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Static

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Oct 25, 2017
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You think

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Looks better than this?
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He did not directly compare them, and did not say "the best looking game on PS4 Pro."

I agree that it remains one of the best looking games of the generation. I don't know how putting it near the top of the heap would even be in contention.

Disclaimer: I played on PC, and am only going off the screenshot you provided which may or may not be particularly generous.
 

Furisco

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I really like Witcher 3, but it could've been a top 10 game if it had a dope combat system.
 
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What the fuck is this discussion lmao. So much disinformation you have to wonder if some have actually played the game. The game is drab and brown? The artistic vision is off? Wow, it's like the entire game takes place in the Velen swamps or something. The game is extremely colorful and is cohesive and convincing in the aesthetic it's going for and it's just madness to think otherwise considering how many examples have been given (and there are so many more). Reading this would lead me to believe the PS4 version is an entirely different game from the PC version I played.
 
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MrConbon210

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What the fuck is this discussion lmao. So much disinformation you have to wonder if some have actually played the game. The game is drab and brown? The artistic vision is off? Wow, it's like the entire game takes place in the Velen swamps or something. The game is extremely colorful and is cohesive and convincing in the aesthetic it's going for and it's just madness to think otherwise considering how many examples have been given (and there are so many more). Reading this would lead me to believe the PS4 version is an entirely different game from the PC version I played.

I based the OP off of what I played last night. And last night the whole time I was in Velen so...yeah
 

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It's a version of the game that is on sale. If that's the version someone played, then they got an inferior version. Not that the Switch one was anything to write home about, but it's entirely valid. Just like how someone who played Witcher 3 on console is having an inferior experience in regards to graphics and frame rate than someone on pc.
I'm saying the Wii U version of BotW is nowhere close to as worse compared to the Switch version compared to TW3 on consoles versus PC.
 

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Then why complain about me bringing up Breath of the Wild? It's not like I overly talked about it in the OP. I also mentioned Assassin's Creed. It's to build a frame of reference for what my problems were and what games I thought of that did it better/worse.
I'm not complaining, I'm just questioning the usefulness of the comparison. I wouldn't want The Witcher to play anything like BotW and vice-versa. BotW could've definitely had a better story, but I dont really want Zelda to take cues from the way The Witcher told its narrative. They are trying to be two vastly different things, so much so that I think the desire to compare them is flawed. The Witcher is first and foremost an adaptation of its source material, and as an adaptation it is rather fantastic. People complain about the combat, but in terms of adhering to the way combat is described and plays out in the novels the combat in The Witcher 3 is exemplary. By contrast, BotW is unconcerned with adapting and being authentic to a separate work, and thus is wholly unconcerned with appearances or authenticity in favor of discovery and fun. The climbing, flurry rush, and many other mechanics in BotW look incredibly silly and unrealistic, but they are fun to perform and experiment with and they fit the world of Zelda better. If Geralt was barehanded climbing a sheer cliff it would look really stupid, it wouldn't fit, but it's fine when Link does it. Similarly, a quest about how the king of Hyrule was an alcoholic due to his PTSD from war time, and his demons led him to beating his wife to the point she lost her baby and then it turned into an aborted fetus monsters would be extremely off-putting and out of place in Zelda, but it makes sense in the Witcher universe.

Obviously I dont think you are saying one game should wholesale lift mechanics from the other, but what I'm getting at is that what works for one game may not necessarily work for another.
 
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Go back to Fortnite, that's a new game you can handle.

You're playing it on a souped up PS4.

There's your problem.

Play it on a high end PC then come back to me.

It's still one of the best games of all time.

OP is right, people only thought it was that good because this gen didnt actually really start til 2016 and it was the first "next gen" bait game since uncharted 2.

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Like I said. The game has moments of vividness and gorgeous worlds but for the majority of the game it looked like this

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OP, you're exactly right.

Those issues were niggles when the game came out, but three years on they're completely immersion-breaking.

For me, whenever a game's combat is just serviceable at best, it's basically a graphic novel at that point. That's how I feel about The Witcher III - great writing, great story, great characters - but weak gameplay.
 

