You're asking if I would hire them if I magically found out they're a MAGA shitheel?
Hmmm, let me think...
No.
Hmmm, let me think...
No.
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If you were an employer, would you hire a Trump supporter?
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Yeah that's at will employment. To be fair a lot of people get the two mixed up.
If they're one of those heavily active supporters that causes arguments and creates an uncomfortable environment with other employees, hell no. Also if it's something brought up in an interview I'd probably give him the "we'll give you a call." line.
If they voted for Trump but keeps their political views to themselves, then yes. Although finding a quiet Trump supporter is almost unheard of.
If they voted for Trump but keeps their political views to themselves, then yes. Although finding a quiet Trump supporter is almost unheard of.
For those of you saying "no" in this thread, what would your reaction be if someone was denied a job because they didn't vote for Trump?
I mean, this is an obvious, almost lazy thought experiment, but I can't see you welcoming that with the same fervour.
I mean, this is an obvious, almost lazy thought experiment, but I can't see you welcoming that with the same fervour.
Again with the "just political views". The things Trump and his supporters aspire to goes beyond just a difference of political opinion to a more fundamental question of morality and right and wrong. Things are so polarized now because the disagreements are so fundamental, they've gone beyond just politics. It seems to me you're not considering that idea and I'm not sure you really understood the original post (or the one I quoted).
Your idea of diversity seems to me pretty surface level, like you want diversity simply for the sake of saying you have diversity. You should earnestly evaluate the worthiness of a political view. Not every view is worthy of equal standing among the rest.
You talk about tolerance, but being tolerant towards intolerance is how the intolerant win in the end. The poisoning of society happens when we normalize Trump's actions and desires. At some point you have to take a stand.
Sounds good to me why would I want to work in an environment that is hostile to minorities, they're doing me a hard favor instead of me possibly having to eat shit having to deal with subtle racism. Like how is this even a hard question to answer.
Looking at your posts you're trying so hard to make it seem like both sides are somehow equal, too bad that one side is just such human scum that there isn't really much ground to stand on. Lmao
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I don't think a Trump supporter would have the necessary skills or education to do what we do anyway lol
Not equatable.
Supporting Trump is supporting the rise of facism. Maybe they didn't realise to begin with but it's clear now.
So taking a stand against this any way you can has become necessary.
Discrimination against discrimination is not the same as discrimination. Intolerance to intolerance is not the same as intolerance.
But, guys, what if place didn't hire you because you're not a racist supporter of state kidnapping? What then?!
It's not that much of a hypothetical. Employers routinely do background checks on future employees, and this often involves finding social media profiles.
If I wasn't hired because I chose not to be a racist I would be more than happy to know that that establishment operated with that in mind, they'd be doing me the favor. I would also likely publicly out them for not hiring me because I refused to be a racist.
It has come to the point where if you still support Trump that is a sign of some kind of moral or critical thinking failure on your part. If I magically knew this then no I wouldn't hire you. As those are not things I want in an employee. I wouldn't even feel bad about it because there a groups out there all the Trump supporters I personally know wouldn't even consider hiring.
In reality I live in a red state so I assume most of my employees would be Trump supports to some degree. At that point it would just be a matter of if they can keep any bigoted hateful opinions they might have to themselves or not. As a liberal in a red state I know all about keeping my political opinions to myself at work. Shit gets harder every day though with people bending over backwards to defend fuckboy Trump.
In reality I live in a red state so I assume most of my employees would be Trump supports to some degree. At that point it would just be a matter of if they can keep any bigoted hateful opinions they might have to themselves or not. As a liberal in a red state I know all about keeping my political opinions to myself at work. Shit gets harder every day though with people bending over backwards to defend fuckboy Trump.
I'll ask again: Can you quote me on that?
Considering that non-Trump voters include Hillary voters, Johnson voters, Stein voters, and Republican write-in voters, the reaction would probably be "You dodged a bullet."
Probably not, but not for the reasons some might think. While I could not disagree more with a vote cast for Trump, I cannot write off and claim all that did so as sexist, xenophobic, racist bigots. People aren't nearly so one-dimensional as to be dismissed outright under such premises, and I've known more than a few people (some very close to me) that voted for Trump very begrudgingly and who actively dislike him, but felt like they had no alternative. If I were to say anything about these people, it's that they've sold out their principles for political capital.
So I wouldn't hire someone who's with Trump not due to that fact, but due to the fact that many who hate Trump only view his supporters in this very one-dimensional mindframe, which is going to create incredible discord in the workplace if it ever came out into the open.
So I wouldn't hire someone who's with Trump not due to that fact, but due to the fact that many who hate Trump only view his supporters in this very one-dimensional mindframe, which is going to create incredible discord in the workplace if it ever came out into the open.
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That'd be pretty tough unless it's a solo job. Most jobs require working with others and how well they would work with the rest of the team.
Unless the rest of the team are straight white men that kinda rules out a Trump supporter ever being "best person for the job."
Unless my bank account is $0 and rent is due, why would I be upset that I was denied work from my would be Trump supporting manager?
That would be a waste of money and everyone's time, especially your own.
If there was a British equivalent to a Trump supporter applying to my agency and they were vocal supporters, I'd have to weigh it up. It's important that person has the moral integrity to uphold the values and contribute to the culture of my company, without making others in the company feel unsafe. I'm not sure anyone that supports Trump has integrity. I wouldn't hire neo-Nazis or BNP supporters for the same reason.
