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What kind of battery option do you prefer in controllers?

  • Non-removable batteries

    Votes: 1,043 52.0%
  • Removable AA/lithium-ion pack

    Votes: 964 48.0%

  • Total voters
    2,007

Willy

Member
Oct 27, 2017
296
I can't think of a single advantage to having non-removable batteries so I vastly prefer removable ones.
 

Shogun

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,435
Removable because a wireless controller should stay wireless.

The amount of comments about ''faffing/fussing around for batteries'' is just plain fucking weird. Like do you throw them about and shit?

The fact that the title puts it as PS4 v Xbox will ruin any poll regardless.
 

Andri

Member
Mar 20, 2018
6,017
Switzerland
A long time ago I used to prefer non-removable batteries for controllers because I thought dealing with buying new AA batteries and swapping them out seemed a bit tedious.

Then I discovered eneloops and never looked back. I've never actually logged how many hours I get on a single charge, but I feel I'm easily getting more than double the battery life with eneloops in an Xbox One controller than I do with a Dualshock 4. Maybe this is more of an issue with the battery in the DS4, but I'm always annoyed how quick it loses charge. I heard the Switch Pro controller is much better in that regard, though I don't own that. I do like with Eneloops and having 2 pairs of batteries, when the battery does die, I can put in the other and keep using it wirelessly without needing to hook up a USB cable to the controller.

I used to use a XB1 pad with AAs for PC gaming, but since i have a switch i only use the pro controller on my PC.
I managed to play through AC Origins(about 80h) only having to charge the thing once.

If Nintendo would make a Pro controller that can easily replace the Battery it would be perfect.(its already pretty easy to replace, since you just need a screwdriver, but they could make a latch for it)
 

Cabal

Drive-in Mutant
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,347
United States
I don't understand how this is an argument. Ok that's not true, I do, but I sense a lot of you that have voted non-removable have never owmed some high capacity eneloops before.

I literally go weeks without charging my xbox one controller batteries. God forbid, I forget to plug in my DS4 after playing. Non-removable batteries suck, not to mention the dual shock is trash after the battery goes out. If you don't think it's a big deal, try finding a real Dual Shock 3 for sale these days. My 360/xbox one controllers will always be ready to go with a fresh pair of eneloops
 

Crayon

Member
Oct 26, 2017
15,580
It's annoying to mess with aa batteries. But I wish built in lithium batteries were easier to upgrade. That would be the best of both worlds. I find the ds4 short battery life very annoying. Yet I haven't bothered to bump up the capacity because it's a little fuss. They should make it easy enough. Like changing the hdd.
 

Xiofire

Prophet of Regret
Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,140
Removable.

After hearing about people finding their PSPs with bulging batteries, I have major anxiety I'm going to come back to my PS3/PS4 controllers in the future and find them totally unusable.
 

Jawmuncher

Crisis Dino
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
38,527
Ibis Island
Removeable Batteries are nice. Especially if you get some eneloops. I thought those things were a joke, but after buying them. The hype is indeed real on those.

The major benefit to already put-in batteries is that you don't need to go through extra effort for a charge station which is nice. Since that also keeps the cost down too.
 

Sanctuary

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,238
If the USB port wasn't prone for failure long before the rest of the controller, I'd say non-removable, but the USB charge port for the PS4 controllers is crap, especially if you regularly use it for actually connecting the controller instead of always using bluetooth. I don't care for the extra weight replaceable batteries add, but the controllers aren't as likely to die on you (or require an alternate means to charge them). Rechargeable batteries are cheap too.

Removeable Batteries are nice. Especially if you get some eneloops. I thought those things were a joke, but after buying them. The hype is indeed real on those.

The major benefit to already put-in batteries is that you don't need to go through extra effort for a charge station which is nice. Since that also keeps the cost down too.

I have my same four pack that I've had since 2012 and they are still going strong. I actually bought them for the Wii Motion Plus controller I was regularly using too. It was getting old having to actually replace them weekly.

About the charge station though; that's actually what I am going to have to buy unless I just want to buy a new, secondary PS4 controller...
 