Static

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I'm saying the Wii U version of BotW is nowhere close to as worse compared to the Switch version compared to TW3 on consoles versus PC.
Man is the quality gap between PC and consoles that bad? Rough for console players. It was always a little bit frustrating to hear CDPR had fumbled this or that thing while trying to fix something else in their latest patch, which seemed to happen every single fucking time they patched the console versions.

I guess I should consider myself lucky to have been isolated from that.
 
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I finished the game+DLC not 2 months ago (albeit on PC) and if it had come out this year I would still vote it for GOTY, it's an unparalleled game.

Never got the combat complaints either, but whatever.
 

Qassim

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Well at the part of the game I was in, I only had the option of being in Velen. I'm judging it based on what I saw of it last night. And all I saw last night wasn't anything like the previous pictures posted.

That's an incredibly weird argument.

I booted up Mario Odyssey the other day, I was in a dark corner in the Cap Kingdom, then I shut it off. Boring, dark and ugly game.
 

Mindfreak191

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Why are the sounds of trees bending and cracking in the wind so loud

I never understood this complaint...People were furious about the trees bending in the wind too much...I don't know about your life experiences, and maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing you've never been to an eastern Europe village and witnessed a rainstorm? Because I have, many times, and the game nails it when it comes to that part.

Anyways, back to the main complaint here, "I'm judging the game on the console I'm playing", let me just give a small list of games that come to my mind that are considered masterpieces, but if they were judged by their PC ports should be considered pieces of shit:

Resident Evil 4
Devil May Cry 3
Dark Souls
GTA IV
Arkham Knight (not much of a masterpiece, but a great game nonetheless)

This is just to name a few, all these games (which received major praise for their console versions) had the most horrendous PC ports. Are they bad games then? Absolutely not! But, if we were to follow OP's logic, which in this case is "I played TW3 on a ps4 pro, therefore I'll judge the game solely by that version", would also mean that RE4 and all the other games mentioned are crap. What is more concerning in this case is OP's stubbornness towards even considering the PC version (I know, he stated that he doesn't want to play on PC, and doesn't want to spend money building a PC), but that type of attitude is not helping anyone in this discussion. As said before, my first playthrough of the game was maxed out on a PC, I played it for about 12h on a base ps4, and currently I'm 30h in on my 1X, and I can say with full certainty, that despite the 4k resolution on the 1X, playing the game at 30fps with decreased graphical effects compared to the PC version, makes the game feel a lot more clunkier and worse than it actually is.
 

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You think

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Looks better than this?
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Tech wise? Not , not even close . HZD is head and shoulders above W3. But HZD is a single platform exclusive , made by devs who know how ps4 internals work vs a third party multiplatform game that is made by devs who never done a game on a console ? Art direction wise? I will take W3 every day of the week over horizon
 

GalvoAg

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I can assure you it looks spectacular on the X. Have it on all three PC, PS4 and just picked it up for Xbox. Played it on the original PS4, messed around with it on PC and am currently doing my third play through on the X with my girl. It looks amazing on the X in 4k and we just finished up the Bloody Barron missions, if the Pro version looks anything like this I am not really sure what you're getting at.
 

Punished Dan

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I have to disagree with the OP.
Finished the game earlier this year and still playing through the Blood & Wine DLC. Playing on an Xbox One and yeah, the game is a little rough in parts but it's still a stellar example of story and world building.
 
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MrConbon210

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I never understood this complaint...People were furious about the trees bending in the wind too much...I don't know about your life experiences, and maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing you've never been to an eastern Europe village and witnessed a rainstorm? Because I have, many times, and the game nails it when it comes to that part.

