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NamasteWager

Member
Oct 27, 2017
879
Wait a second... this is saying Spiral Knights is at ~5mil. What are the criteria for this list? Is this like active player or all time players?
 

Ronnie Poncho

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
2,129
Some real investigative, facts based journalism? On my gaming news websites? It's more likely than you think.

Quite remarkable to see ArmA 3 right next to Fallout 4 with 6 mil sales. That's strong.

Garry's Mod at 18.5 and Rust at 9.5. Garry needs more money hats.
 

hobblygobbly

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,546
NORDFRIESLAND, DEUTSCHLAND
Yeah, wow:

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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim 13,235,488 72850
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition    4,398,897    489830

There's a lot of meat here with these numbers on the whole, but the sheer bulk of the Skyrim numbers still amazes me. I think I'd maybe argue that The Elder Scrolls is in that rarefied tier of gaming phenomenons just under GTA and Minecraft and right alongside stuff like PUBG. Insane for a singleplayer game.
And Skyrim to this day has 15-20k average daily players on Steam alone, no singleplayer game can pull those numbers so many years later, many multiplayer games can't either.
 

Conkerkid11

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
13,941
Still maintaining the game, IIRC. It's a day-z like game, so it's something he still works on. Shit, at 27 million sales, dude should continue working on it as long as he can. That's a certified major hit, low cost or not. That number is fucking insane. Major props to the dev.
You say sales, but it's a free game with an optional like $5 DLC.
 

Saint-14

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
14,477
Did FFXV get any price cuts yet? It probably will end up the best selling FF game on steam after all is said and done.
 

collige

Member
Oct 31, 2017
12,772
Some real investigative, facts based journalism? On my gaming news websites? It's more likely than you think.

Quite remarkable to see ArmA 3 right next to Fallout 4 with 6 mil sales. That's strong.

Garry's Mod at 18.5 and Rust at 9.5. Garry needs more money hats.
To be clear, Ars didn't do the actual investigation here.
 

Vivian-Pogo

Member
Jan 9, 2018
2,030
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed Collection - 1,232,451
Sonic Generations Collection - 647,871
Sonic Adventure 2 - 416,375
Sonic Adventure DX - 291,205
Sonic CD - 241,011
Sonic Mania - 168,633
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - Episode I - 144,813
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - Episode II - 83,454
Sonic Lost World - 72,200
Sonic Forces - 34,165
Team Sonic Racing - 3444 (must be pre-orders?)

Good job, consumers, for Mania outselling Forces 5 to 1.
 

Risev

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,399
Evil Within 2 not even on the list. Means it sold less than 237k on Steam. Damn it must've sold way less that I thought, and I knew it did bad. At least Sebastian's story had a satisfactory ending, so I wouldn't be that sad about it being the final entry (which it probably is).

Prey on the other hand is at 700k, though I'm not sure how low its price was during sales. Dishonored 2 is at 1.1 million so that's not bad at all, though I could see how Bethesda would be disappointed considering the first one is at 3.7 million.
 

Kyougar

Cute Animal Whisperer
Member
Nov 3, 2017
9,347
Evil Within 2 not even on the list. Means it sold less than 237k on Steam. Damn it must've sold way less that I thought, and I knew it did bad. At least Sebastian's story had a satisfactory ending, so I wouldn't be that sad about it being the final entry (which it probably is).

Prey on the other hand is at 700k, though I'm not sure how low its price was during sales. Dishonored 2 is at 1.1 million so that's not bad at all, though I could see how Bethesda would be disappointed considering the first one is at 3.7 million.

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Oct 27, 2017
1,722
USA
Evil Within 2 not even on the list. Means it sold less than 237k on Steam. Damn it must've sold way less that I thought, and I knew it did bad. At least Sebastian's story had a satisfactory ending, so I wouldn't be that sad about it being the final entry (which it probably is).

