So long as we don't have numbers, it's not fair to just say "I'm sure most didn't get it for free because modding" and end it there. Besides, Skyrim SE's initial mod support wasn't great, but most mods are getting ported and it allows for even better mods longer down the road.
Might be wrong on my part, but as I said in my edited post, Skyrim SE is selling more than Fallout 4 GOTY and Fallout 4 separately, but it's very likely that Fallout 4 + Fallout 4 GOTY are selling more combined than Skyrim SE. We don't have accurate weekly numbers but the ranking on the best selling list makes this likely, hence Fallout 4 is closing the gap if so.Your statement has the same weight as my statement, because you have no proof that the majority of Skyrim's owners upgraded to SE. I'm sure a lot of them did, but it doesn't mean they're the majority of those 4.4 million people who got achievments in SE. AFAIK, old steamspy had a higher amount of owners of Skyrim SE -- 5-6 million-- and it seems likely that the difference is the old Skyrim owners who just download Skyrim SE "for free" without earning a single achievement.
I mean, Skyrim SE is literally selling well. I don't know why you're talking like the majority of Skyrim SE's owners must be the old skyrim owners when right now Skyrim SE is outselling Fallout 4 on steam.
For Fallout 4 to catch up it must consistently outselling Skyrim by a lot, which doesn't seem likely, especially with the upcoming release of Fallout 76.
Damn. Less than 800 copies for ch 6? I know its niche and came out fairly recently, but still....
Absolutely. They mentioned major paperwork hurdles last time the subject really got brought up to them, so I hope this won't be as much of an issue if they push for it again.
Ain't gonna let you finish because this is bullshit. SteamSpy had considerably higher owners estimates for Falcom games on Steam before the initial death. For example: Trails FC sits at almost 258k players according to these recent numbers, but the old owners number hovered around 300k. We've preserved some of these estimates via periodic SteamSpy threads in the past.
The 'leak' is via achievement data. Rimworld has no achievements.
Shouldn't have to, but I install stuff on my PC all the time, so it isn't the most onerous thing.
Or that a lot of people that spend a lot of time playing games on Steam don't have a lot of disposable income but a lot of time, so they just play the older games instead of buying new ones.
I'm guessing that with in a year Yakuza 0 will do over 300k+, VC4 I can see also doing about 300k+ or so, Shenmue will likely be closer to 200k, and Shining may only see 100k+
These are some real bullish estimates. Shining hitting a 100k would take a miracle. I doubt Shenmue goes anywhere near 200k either without big price cuts.
Today I finished the first Call of Duty (released in 2003) for the first time. The beauty of PC gaming is being able to play whatever you want whenever you feel like it, no matter how old.
That on the other hand seems way too high. The biggest VR title on the list (that costs money) is Job Simulator, and that was bundled with the Vive for a long time, and it's at 200k, both in the CSV and the barter.vg site, so H3VR selling 500k would be, whilst amazing, pretty headscratching too. I'm just going to chalk it down to H3VR's weird handling of achievements.
I don't think it's that surprising given it's the 6th episode of a niche game. It would be interesting to compare it to the original Higurashi's release by MG.
Companions' personal quests are worse, but the companions themselves are waaay more reactive than PoE1's companions, some of them even leave if they disagree with your choices.
and the 8 million on xbox is really just 4 people game sharing
I feel like a lot of it has to do with the series itself, I remember that Falcom said that each of the Ys games sell typically over 100k each in the west, which is pretty bad when you think about how other JRPGs that have been around as long as Ys has will easily do over 1 million in the US alone (this mainly applies to Final Fantasy) and 100k is a rather standard number for JRPGs on Steam that are not Falcom games.
Isn't that what typically happens with some of these older SEGA ports? Or actually you are right I did not take into consideration that Shining and Shenmue are being released along side the console version and thus using the same discounts, okay Shining at 70k+ and Shenmue at 100k+ assuming that 30% off is the max discount that they get. I will be back in 1 year to check if I was wrong
Most FFXIV pc players aren't on steam.
Remind me to never listen to you again.