Anyways, back to the main complaint here, "I'm judging the game on the console I'm playing", let me just give a small list of games that come to my mind that are considered masterpieces, but if they were judged by their PC ports should be considered pieces of shit:

Resident Evil 4
Devil May Cry 3
Dark Souls
GTA IV
Arkham Knight (not much of a masterpiece, but a great game nonetheless)

This is just to name a few, all these games (which received major praise for their console versions) had the most horrendous PC ports. Are they bad games then? Absolutely not! But, if we were to follow OP's logic, which in this case is "I played TW3 on a ps4 pro, therefore I'll judge the game solely by that version", would also mean that RE4 and all the other games mentioned are crap. What is more concerning in this case is OP's stubbornness towards even considering the PC version (I know, he stated that he doesn't want to play on PC, and doesn't want to spend money building a PC), but that type of attitude is not helping anyone in this discussion. As said before, my first playthrough of the game was maxed out on a PC, I played it for about 12h on a base ps4, and currently I'm 30h in on my 1X, and I can say with full certainty, that despite the 4k resolution on the 1X, playing the game at 30fps with decreased graphical effects compared to the PC version, makes the game feel a lot more clunkier and worse than it actually is.

People are free to shit on Dark Souls or whatever if they had a bad experience with it on PC. Like I said, I'm a broke college student who has nowhere near the funds for a PC that would be stronger than my Pro. I have no other option that judging the game based on the hardware I have.
 

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I really dont understand why you'd compare this game to BotW, outside of both being open world they are completely different and focus on entirely different things.
Not only that. If Witcher 3 on ps4/ps4pro have framerate/graphic glitchs problems as do BOTW on NS/Wii U.
I playing those days both Witcher 3 and Horizon Zero Dawn on ps4 and I must say Witcher 3 don't aged like he sayed.
 

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Anyways, I am replaying it now actually. First time on a ps4 tho. And the issues i had back then I still have now. but it is still the best game this gen and one the the best RPGs. The writing, world building, art direction, music , atmosphere is still unmatched 3 years after release
 
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MrConbon210

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That's an incredibly weird argument.

I booted up Mario Odyssey the other day, I was in a dark corner in the Cap Kingdom, then I shut it off. Boring, dark and ugly game.

I played for like 3-4 hours riding around and exploring the world. It's not like I turned it on for 5 minutes and went yep looks bad and shut it off.
 
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He said "one of the best" not "the best".

But, well, at least you aren't using absurdly compressed, low-res Youtube screenshots to claim the game looks bad anymore. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Just looking on google images. I'm on my phone so I honestly don't know the quality of the images. Not trying to cherry pick bad pictures or anything.
 

Reektan

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Playing any open world game close after BOTW is a problem. I did this where I played BOTW then went straight int Horizon and was frustrated at not being able to climb everything or glide about. Played it a year later and loved it. Maybe the same thing would happen playing the Witcher so soon after BOTW?
 

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Still need to try this game as I love the setting

But..

I wished it was more like skyrim (dont give me hate) in terms of making your own character, completely open, the combat (yes). More sandbox rpg, would have been ALL over the game if so
 

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Still need to try this game as I love the setting

But..

I wished it was more like skyrim (dont give me hate) in terms of making your own character, completely open, the combat (yes). More sandbox rpg, would have been ALL over the game if so
But thats .. the TES thing....
 

RedSwirl

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I guess I gotta pop back in for a bit. Already have it reinstalled.

When I originally played Witcher 3 it was on PC at more or less medium settings on a 760 -- probably not far off from what it looks like on base PS4, probably worse than what it looks like on PS4 Pro. I got a bit into a New Game+ on my new graphics card though. There's definitely a discussion to be had on graphics between HZD and Witcher 3, especially PS4 Witcher 3 and probably even ultra PC Witcher 3.

There are definitely some UI aspects that could have been better, but the overall world design in Witcher 3 is still some of the best in open-world games. My perception of it may be a tad bit off because when starting TW3 I immediately turned off map indicators for undiscovered points of interest and found basically all of them organically, which felt way better. Other than that, TW3 is one of the few open-world games that feels less like a theme park and more like a lived-in world. That and the characters are what really make the game for me.

BOTW I think goes for different things than TW3. It's still very much a theme park-style open world but executes it better than most by maintaining a sense of mystery in its environments. BOTW also lets you play around with and explore geography on a scale beyond that of previous open-world games, largely by nature of the climbing. It's unique among its contemporaries in that if you see a mountain way off in the distance, you can just climb right over it, and there's likely stuff hidden on that mountain. Wither 3 is more of a "world and characters" sort of thing whereas BOTW is more of a "playing around with systems" kind of game.