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Feb 17, 2018
85
Much prefer built in batteries and just plugging my controller in rather than fussing about removing a battery cover and inserting rechargeable batteries. I mean making sure you have a supply of batteries ready charged doesn't seem any more or less convenient to me. I understand obviously you can effectively recharge instantly.. but I guess most of us have at least two controllers for our consoles so we just keep one charging while using the other one and swap them.

Of course the battery life of the DS4 is shocking when coming from the PS3. And this is me talking about the more up to date ones with seemingly better life than the launch controllers.. yeah the battery life is inexcusable and I do pretty much have to plug my controllers in after even just a couple days of use.

Never running out of batteries is extremely convenient. I don't know about you but I have a lot of devices that need batteries. Would be a nightmare if I had to charge them all individually. I would have a drawer full of rechargeable batteries regardless.
 

TCG276

Member
Dec 17, 2017
520
I would prefer a non-removalable, but only if it it's easy enough to replace without having to buy a new controller, and lasts at least 20 or more hours.

That being said, I don't mind using batteries. If what I've heard about the dual shocks battery life Is true I'm glad I don't have a PS4. I swap the batteries in my Xbox controller once every 2 weeks or so.
 

Andri

Member
Mar 20, 2018
6,017
Switzerland
I don't understand how this is an argument. Ok that's not true, I do, but I sense a lot of you that have voted non-removable have never owmed some high capacity eneloops before.

I literally go weeks without charging my xbox one controller batteries. God forbid, I forget to plug in my DS4 after playing. Non-removable batteries suck, not to mention the dual shock is trash after the battery goes out. If you don't think it's a big deal, try finding a real Dual Shock 3 for sale these days. My 360/xbox one controllers will always be ready to go with a fresh pair of eneloops

People who vote non removable are the people who dont vote for the actual options, but rather see this as a XB1 vs pS4 poll, adn thus vote for PS4,even if it is objectively worse.

Also kinda stupid to have DS4 as the controller representing Non removable batteries, since the Nintendo ones are so much better at doing the same thing(4-8 times the battery life, depending on WiiU or Switch).
 

Altera

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
1,963
Non-removable 100%.

Only way I'd prefer removable is if they were removable and rechargeable as well as included with the controller. AKA having to buy a play and charge kit is a joke.
 

HardRojo

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,145
Peru
Non-removable. I don't really have an issue with the battery life of Dualshock 4 controllers, but if we can get even better battery life on other controllers then I'm all for it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
8,115
I prefer non-removable batteries for their ease of use. Even though DualShock 4's battery life is miserable compared to Nintendo's Pro Controller, I'm ok with it since I hardly ever play so many hours continuously that I have to tether the controller. And when I'm done with my gaming session, I just place my controller on the charging station and it's ready to go the next time I play.

If I played more than 6 hours a day, I would probably prefer removable batteries.
 

tmarg

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,694
Kalamazoo
Rechargable AA/AAAs used to suck, and I was firmly on team Non-removable, but Eneloops exist now, and it's extremely easy and cheap to have a stash of fully charged batteries that last almost as long as a disposable, so I have switched sides.
 

Riderz1337

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,913
Non removable. Too much fuss having to take out batteries/recharge old batteries/buy new ones.

Just plug the controller into my playstation while I'm not using it and I'm good to go every gaming session.
 

TCG276

Member
Dec 17, 2017
520
All the people in this thread saying it's a huge hassle to swap batteries once or twice a month are on some serious hyperbole! And I don't see how having a controller that gives you the option to do both is considered ancient tech? That being said, Xbox should absolutely come with a play and charge kit!

Having to game with an overly long micro USB cable, just because you forgot to plug it in the night before, seems way more inconvenient than swapping batteries to me.
 

Crayon

Member
Oct 26, 2017
15,580
I should get off my ass and upgrade the battery in my ds4 tho. The short life really is obnoxious.
 

Cabal

Drive-in Mutant
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,347
United States
People who vote non removable are the people who dont vote for the actual options, but rather see this as a XB1 vs pS4 poll, adn thus vote for PS4,even if it is objectively worse.

