern going on in the third phase that is the "redeemable villain": both Vulture and Ghost are like this.

Let's say that the government ends up giving Zemo a version of the supersoldier serum and we get a Thunderbolts:

Zemo
Vulture
Ghost

That's one hell of a great skeleton of a team. I honestly feel that I'm into something here, it might be the wine but hey.
It's the wine.
 

Wingfan19

Layout Designer
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
9,756
Bothell WA
I figured only Hank was gonna bite it, not the three of them. Trying to figure out how Wasp is gonna be in Avengers 4 now. I know Lilly said she's not in it a lot, so I guess that means it's just her "coming back" to life.
 

Zetaero

Member
Oct 28, 2017
192
The box office numbers isn't a problem, it's the lack of excitement.



Was it the same for BP?
Polar opposite. BP was like Avengers, everyone and they momma was in there. The only superhero movie I seen get the turn out like that. Feels bad because this movie was really fun.
 
Oct 27, 2017
11,514
Bandung Indonesia
The movie was kinda 'there', no real excitement whatsoever throughout. Kinda makes me wonder what were those journalists thinking when they said it's the best ever or whatever after the pre-screening.
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,989
Inland Empire
I loved it. Nice change of pace. 2018 Superhero Power Rankings.
1.Infinity War
2. Incredibles 2
3. Black Panther
4. Ant Man and the Wasp
5. Deadpool 2

Also dat Mid Credits scene and post credit scene. I knew about the ant but the the Emergency Broadcast system sure was omnious. And Marvel Trolling us with the "Ant-Man and the will Return? "
 

Feep

Lead Designer, Iridium Studios
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
4,603
Just got home from watching it at AMC Dolby, it was a 11:45pm showing, a lot of empty seats but the previous showtimes were pretty much sold out.

I enjoyed the movie. Personally, I enjoyed it more than the first. Im wondering, how the fuck is he going to get out of the quantum realm?
I mean, the first film just shows him shoving a common tool he uses into his belt and then he hits a button. That was always unsatisfying in the first film, and now it's very nearly a plot hole. The film barely included the red/blue discs (Wasp uses a few here and there), but certainly he has them, right?