My ultimate open-world game would probably land in some kind of nexus between BOTW, TW3, and Kingdom Come.
 

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Agree with 90% of what you said, OP, and this is how I felt about the game when I played it in 2015. I didn't agree with all the adulation the game got at the time. It's a good game, don't get me wrong, but it is far from perfect. Combat was meh, exploration was merely okay, art design wasn't very interesting or inspired, and side activities were simplistic. The game had other virtues that counterbalanced those things, but I came away thinking 8/10.

Looking forward to Cyberpunk. That sounds like it will be a big step forward.
 

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I started up Witcher 3 for a second playthrough and I actually find that the combat is much better than I remember.

I think when I played it before it was right around when I played Arkham Knight (either that or some other arcade-y action game), so I couldn't help but try to play it like one of those games, but it's definitely its own thing.
I still don't think it's great at large group combat (like getting juggled between 4 dogs/wolves), but fighting other people is definitely better than I remember. I think I never took the time to get good at parrying/blocking which helps make it feel better.

Graphically the game is still gorgeous and varied (even better now that my PC is more upgraded and I can get a consistent 60fps) while still having a consistent look throughout the game. Yeah, you can spend a lot of time in one area so I can see getting bored of that, but go explore and there's a lot to see. It's not Dragon Age Inquisition where you have crazy variety like a Mario game (Deserts, jungles, forests, coastlines, mountains, snowy areas, etc), but the different areas of Witcher are quite varied and unique (swamps, battlefields, rocky islands, dense forests, small towns, rich cities, etc.). And I haven't even gotten to the DLC yet.
 

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Every darn time I read a thread like this I consider uninstalling the game to get space back, but then the following posts make me think I should give it another chance (this happened so many times). The thing is I even like Dragon Age Inquisition, and I remember when The Witcher 3 was about to launch the Dragon Age Inquisition team talked about how they are happy to try it and people in the DAI Multiplayer forums were all, "Dragon Age Inquisition is done, Witcher 3 is about to launch."

My main problems with Witcher is the magic seems very limited, no party to build, and I can't get into the story to actually care about sticking with the game since the gameplay isn't initially hooking me. With Dragon Age Inquisition, the gameplay was so different from DA1 and 2 to me. The PC keyboard and mouse controls were messed up, and having melee party members that weren't a tank just didn't work well. 700 hours of Dragon Age Multiplayer later, and a lot of patches + Trespasser dlc knocked me out of, "Play this like Dragon Age 1 and 2" mode. I need something like this for Witcher 3 I guess, maybe I should forget building for magic and play it like diablo 3 without awesome loot dropping every now and then. Oh also that's another thing, it seem to have no interesting loot. DAI has that, and even now I'm back on Dragon Age MP to get some loot this weekend.


Darn you Anthem... Darn you!!!!!​
This isn't the CD Projekt Red praise I saw from the DA Multiplayer team, but it seem like a lot of people at Bioware was excited for Witcher 3. Lady Insanity (I think their community manager at the time?), Luke one of the DA MP developers that put together weekly live streams about DA Multiplayer stuff talked about it there iirc.
 
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I play it on base PS4 and think it's one of the best looking PS4 games of the generation. It may have its bad moments, but the world is far and above any other imagined area I've played in a game in terms of layout and design. It is a beautiful world.
 

Rodney McKay

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Every darn time I read a thread like this I consider uninstalling the game to get space back, but then the following posts make me think I should give it another chance (this happened so many times). The thing is I even like Dragon Age Inquisition, and I remember when The Witcher 3 was about to launch the Dragon Age Inquisition team talked about how they are happy to try it and people in the DAI Multiplayer forums were all, "Dragon Age Inquisition is done, Witcher 3 is about to launch."

My main problems with Witcher is the magic seems very limited, no party to build, and I can't get into the story to actually care about sticking with the game since the gameplay isn't initially hooking me. With Dragon Age Inquisition, the gameplay was so different from DA1 and 2 to me. The PC keyboard and mouse controls were messed up, and having melee party members that weren't a tank just didn't work well. 700 hours of Dragon Age Multiplayer later, and a lot of patches + Trespasser dlc knocked me out of, "Play this like Dragon Age 1 and 2" mode. I need something like this for Witcher 3 I guess, maybe I should forget building for magic and play it like diablo 3 without awesome loot dropping every now and then. Oh also that's another thing, it seem to have no interesting loot. DAI has that, and even now I'm back on Dragon Age MP to get some loot this weekend.
It's definitely not a magic focused game, or a loot game for that matter.