Also kinda stupid to have DS4 as the controller representing Non removable batteries, since the Nintendo ones are so much better at doing the same thing(4-8 times the battery life, depending on WiiU or Switch).
I changed my eneloops (high capacity) about 2 weeks ago and since played through all of Resident Evil 7 Gold Edition and about 40 games of Overwatch. I probably am only halfway through a charge. The DS4 has the worst battery life of a controller that could be out there. If people are platform voting then at least I can kind of understand why the vote is even close...
 

Jimnymebob

Member
Oct 26, 2017
19,639
I have eneloops, so removable.
You can use the Xbox One controller wired if the batteries are out and charging, so why wouldn't it be the ideal solution?

You have to spend 5 seconds swapping them out, but they'll hold charge longer, and last for longer. Unlike PS4 controllers which hold charge for like under 5 hours after a couple of years.
 

Kongroo

Avenger
Oct 31, 2017
2,950
Ottawa, Ontario, CA
It's incredibly disturbing to me that cutting edge battery technology in a standardized form-factor is considered "holy shit insanely old" whereas a lower energy density, lower recharger rated battery in a proprietary form-factor is somehow "cutting edge and modern".
It's such a step backwards for everything to think that less powerful & proprietary = modern and high density & open standard = shitty and old

Lmao battery advocates in 2018. Next you'll be telling me that the OG gameboy advance was better than the SP
 

senj

Member
Nov 6, 2017
4,438
Back of the napkin math:

Assume a DualShock 4 gets 6 hours of playtime, a Switch Pro controller gets 40 playtime, and a Wii U Pro controller 80 hours of playtime

Given the capacity of their non-removable batteries (1000 mAh for the DS3, 1300 mAh for the other two), if each of these controllers took 2 AA batteries, then with current generation Eneloops (4000 mAh) you would get:

24 hours of playtime with a DualShock 4, 123.2 hours of playtime on the Switch Pro controller, and 246.4 hours of playtime on the Wii U Pro Controller
 

MesaEterna

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 28, 2017
906
Dualshock 4 is a terrible example of non removable batteries, it's a joke that it lasts so little.
Switch Pro Controller lasts for 40 hours so I don't have charge it every time.
I don't like having AA batteries rolling everywhere and they're toxic so batteries like the Switch Pro are the best for me.
 

Jimnymebob

Member
Oct 26, 2017
19,639
To put into perspective, I got my Xbox One in January, and after the batteries that came with it ran out, I've charged my eneloops twice in 6 months.
 

R dott B

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,136
Non removable if the battery life is like the Switch Pro but if the life is like the DS4 nope.
 

senj

Member
Nov 6, 2017
4,438
Lmao battery advocates in 2018. Next you'll be telling me that the OG gameboy advance was better than the SP
What do you think a DualShock 4 uses for power my man, the goodwill of small children? It's all batteries. The only question is if you want a tiny piss-poor battery in a proprietary shape only made by one company, or a beefier battery in a standard shape you can replace at will.

But go off I guess.
 

headspawn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,620
People who vote non removable are the people who dont vote for the actual options, but rather see this as a XB1 vs pS4 poll, adn thus vote for PS4,even if it is objectively worse.

Also kinda stupid to have DS4 as the controller representing Non removable batteries, since the Nintendo ones are so much better at doing the same thing(4-8 times the battery life, depending on WiiU or Switch).

The premise of the thread was based on a prospective "Removable AA/lithium-ion pack" option for a PS5 controller.

Highly doubtable that Sony would turn a corner and magically match Nintendo with ~35-40hr battery life. If they could've done it, they would've had it already.

Also, Pro controller has no Analog triggers, so that's an automatic disqualification.
 

senj

Member
Nov 6, 2017
4,438
Dualshock 4 is a terrible example of non removable batteries, it's a joke that it lasts so little.
Switch Pro Controller lasts for 40 hours so I don't have charge it every time.
I don't like having AA batteries rolling everywhere and they're toxic so batteries like the Switch Pro are the best for me.
The Switch Pro battery is a Lithium Ion. Eneloops are NiMH. Neither is very "toxic". LiON is more of a fire-risk, but that's about it.