Prey on the other hand is at 700k, though I'm not sure how low its price was during sales. Dishonored 2 is at 1.1 million so that's not bad at all, though I could see how Bethesda would be disappointed considering the first one is at 3.7 million.
Dishonored II had a lot of bad press at launch for the performance of the PC version. They should have never switched engines IMO, it did nothing but hurt the game. It's a lot better now after patches, though it still has issues but I think it mainly too little too late for it.

It's a shame as it's a fantastic game (My personal GOTY that year) and has some of the best level design I've ever seen.
 

Mobyduck

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,100
Brazil
Wait a second... this is saying Spiral Knights is at ~5mil. What are the criteria for this list? Is this like active player or all time players?
It's the number of people who played the game at least once. Active players is a public number already.

By the way, can anyone tell me the numbers for Puzzle Pirates? Can't open the list here.
 

Risev

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,399
Dishonored II had a lot of bad press at launch for the performance of the PC version. They should have never switched engines IMO, it did nothing but hurt the game. It's a lot better now after patches, though it still has issues but I think it mainly too little too late for it.

It's a shame as it's a fantastic game (My personal GOTY that year) and has some of the best level design I've ever seen.
Yeah I know. I also remember AA being horrendous for Dishonored 2. TAA was a blurry mess, and anything else was either too jaggy, or hurt performance immensely. Great game though. Definitely need to do another playthrough. Also bought Death of the Outsider during the sale just a few days ago so I need to get on that as well.
 

Delusibeta

Prophet of Truth
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
5,648
More Xseed related numbers:
Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus: 120,376
Senran Kagura Estival Versus: 85,874
Senran Kagura Peach Beach Splash: 40,229
Valkyrie Drive Bhikkhuni: 28,801
Senran Kagura Bon Appetit: 20,860

Gee, I wonder why the Senran Kagura Burst remake is getting a PC port alongside the English version.

Also, since I made a post guesstimating sales about this game recently:

FOX n FORESTS: 1,482.

Damn, I was basically on the money before I'd released I had forgotten the non-English language reviews.
 

Risev

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,399
Metal Gear Survive sitting at under 70k sold (at a lesser launch price compared to Phantom Pain) is just sad. Frigging Konami man. Phantom Pain sitting at a great 1.75 million copies sold, Ground Zeroes at almost 900k (though I think it was given for free with Phantom Pain at some point?), and Rising at at almost 700k (that's about 600 thousand more copies than Survive, even though the game released on PC a while after its initial console release).

Konami done fucked it up. Doubt they care unfortunately.
 

Wintermute

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,051
just for clarity, from my reading of the data, this doesn't necessarily suggest that these games currently have those totals of players, just that a given title has been bought and played at least once by its owner. someone please correct me of wrong. seeing people expressing surprise that pubg currently has such *current* numbers, but imo there's no way to estimate the current active playerbase from these values.
 

Delusibeta

Prophet of Truth
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
5,648
just for clarity, from my reading of the data, this doesn't necessarily suggest that these games currently have those totals of players, just that a given title has been bought and played at least once by its owner. someone please correct me of wrong. seeing people expressing surprise that pubg currently has such *current* numbers, but imo there's no way to estimate the current active playerbase from these values.
So, on the one hand, you're correct, these are the number of Steam licences for each game that's in the world, so for stuff that's been given away for free (e.g. Payday 2, Unturned) it doesn't necessarily represent sales.

On the other hand, active playerbases would be more easily be identified through how many people are playing each game concurrently, and that remains public knowledge.
 

lexony

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,518
Wow Cities Skylines at 6 Million? In march they said that they are at 5 Million. This is not bad for a 3 years old game. (when this table is more or less accurate.)
 

devSin

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,194
Final Fantasy series on Steam
FF13 on top, where it belongs.

Why did cold steel 2 sell like trash
Probably lots of reasons. It's a sequel of a niche game. The future of the series is uncertain. It's long and requires some investment in earlier (equally long) games.

XSEED prices their games so that they don't have to move so many copies (because they know they won't). Sky FC is the cheapest (and oldest) of all those, which is why its numbers are so high (it goes on sale for sub-$10, which is impulse territory for a lot of people).

