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"Octopath Traveler has been developed as a spiritual successor of FFVI" Takahashi-san
- Thread starter Lelouch0612
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It's paintfully obvious that most painting is simply some paint scribbled on a canvas by a certain someone daft enough to spent a few hours on it right? How much could it possibly cost? The paint and the canvas? I will give the painter the minimum wages just to put things into perspective?
If value of a thing can be reduce to its simple component the world would be a much simpler place.
Where do people come up with these replies.
a game isnt a single exclusive copy of software that you bid on. what are these comparisons even.
I dont give a shit about how much you value this piece of art but if it had 2 million copies in the market all costing as much as the original it sure as hell would be a questionable thing.
The point is to have 2D SNES like game, in glorious 3D HD/4K. It's just the best of both world for me. That's what Octopath Traveler managed to do here.
Value is always subjective though?
People pays $20,000 for a Hermes bag, which definitely doesn't cost 200 times normal bag.
It's fine if people don't find this worth $60 and the solution is very simple: wait for discount or don't buy.
I'll pay $60 for this game, but I won't even pay $20 for God of War, Uncharted (insert AAA title) simply because it is of no interest to me.
Everyone has different criteria of things they value.
The market will dictate whether this game is worth $60 or not, and by the sign of it, the whining in this forum is minority.
then why do you have a problem with people who dont find it worth the price?
But this is just a 2d snes like game with a stylized 2d hybrid artstyle, what purpose would blowing up these low res textures and sprites to 4k serve? FF7 remake is a glorious 3d conversion, Dq7 is a straight up 3d conversion. This could literally use sprites from the original ff6 and you would struggle to tell the difference after some post processing. thats not what id call a glorious 3d conversion.
I'm so confused by this kind of statement lol...
How is this looking 4k to you with 16x16 textures all over the place and 70% of the screen blurred...
Actual 2d pixel art is way crisper..
Do I even have a problem with people not finding Octopath price appropriate? Hell no.
I'm questioning what's the point of bitching in every single thread about this game.
You can have your problem and so can I finding problem in people bitching about the same thing.
I also don't go to GoW thread saying the game is not worth $60.
And if I do, I would expect some backlash from people.
Cyrus has some of the best crowd control from the get go. It's versatile and he has the mana pool to support it. His single target damage is also pretty good. Eventually all the characters can learn his skills, what sets him apart is his auto-analyse which is a pain to play without. Having analyse and a random-encounter-reducer from the start is pretty nice too
Yeah I played the first one, it didn't strike me but this game is more a return to the "glory days" than to FF6 in particular.
I'm hyped as fuck personnally and I hope the game finds its success.
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One , i didnt say its not worth $60. I said i can see why people dont seem to find it worth $60.
Secondly , this is a widely available commercial product, not an actual painting, so its valuation is not nearly as subjective as you put it. Think of like someone selling a movie exclusive to cd-rom or dvd at uhd blu ray price. You can think of the movie inside the dvd as highly as you want but theres gonna backlash to it and its not as simple as some hivemind not valuing the movie as much as you. Standard market practices exist for a reason.
You're mistaking my argument from someone else's?
I'm comparing this to Hermes bag, which is another widely available commercial product.
Nothing in my post mention about art or painting.
Also, I literally said I can understand people not finding this worth $60, but I don't see the reason for same people to post the literally same thing in every single thread. Maybe start a thread "Is Octopath Traveler worth $60?", then they can talk until page 500 for all they care.
I hope all moaning from people about the price gets moderated in the OT. Like, at this point it's just shitposting.
Don't worry, the toxic discussion only happens in this forum, just as the "sexual pandering" of XBC2 only get blown out of proportion in this forum.
Well, like, FF6 is one of the greatest games ever made, so you should be okay?
Yeah look it's the same exact thing as a SNES game :
I can't tell which one is the Switch game.
User Banned (2 Days): Trolling + Driving a derailment over the price of a game
a $20000 luxury designer bag isnt exactly a widely available commercial product. Its a luxury good thats treated differently in economics. Theres also nothing different in the posts about the pricing compared to those omg so hype, i love this game blah blah, other than you seem to disagree with the former. Neither are substantial enough to start new topics.
But in any case , no point further discussing this since the special kids are here.
i mean i swear to god theres like 3 games a year tops that happen to be nintendo exclusives that i even bother to discuss here and posters specifically like you make me regret it instantly.
did i say all snes rpgs look identical to octopath ?Yeah look it's the same exact thing as a SNES game :
I can't tell which one is the Switch game.
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Yeah look it's the same exact thing as a SNES game :
I can't tell which one is the Switch game.
His point is that they can't see what this style can bring to FF6 or CT and he's right, it doesn't bring anything of note to the pixel art. Your screens are a disingenuous comparison using the botched steam version too. Pixel art scales with resolution
http://portbegging.tumblr.com/post/75074889969/port-begging-for-chrono-trigger-publisher
I can't look at this and tell myself that CT needs an OT style remake. It only needs a quality port.
You can replace the Hermes bag with a $2000 LV or Chanel and my argument would still stand.