I would not want to work for someone who is a Trump supporter so no sweat off my back.
I find it interesting that people readily equate Trump supporters with Nazis, racists, and idiots, rather than , say, the disenfranchised and ignored working classes .
Most people try not to talk about politics at work and go about their day. I'm sure where I work now there are Trump supporters, but no one talks about politics and we all get along.
I find it interesting that after two years of evidence that you're still in denial
It isn't much of a thought experiment tbh, they are not equitable things. Of course if someone is denied a job for not being a nazi that would be a bad thing.
You're gonna double down?
I'm part of the disenfranchised working class, a lot of us probably are, and I've never had a gun to my head with someone forcing me to be a racist, they made their choice.
It's really interesting that some people are comfortable ignoring incidents like charlottesville, many of the racists hirings Trump did for his administration, ignoring immigrant children torn from their families, ignoring the muslim travel ban, ignoring the wall rhetoric, ignoring Trump remarks about Mexican and pussy grabs(list could go on for way longer) rather than say own up to what they're actually supporting.
Yup. I could almost buy this reasoning for voting for Trump initially. But if after two years plus and they are still happily supporting them, it's not about economic anxiety lol. You don't wear a MAGA hat for any other reason than you want people to know you're a shitheel, for example, and want to make minorities uncomfortable.
So anyway it would depend. First I would absolutely hire a Republican. I may disagree with them, but I'm not going to make too many judgements about them. If I look on their social media and they are wearing a MAGA hat or posting the kind of shit my Trump supporting family members do, then fuck no. These people are full of hate and don't even believe in facts.
I mean, the first thing I would do if I were economically anxious is build interment camps and fill them with kidnapped brown children. It's only natural!
Given the one-dimensional view many in this thread seem to have of people who pulled the lever for Trump, you'd think so. And yet, I remember the morning after the 2016 elections how shellshocked many Americans were since Trump trailing Hillary was practically the universal consensus in the weeks beforehand. And yet, he suddenly won the electoral college. It's almost as if there were large numbers of people who didn't wear their politics on their sleeve and didn't go around announcing their political leanings to everyone, yet voted R when nobody was paying attention.
If it's true that there are barely any Trump voters who keep their politics to themselves, why was 2016 such a shock to everybody?
They are either nazis/racist or they don't give a single iota of a fuck about nazi/fascist ideology being in the forefront of their preferred political party, which doesn't make them much better.
I'm having issues finding my place in society. I don't put the blame on immigrants, refugees and people of different skin colour, faith, sexuality etc. In this day and age you need to be willfully ignorant if you "don't know" about some facts of life, which, again, doesn't really portray you in a positive light either.
I mean Trump supporters are naturally toxic human beings, why would I want a toxic person contaminating my workplace?
There are most definitely silent Trump supporters. But there certainly was more back then. Two years of Trump, it's like Trump is normalized now. They feel like they don't have to be shy about racist thoughts and feelings any longer since the president is broadcasting it out in the open. I've met one. My Sister's friend. She has never said she voted for Trump but it's plain as day she supports him. The rest are proud to support Trump, mostly for sticking it to the illegals and Blacks.
Absolutely not. It ain't politics anymore -- it's about people willfully enabling more powerful people who actively hurt others en masse every single day. If you're still hitched to that wagon after all this time, I find you morally reprehensible (or, at best, incapable of understanding basic reality) and don't want you in my workplace or life.
I would only employ a specific type of anti-revisionist Tankie with a scent of Titoist market socialism which would end up being only me.
I worked with a dude who I later found out that was a trump supporter. Super nice guy but it's one of those things makes you question everything.
Not sure where he stands on Trump now, this was early on.
Not sure where he stands on Trump now, this was early on.
For the both sides people:
Candidate: "well I believe you and your family should be detained and kicked the hell out of my country"
Me: "thats an interesting thought. Agree to disagree I guess :) <3"
Yeah... no. I would not hire a trump supporter.
Candidate: "well I believe you and your family should be detained and kicked the hell out of my country"
Me: "thats an interesting thought. Agree to disagree I guess :) <3"
Yeah... no. I would not hire a trump supporter.
XD sadly true there's always that one person that makes you lose all hope in humanity :P
Ideally this wouldnt come up in a work interview.
Thereafter it would depend on their support of trump and one what policies etc I know republicans who are one issues voters on abortion or gun rights.
So yes, I probably would hire. But if the person is the alt right nazi type who will create workplace racial,sexist etc issues no.
Otherwise, if they keep politics out of work and their workplace interactions and arent nazi racist etc types I would hire them.
And before the inevitable all trump supporters are racist/sexist etc I dont think that necessarily true but do understand its the minority opinion here. Some ppl just choose republican due to certain specific issues.
Thereafter it would depend on their support of trump and one what policies etc I know republicans who are one issues voters on abortion or gun rights.
So yes, I probably would hire. But if the person is the alt right nazi type who will create workplace racial,sexist etc issues no.
Otherwise, if they keep politics out of work and their workplace interactions and arent nazi racist etc types I would hire them.
And before the inevitable all trump supporters are racist/sexist etc I dont think that necessarily true but do understand its the minority opinion here. Some ppl just choose republican due to certain specific issues.