But Ys 8 and Xanadu show what happens when you go too high, especially when you turn out a boring (Xanadu) or absolute garbage (Ys) port.

Did FFXV get any price cuts yet? It probably will end up the best selling FF game on steam after all is said and done.
It was already 50% off in the summer sale, which is the maximum discount any FF game has ever received on Steam.

I doubt it will get up that high (maybe another 100-150K), unless the modding scene goes crazy and/or they reduce the base price later on.
 
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CrichtonKicks

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,141
Evil Within 2 not even on the list. Means it sold less than 237k on Steam. Damn it must've sold way less that I thought, and I knew it did bad. At least Sebastian's story had a satisfactory ending, so I wouldn't be that sad about it being the final entry (which it probably is).

Again, this is players, not sales. It won't count anyone who hasn't installed/launched the game and, correct me if I'm wrong, it may not count if if you haven't played to the first achievement.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,686
Devil Halton's Trap
Why did cold steel 2 sell like trash
Those are good sales for a company as small as XSEED (now at 20 employees according to one of their editors). Falcom's basically getting free money and incentive to do more of these ports so long as XSEED's profiting from these releases, building up a stronger fanbase every year.

XSeeds discounts were also strange. During this summer sale TiTS3 was 25% off, Cold Steel 1 was 30% off.
Nothing strange about this. 3rd came out just before CS PC and can turn off some players who beat SC but see the game as more of a fandisk-type experience than something essential. What's strange is the lack of bundle deals after all this time. That's something we need to remind XSEED to hunker down and get done, assuming that getting some done ASAP will make future bundles easier to submit.

But Ys 8 and Xanadu show what happens when you go too high, especially when you turn out a boring (Xanadu) or absolute garbage (Ys) port.
To clarify, you mean Tokyo Xanadu? I'm nitpicking because I hate to see people now refer to that as the main "Xanadu" game of note when it bears no relation to Xanadu Next aside from the name. Xanadu Next should have done much better, too, but a bumpy launch and poor release timing/marketing hurt it.
 

Sei

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Oct 28, 2017
5,702
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Saint-14

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
14,477
It was already 50% off in the summer sale, which is the maximum discount any FF game has ever received on Steam.

I doubt it will get up that high (maybe another 100-150K), unless the modding scene goes crazy and/or they reduce the base price later on.
It's definitely going over a million, just wait till clearance bin price.
 

ASaiyan

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,228
It's amazing to think that after all these years TF2 is still the #1 game on Steam. L4D2 is higher up than I thought as well. Guess Valve really doesn't need to count to three, lol.

EDIT: Looking down the full list, we have confirmation Undertale has sold over 3.5 million on Steam alone. Damn Toby! Boy is definitely a millionaire now.
 

okay

Member
Oct 25, 2017
589
It's amazing to think that after all these years TF2 is still the #1 game on Steam. L4D2 is higher up than I thought as well. Guess Valve really doesn't need to count to three, lol.
L4D2 had a promo where it was free to own a couple Christmas's ago. Payday 2 did the same thing not too long ago.
 

Adam_Roman

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,065
So these are numbers tracked just by which accounts have at least 1 achievement unlocked from a game, right? If so, I wonder if it factors steam family sharing or if that's an insignificant enough number of users.
 

Risev

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,399
Again, this is players, not sales. It won't count anyone who hasn't installed/launched the game and, correct me if I'm wrong, it may not count if if you haven't played to the first achievement.
Yeah, but that applies to all games, no? And compared to Evil Within 1, it must have sold way less. For all we know, maybe the difference in sales between EW 1 and 2 may be larger than what is shown.

Either way, even if it sold way more than 200k, would a game really be successful enough for a sequel if only that many people even played a few minutes of it compared to the first?
 
Oct 25, 2017
14,741
FFXV has the benefit of still having DLC released for it, so there will be reasons for people to continue buying it, even though it's not getting any cheaper.

People like me who already played it on console, but would rather play all of the DLC on PC when everything is out.