Those bags are widely available (anyone can buy if they want), but not everyone will find those stuffs worth the cost.
I'd agree if it's only thread about demo or something similar since obviously people try to see if they'd like to buy.
I just don't see how thread about inspiration of this game can sprout discussion about value of the game, or thread appreciating the pixel art.
Next thing maybe thread about music also will have people discussing the price yet again.
But I agree we should just drop this, especially since I'm not too happy either with childish people not being able to discuss things without being personal.
I don't understand either why everything needs to be ported in this style.
I honestly don't think there's anything wrong with SNES JRPG (FF6, CT, FF5, etc).
They have beautiful 2D sprites that have aged very well like fine wine. And this comes from someone who likes Octopath artstyle.
It's not like we even know full Octopath to decide whether it's another classic in the vein of CT, FF6 or RS.
I'd rather the team try to do something different.
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PSA to the Octopath defenders on a warpath in here: it's ok to be hyped for a game and also accept that other people aren't as hyped as you. Their opinions are intended to invalidate your opinions or you as a person. It's ok to disagree and discuss.
Yeah look it's the same exact thing as a SNES game :
I can't tell which one is the Switch game.
I just found the face went along funny with all the complaints. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
His point is that they can't see what this style can bring to FF6 or CT and he's right, it doesn't bring anything of note to the pixel art. Your screens are a disingenuous comparison using the botched steam version too. Pixel art scales with resolution
http://portbegging.tumblr.com/post/75074889969/port-begging-for-chrono-trigger-publisher
I can't look at this and tell myself that CT needs an OT style remake. It only needs a quality port.
Chrono Trigger desperately needs an Octopath update with new sprites to boot.
The problem with the price discussion is that is purely subjective and can be made of any game ever, so it's pointless at the end.
Vanquish was 70 € at launch, and I completed the game in less than 7 hours.
I've played TLOU only once in the Ps4, and it was 40 € or so at launch.
On the other hand, I've played BotW for 120 hours, being half of them my most funny hours in gaming ever, and the game was "only" 60€.
Vanquish was 70 € at launch, and I completed the game in less than 7 hours.
I've played TLOU only once in the Ps4, and it was 40 € or so at launch.
On the other hand, I've played BotW for 120 hours, being half of them my most funny hours in gaming ever, and the game was "only" 60€.
People banging on about this not being worth $60 sheeeesh. Why not start a thread discussing what constitutes value to you in terms of games instead of coming in here to post - I mean what is your criteria? Quality of the game? Apparently not. Irrelevant. Length of game / content? Nope irrelevant again. Do you only go to the cinema to see films with a budget of 200 million as the others are not worth the money? Sure they might be better films but they only cost 100 million to make so what a rip off! Sounds completely and totally moronic
Is this what the Steam version looks like now? Game still looks so good in HD. I'd pay $40 for a Switch port.His point is that they can't see what this style can bring to FF6 or CT and he's right, it doesn't bring anything of note to the pixel art. Your screens are a disingenuous comparison using the botched steam version too. Pixel art scales with resolution
http://portbegging.tumblr.com/post/75074889969/port-begging-for-chrono-trigger-publisher
I can't look at this and tell myself that CT needs an OT style remake. It only needs a quality port.
$60 for a port with the Octopath treatment.
Why Comic Sans tho...
Also, it's neat, but the enemy sprites would probably need to be redrawn with higher detail. Those low res sprites don't look very good blown up that big.
I liked BD as well, but that was mostly due to it's excellent combat system (and enemies that force you to change it up).
That's exactly it. There's no way around.
I also don't care about 99% of AAA games and wouldn't pay anything to play these, yet I'm ok to pay 50-60~ € for game like Saga Scarlet Grace for example.
If I can spend 100+h of amazing time on a game, I think it's plenty worth it.
Can anyone explain to me why the title screen video of the demo looks nice and crisp, but when you are playing there's a slight blurriness about it, like it's not an exact pixel multiple resolution?
I thought, okay, maybe in portable mode it can't reach the right resolution, but then how is the title video so crisp looking, isn't that the same resolution?
I thought, okay, maybe in portable mode it can't reach the right resolution, but then how is the title video so crisp looking, isn't that the same resolution?
You think so ?
No it doesn't, it's a mock-up from the tumblr link I've posted. The steam version has a narrower field of view so it isn't true widescreen. They're coming a long way though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xHeor9kUp4
The Octopath session at Japan Exop starts now. In French.
The Octopath session at Japan Exop starts now. In French.
I just pre-ordered this. It'll be my first jrpg on a console since like FF12. I haven't even played the full 3 hours on the demo yet, and I'm not like constantly obsessed with the game or anything. It's pretty cool. I get it.
I just thought it might be neat to play on the couch while my girlfriend watches TV or something.
It's pretty cool looking, and I did love jrpgs back in the day, so what the hell.
I just thought it might be neat to play on the couch while my girlfriend watches TV or something.
It's pretty cool looking, and I did love jrpgs back in the day, so what the hell.
