Huh, you're right that was it:
http://comicbook.com/anime/2017/08/22/netflixs-death-note-tried-to-cast-an-asian-actor-for-l/
(Don't know how reliable that site is, was just the first result)
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Huh, you're right that was it:
http://comicbook.com/anime/2017/08/22/netflixs-death-note-tried-to-cast-an-asian-actor-for-l/
(Don't know how reliable that site is, was just the first result)
I actually spoke to my cousin's husband who is a Trans-Man and also an actor(hence the late respond). Too summarized are discussion I see the issue of having a Cis-Women's women's name attached to a Trans-Man in a film or any medium for that matter. It doesn't look good and perception is reality for a lot of people. I was looking at it from a "Male and Female" aspect. Geneitcs and gender are two different things. Apologies if my previous comment came of disrespectful to anyone here.
She can have the name attacted to this movie if the movie needs a big name to be greenlit. She can be his wife or ANY other character
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get fucked
LOL.
Scarjo is trash.
Nothing will get between her and her money.
Troublesome as some users are, it's a great improvement on most gaming/nerd culture type forums online.
I still engage because I see how so many users are ALMOST there in their understanding, and just need that final push to fully get it.
She's pulled out of the role
https://variety.com/2018/film/news/scarlett-johansson-exit-rub-and-tug-trans-backlash-1202872981/
https://variety.com/2018/film/news/scarlett-johansson-exit-rub-and-tug-trans-backlash-1202872981/
That's too bad. I was kind of interested in it. I had never heard of the person before, but it sounds like an interesting story, a trans person leading some kind of organized crime group.
I didn't agree the outrage here, especially after such great movies like Boys Don't Cry, The Danish Girl, and Dallas Buyers Club.
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There have been plenty of posts here and elsewhere explaining why trans people have a problem with the casting.
As for wheether the film would be good or not, I highly doubt it seeing as the director was seemingly unaware that Gill was trans.
Progress!!
A big no thank you to the people in this thread who said this was being upset over nothing, you all did nothing to make this happen. This is good news, proves people can change their attitudes with enough memes and social pressure.
Wasn't she also a producer on the project? So she's leaving entirely if she can't star in it?
Movie is probably gonna be binned
Wow, unexpected! Good to see. Of course the cynic in me questions how much it was motivated by PR vs ethics on the behalf of ScarJo + agent, still hopefully this sets a precedent for casting trans roles and other marginalized groups correctly.
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Better the movie get trashed than contribute to the gross perception that trans men are just women who've gone butch.
It's a shame she let public pressure take away an acting role she apparently seemed excited to do. She did absolutely nothing wrong by accepting this role, she was just being an actor. Oh well, her life, her choice. If she doesn't want to do it anymore, that's her prerogative.
Good she dropped role, she also was producing this right? I imagine she is going to be petty and completely remove her support/resources from the project and hope it dies.
Those movies where great for who actually? Trans people?
Yeah lets not feel for trans community but feel sad for Scarlet Johansson a woman who enables white washing and attacks a victim of child abuse.
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I'm not "sad" for Scarlett. I like her a lot as an actress, was disappointed for about 20 seconds that she decided to drop out of a movie she had every right to star in, and then I moved on with my life.
Except for all the people who actually care and are affected by poor trans representation telling her she was doing something wrong by accepting the role...
Those people are horribly mistaken. She is an actress, it's her job to act. She was offered a role and she took it. There's nothing wrong with doing that and people can be as mad about it as they want, it doesn't make their anger justifiable.
Speak for yourself. I see no problem with this whatsoever.
Okay. I look forward to Leonardo Dicaprio's portrayal of Malcolm X. Ain't nothing wrong with that!
Clearly the majority of queer people in this thread want it to stop. I'm not trans but we've got like three trans women in this thread calling this out as bullshit. Not my fault if you want to support something transphobic
A fellow poster who doesn't even know you just accused you of being a supporter of transphobia, because you are cool with an actress acting. What a world. We're officially through the looking glass.
I was speaking generally about straight people portraying gay people in movies.
I'm not transgendered, but I absolutely support them in this situation if they feel offended by this.
Ah got it. I'm cis/bi and i'm fine with that. That said i notice some straight actresses lack chemistry in those situations where actual romance is involved, but in general that's fine. Like Cumberbatch was great in that movie about Alan Turing
Also transgendered, that term it's considered offensive by some trans people I believe.
Not even what he meant dude. Why are you so eager to go to bat about this?
You are quoted saying "Its a Shame" you do know the meaning of the phrase, you are literally empathizing with her.
Your either ignorant of the issue or dont care, so this marginalized and oppressed group are the ones who are wrong.
You used the term "sad" and I used the term "disappointed." There's a difference between the two. I was disappointed in her decision, but I was not "sad" over it.
It isn't Scarlett Johansson's responsibility to find work for transgender actors and actresses. That is up to higher-ups and casting. Her job is to act, and if she is interested in playing any role that is offered to her in any movie, it is her complete and total right to take it. Maybe she considered it a new challenge to play a role like this and she wanted to test her own acting chops on the big screen with this challenge. I also don't think it is right for someone's work, which can be considered an art form, have someone tell them who should and should not be cast in that role. Every creator has a vision, and every creator should be able to choose what is right for that vision. They chose Scarlett, and she accepted. I see nothing wrong with it whatsoever.
If you had it your way, would you enact some type of a law or code that doesn't allow or bans people who aren't transgender from playing transgender roles?
So if it's a directors vision to have a white actor play.... Malcom X for example, that's ok because it's art?
lol I wonder what disappointed means.
I know what acting is, and in a fair and just world it would not matter who plays who and what.
But you seem to want to ignore the other criticisms and issues.
Race and gender bending happens all the time in theater with the exclusion of White actors playing Black roles due to history and that's only been a recent phenomenon.
This ain't answering the question.
And the answer is no, that shit would not be cool.
Yes but what if the artist's vision? That poster is suggesting artist vision is what's more important, more than what's considered offensive or morally right. So what you just said is irellevant.
Totally different situation. The argument against Scarlett playing the role in this movie is that transgender actors/actresses are under-represented in Hollywood and she's taking away an opportunity for one of them to get the job.
There are much fewer transgender actors and actresses in Hollywood than there are black actors, and I'm sure that any writer or director would cast a black actor to play Malcolm X.
I get what you're getting at, but if you want to go that route then you can't just stop there, you have to go all the way and say a straight actor can't play a gay character and a gay actor can't play a straight character. An Italian actor can't play a Jewish character, and a German actor can't play a Russian character, etc. If you start there, where does it end?
I think it would be fucking stupid for a director to cast a white guy as Malcolm X, but if they choose to do it, then yes, they should have the right. And then, the people have the right to not go see it if they so choose and express their displeasure by making it bomb at the box office. But should I think it should be outlawed? No. I don't think any writer, actor, or casting director should be outlawed from offering any job to anyone that isn't violating anything legally.
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