Magic in Witcher is more to help augment the sword combat. Geralt's not really a blank slate "choose a class" kinda character, he's a sword guy with some minor magic abilities and uses gadgets (crossbow, traps, oils, bombs, etc) to help a little with fighting. It's like in Batman you have gadgets, but they're just there to help you beat people up with hand-to-hand combat. Magic is to help protect you, weaken enemies, get you out of sticky situations, distract, etc, not really for doing the heavy combat lifting.

And the loot, it's definitely not a priority. Some of the best armor is related to quests (the Witcher armor) so once I got that I didn't really worry about collecting gear much much after that.
 

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I booted it up on the PS4 Pro and was thrust back into the main quest line where I had to go find Triss in Novigrad. I played a few hours a couple months back and got to the end of the Bloody Baron quest and put it down due to other games like God of War getting in the way.

The first thing I noticed was for a game people call gorgeous. The game sure is drab and brown. There's beautiful moments like when there's a big orange sunset, but for the majority of my experience I was looking at murky browns. Something is off about the graphics and I can't put my finger on it. Maybe it's the overabudance of low textures of the grass or lack of more brighter colors like there is in the Blood and Wine expansion (which I never got to yet). For a game that has Pro support I expected the game to look a bit better.

I can't speak on the console experience. On a high-end PC, the game is gorgeous. Even the beginning sequence, with the sun against the water around the cart that the griffon attacked, it immediately struck me as wonderful when I played the game two years ago.

That said, Horizon: Zero Dawn definitely makes TW3 graphically look bad, and that's even comparing the PS4 Pro to the high-end Witcher 3 experience on PC. HZD does have some issues with faces and facial animation but otherwise yes, it's the superior visual game; beautiful colors, well-done HDR, better enemy designs, much more variety, etc.

I decided to roam around on horseback for a while and forgot all about how awful Roach is to control. The horse freaks the hell out at any semblance of a hill or bridge. It was frustrating to get anywhere as Roach would constantly stop for no reason and lose all momentum. There were times that it was flat and easy to manuver terrain and Roach still wouldn't cooperate at times. Assassin's Creed Origins still has the best horse in my opinion. That horse has no problems jumping down cliffs and runs at max speed without you needing to hold buttons down. Not to mention the autorun on the path for Roach is horrendous. If there's any turn Roach will need to take he'll much rather abandon the path and run into a tree.

LOL my dude, you can't really praise Breath of the Wild and criticize Witcher's horseback riding. They are both terrible, though, I agree.

As I roamed around on horseback I noticed a number of glitches and odd quirks. There was a pack of wolves running through the air, groups of villagers would pop out of nowhere onto the road, and other general glitches I wouldn't expect after a game that has had so many patches. It feels almost like AC:Unity with the wonky townspeople

As I came across some minor activities to do like monster nests or hidden treasure, I realized two things. The combat sucks and the side activity is repetitive. First the combat. I was one of the people who never disliked the combat back in 2015 and thought it fine for the time. But now there's so many options like oils and random potions that I never once felt like using (playing on normal like I do for all games) and Geralt has noticeable delay on every action you want him to do. The combat is basically, smash square and then dodge roll, however animations take so long by the time you roll the monster and already hit you.

I didn't experience that with the glitches. For the most part The Witcher 3 was good, particularly for an open world game... I didn't have a bunch of showstopper bugs like I did in Fallout 4, for instance.

Combat, again, you can't praise Breath of the Wild and then shit on TW3's combat. They are both awful, for different reasons. TW3's combat does suck, though. I can't deny that. The animations are lengthy and yet poor; like Geralt flails around a lot. It doesn't "feel" good and tight. And the difficulty in TW3, just as in TW2, is inverted- the beginning is tougher, the end becomes a cakewalk as you have many more tools to deal with monsters (and humans).