You're thinking of like, 1980s cadmium batteries.
 

Deleted member 26104

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Oct 30, 2017
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Removable. There are no downsides at all.

Battery runs out of charge you just hot swap.

Battery replacements are cheap, can use excellent rechargeable ones.

Battery won't die and leak inside the controller, ruining the controller.

I'm surprised that almost 400 people, half the people that have voted, prefer for their controller to be at the mercy of a non replaceable battery. Battery dies? Gotta play wired, no other option. How is that better than taking 10 seconds to put in another set of rechargeable batteries? Not to mention that batteries degrade rather quickly, especially if you're one of the people that leave them charging when not in use, leaving you with a controller that needs to be charged every hour or less.

This should be a 95/5 poll imo, it's that obvious which the logically better option is, but I dare say console brand name is playing a huge part here.
 
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TheMadTitan

Member
Oct 27, 2017
27,253
Removable, either with the play and charge kits or AA/AAA batteries. Once I get off my lazy ass, I'm going to buy some higher capacity batteries to swap into my Dual Shock controllers.

You can buy higher capacity li-ion batterie and slot them into the DS4 with no issues.
 

Snake Eater

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Oct 27, 2017
11,385
For those complaining about battery life on non removable.... maybe don't play 6+ hours without getting up to walk around?
 
Dec 21, 2017
5,128
Non-removable 100%. No unnecessary faffing with batteries. They need to improve the battery life though, even though I sit right next to the screen when playing, so I normally have a cable in anyway.

EDIT: literally charge the controller when you're not playing and it's pretty much a non-issue.
Until that battery wears out it's a bitch to replace.

Removable is better.
 

Deleted member 26104

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For those complaining about battery life on non removable.... maybe don't play 6+ hours without getting up to walk around?
This feels like the victim blaming of videogames lol.

EDIT: literally charge the controller when you're not playing and it's pretty much a non-issue.
That's the quickest way to make your batteries life go to shit, so doing so is making the problem even worse ironically.
 

Snake Eater

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This feels like the victim blaming of videogames lol.

I can't think of any other way to put it. It's like people complaining about the battery like of Apple air pods being "only" 4 hours, like someone can't spare 15 minutes to recharge it without using it for 4 straight hours?
 

Deleted member 26104

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Ancient if you're thinking of disposable batteries.

But rechargeable ones that are longer lasting than built-in ones are anything but ancient.
Yeah looks like some people haven't discovered eneloops somehow.

I can't think of any other way to put it. It's like people complaining about the battery like of Apple air pods being "only" 4 hours, like someone can't spare 15 minutes to recharge it without using it for 4 straight hours?

Not all people have the same habits and use cases as yourself. Many people will play games for 8 hours+ straight often. Many people, myself included, will use headphones for roughly 8 hours a day at work, so having to charge earphones twice a day is an unnecessary pain, which is why I dislike and won't buy Bluetooth headphones.

I already have to charge my phone at least every day, sometimes topping up during the day. I have to charge my android wear watch every day. I have to charge my Fitbit every other day. I don't want to have to remember to charge my controller every day too.

Leaving things with batteries charging when not in use is the quickest way to degrade the battery to useless levels too, so you would have to be monitoring the controller and turning it off when it's fully charged if you want to keep it from lasting 15 minutes per charge.
 
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senj

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Nov 6, 2017
4,438
I can't think of any other way to put it. It's like people complaining about the battery like of Apple air pods being "only" 4 hours, like someone can't spare 15 minutes to recharge it without using it for 4 straight hours?
I've got batteries in controllers I haven't had to recharge in months, but that doesn't mean I've been playing for months straight.

You might be missing the point here.
 

Shpeshal Nick

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Oct 25, 2017
7,856
Melbourne, Australia
The most annoying part of this poll is that my guess is, most PS4 fans would gladly switch to the replaceable batteries if Sony switched to them.

Most Xbox fans would be fucking PISSED if Microsoft switched to internal.
 

Chettlar

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,604
Why would anyone want to be stuck with a controller battery that is eventually going to die/requires you to be plugged in at points?