So I'm disappointed to see that one of my favorite games doesn't hold up as much as I wanted it to. Maybe Breath of the Wild spoiled me, but the game instantly feels aged which is not great for a game that's only 3 years old.

I disagree. To me, The Witcher 3 is still the best game this generation, and the best WRPG ever made. I do recognize its gameplay problems, and I personally was more invested in the game's story so I was able to overlook them when I played it.

For me, the game that really challenged TW3 was Horizon: Zero Dawn, and not Breath of the Wild. I think BotW was a charming game that brings great exploration and traversal to the table, but consider:

-nonexistent story and characters
-open world inadequately developed
-bad, shallow combat
-lack of dungeons
-lack of meaningful progression
-weapon durability is trash system
-awful UI
-dated visuals

Horizon has some flaws too, in that the game feels way too safe, but I'd put forth that it overall outclasses both The Witcher 3 and Zelda: Breath of the Wild as a complete (and consistent!) package- better combat than both other games, better visuals than both games, better traversal than TW3, better story/characters than BotW.

I'd still put The Witcher 3 over Horizon just because the story and impactful side quests made more of an impression on me at the time. I don't agree that the game has aged poorly. There have been open-world games which followed that improved on this or that, but I don't feel like the game has been fully passed-by, not really.
 
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Can't speak for the console versions but playing the PC version at Ultra settings 60fps+ with Mods, the game still holds up fine for me and is still one of my favourite games this gen.
 

Budi

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Still need to try this game as I love the setting

But..

I wished it was more like skyrim (dont give me hate) in terms of making your own character, completely open, the combat (yes). More sandbox rpg, would have been ALL over the game if so
I understand that you have your preferences, but it would be worse for it and mostly a different game. Though keep your eye on Cyberpunk 2077, it will probably scratch that itch bit better even if the setting is way different.
 

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The story isn't engaging as I never got to finish the first 2 games because of how much the chore the combat is. So I have no idea who half these people are and could care less. The world feels rich and large with some interesting monsters but again the combat is just too damn boring and makes it a chore to push through. I just got the whirlwind ability and it seems to plow through mobs pretty easily. It would of been a sick game if it were not for the gameplay. Also the voice acting seems off and I'm not at all happy how Geralt seem to not care about what happen the orphans at the bog.
 

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I finished the game on Xbox one back then. Ever since I sold my One I'm itching for a replay but get bored and frustrated only couple hours in. It's not a good game to replay.
 

Huey

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Maybe Breath of the Wild spoiled me, but the game instantly feels aged which is not great for a game that's only 3 years old.

I had the opposite experience - I was part way into breath of the wild but then realized I just wanted to be playing the Witcher instead, so picked it up for a second time. Haven't picked up BOTW again, though I probably should. Just honestly hard to accommodate to those visuals after other open world games :|

Well that's a shame because almost all of your "problems" with the game can be solved by playing it on PC.

But... I'm sure you can appreciate how that's not very useful advice for people without PCs though
 

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Man, it was the opposite for me. Witcher 3 ruined any enjoyment I might have had from BOTW. I hated BOTW after playing TW3.
 

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The story isn't engaging as I never got to finish the first 2 games because of how much the chore the combat is. So I have no idea who half these people are and could care less. The world feels rich and large with some interesting monsters but again the combat is just too damn boring and makes it a chore to push through. I just got the whirlwind ability and it seems to plow through mobs pretty easily. It would of been a sick game if it were not for the gameplay. Also the voice acting seems off and I'm not at all happy how Geralt seem to not care about what happen the orphans at the bog.

If you get later into the game, you'll find that dulled emotions are a side effect of the Witcher transformation. Geralt is dry and a bit aloof as a result.
 
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I can't speak on the console experience. On a high-end PC, the game is gorgeous. Even the beginning sequence, with the sun against the water around the cart that the griffon attacked, it immediately struck me as wonderful when I played the game two years ago.

That said, Horizon: Zero Dawn definitely makes TW3 graphically look bad, and that's even comparing the PS4 Pro to the high-end Witcher 3 experience on PC. HZD does have some issues with faces and facial animation but otherwise yes, it's the superior visual game; beautiful colors, well-done HDR, better enemy designs, much more variety, etc.



LOL my dude, you can't really praise Breath of the Wild and criticize Witcher's horseback riding. They are both terrible, though, I agree.



I didn't experience that with the glitches. For the most part The Witcher 3 was good, particularly for an open world game... I didn't have a bunch of showstopper bugs like I did in Fallout 4, for instance.

Combat, again, you can't praise Breath of the Wild and then shit on TW3's combat. They are both awful, for different reasons. TW3's combat does suck, though. I can't deny that. The animations are lengthy and yet poor; like Geralt flails around a lot. It doesn't "feel" good and tight. And the difficulty in TW3, just as in TW2, is inverted- the beginning is tougher, the end becomes a cakewalk as you have many more tools to deal with monsters (and humans).



I disagree. To me, The Witcher 3 is still the best game this generation, and the best WRPG ever made. I do recognize its gameplay problems, and I personally was more invested in the game's story so I was able to overlook them when I played it.

For me, the game that really challenged TW3 was Horizon: Zero Dawn, and not Breath of the Wild. I think BotW was a charming game that brings great exploration and traversal to the table, but consider:

-nonexistent story and characters
-open world inadequately developed
-bad, shallow combat
-lack of dungeons
-lack of meaningful progression
-weapon durability is trash system
-awful UI
-dated visuals

Horizon has some flaws too, in that the game feels way too safe, but I'd put forth that it overall outclasses both The Witcher 3 and Zelda: Breath of the Wild as a complete (and consistent!) package- better combat than both other games, better visuals than both games, better traversal than TW3, better story/characters than BotW.

I'd still put The Witcher 3 over Horizon just because the story and impactful side quests made more of an impression on me at the time. I don't agree that the game has aged poorly. There have been open-world games which followed that improved on this or that, but I don't feel like the game has been fully passed-by, not really.

Don't want to turn this into a Zelda vs Witcher thread but let me provide some rebuttals to your arguments.

-Dungeons we're always my least favorite part of Zelda so I enjoy how you get more puzzles spaced out instead of condensed dungeons of nonstop puzzles
-the weapon durability is an awesome mechanic once you realize that it makes all loot interesting as you will be needing a variety of weapons. It's a lot better than "oh this number is lower than this weapon so it's junk".
-Combat was responsive and Link always did what you wanted him to do.
-The only UI I had on was the heart containers as the minimap and such didn't add much. Easy to play with all of it turned off.
-Love the art style much more than Witcher's
 

Qassim

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I played for like 3-4 hours riding around and exploring the world. It's not like I turned it on for 5 minutes and went yep looks bad and shut it off.

But you know it's a massive game with more than one region.. "The game has moments of vividness and gorgeous worlds but for the majority of the game it looked like this" is obviously silly, "Well the game is dark and gloomy cuz i stayed in an area designed to be dark and gloomy".
 

RedOnePunch

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The controls and geralt's animations were dated even in 2015. It's such a huge blemish on an otherwise great game.
 

TwoCoins

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If you get later into the game, you'll find that dulled emotions are a side effect of the Witcher transformation. Geralt is dry and a bit aloof as a result.

I already know that his mutations make him come off as dry and non caring, but it doesn't mean he does not care...it seem off that he did not at-least ask about what happened? or get angry in a dry sort of way. Imean he got pretty angry when
he saw Junior Whoreson and all the dead whores in his room and beat him down without restraint and was worried about Ciri and so i made him kill Junior
It's how i wanted him to react in the bog...i also thought it was kind of weird how
Geralt barely mentions any details about Ana to Bloody Baron...like oh she's lost her mind,and oh, btw she aged 30 years and takes care of orphans who she feeds to the witches and doesn't even care to get involve until the Bloody Baron asks him to
 

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I picked up this game several times and couldn't muster more than an hour each time. I normally find it unfortunate when people - myself included - can't enjoy something that's widely acclaimed because I think to myself, "I wish you could enjoy this wonderful product," but I disliked my time with this game so much that I'm not at all concerned that I'll never experience what others claim to have.
 
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