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Username1198

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
8,125
Space, Man
Stretch every morning. I do like a 5 minute stretch that always makes my lower back feel great.

I beleive the one pose is called the snake pose, where you lie flat on your belly, then lift your upper body up with your arms. It feels amazing.

The days I don't stretch I can feel the creaks etc. highly recommended.
 

rpg_fan

Member
Oct 27, 2017
140

Spinal surgery is serious stuff. They won't go to surgery without trying physical therapy or injections first. Assuming you've got a seriously blown out disc of course. If it's just a bulge, they'll prescribe the kinds of exercise that is being recommended here. Also walking, lots and lots of walking.
 

Doom_Bringer

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
3,181
yes, I did. I got sciatica due to workout injury. I was unemployed at the time, couldn't afford expensive medication or therapy. Watched some youtube videos, fixed the problem thanks to yoga. Don't remember what it was called but you lie on your stomach and lift up the upper body using your arms for 30 secs and then rest for 30 secs. I remember I was in pain for 3 or 4 months

sciatica sucks
 

Daxa

Member
Jan 10, 2018
622
See a physio. It's kinda like skincare; there's a lot of largely anecdotal info out there, but save yourself the time and grief and see a professional.

There are plenty of bad physios of course, so see if you can get someone on recommendation.
 

Opto

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,546
I started having lower back pain from sitting in the office chair until I was given an orthopedic seat cushion. There's a hole cut out directly where the spine would be. Haven't noticed any pain since.
 

Kindekuma

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
4,733
I had really bad lower back pain a few years back. Turns out it was a symptom of testicular cancer? After surgeries and treatment by back hasn't really hurt much if at all. Stretching, drinking lots of water, and if needed a heating pad makes everything better.
 

Pwnz

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Oct 28, 2017
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Use multiple types of chairs. I used to get this even when I was super fit in my mid 20s. Stopped when I started working from home half the time. Never in the same chair all day, pain gone.

Think about all of the years prior to working at a desk job: you're never in the same seat for more than 1 hour typically. So if it isn't age or dire fitness, its probably due to virtually every chair being imperfect in some way. Alternate chairs distributes which muscle gets fucked over. Finding the perfect chair is swimming through bullshit marketing, just get a few cheap, acceptable chairs.
 

Beartruck

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,939
Got just the thing for you OP:

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Vautrin

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
936
There is only one answer to fix your problem, I don't know why people list off random shit they think does anything. No a standing desk or drinking more water is not going to help you. You need to foam roll your back muscle and do deadlifts to fix your problem. There's no other answer. After that you can do whatever your heart pleases, do yoga, daily stretches, use a standing desk, use good posture, etc

Edit, to clarify I am talking about chronic back issues from years of bad posture
 
Nov 4, 2017
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There is only one answer to fix your problem, I don't know why people list off random shit they think does anything. No a standing desk or drinking more water is not going to help you. You need to foam roll your back muscle and do deadlifts to fix your problem. There's no other answer. After that you can do whatever your heart pleases, do yoga, daily stretches, use a standing desk, use good posture, etc
Personally, I think it's absolutely crazy to recommend deadlifts to someone with back pain.

It's an ancient exercise, and you can work those muscles in a much less risky way.
 

Stinkles

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,459
I found that good core strength reduced spasms before my surgery but years later I've started having more and more issues even with good core strength and proper posture and work ergonomics.
 

Stinkles

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,459
There is only one answer to fix your problem, I don't know why people list off random shit they think does anything. No a standing desk or drinking more water is not going to help you. You need to foam roll your back muscle and do deadlifts to fix your problem. There's no other answer. After that you can do whatever your heart pleases, do yoga, daily stretches, use a standing desk, use good posture, etc

Edit, to clarify I am talking about chronic back issues from years of bad posture

This is literally the most dangerous advice I've ever seen on the subject. Go see a specialist and get soft tissue examined with MRS before doing anything that requires weights. There are multiple causes of back pain and your specific injury or fault will require specific physical therapy.

Sure it's possible deadlifts might help you but they might also exacerbate the issue depending what and where the pain is. And pain can express itself in places outside of the injury. For example my L4 L5 Saturday and stenosis can cause pain on my right or left hip creeping down either thigh.

Get imaging and specialist opinion.
 

Vautrin

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
936
Personally, I think it's absolutely crazy to recommend deadlifts to someone with back pain.

It's an ancient exercise, and you can work those muscles in a much less risky way.

I mean, why not spend 5 minutes learning how to do a deadlift instead of spending thousand dollars on a chair or buying a desk that won't do anything for you. Can deadlift even without weights. Why are we even wasting time

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brainchild

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Nov 25, 2017
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There are so many potential causes for back related problems, so without seeing a specialist, it would be pretty difficult to diagnose the issue and prescribe proper treatment.

However, fixing your posture is something that people should do anyway, whether or not it actually helps with back pain, so that would be something I would recommend to anyone experiencing back problems, regardless of the cause.

As for treatment for the pain, cannabis is pretty good for just about any kind of pain XD
 
Nov 4, 2017
2,203
I mean, why not spend 5 minutes learning how to do a deadlift instead of spending thousand dollars on a chair or buying a desk that won't do anything for you. Can deadlift even without weights. Why are we even wasting time

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It takes longer than 5 minutes to make sure every rep is done correctly. You probably shouldn't even do it unless you have a training partner or a trainer watching you. If you lose form on any reps, you risk injury.

You don't get any major gains from it for the huge risk you take. You're never supposed to lift things that way, and should push with your legs anyway. You don't get bigger lower back muscles that even look good. It's really a specialist thing just for power lifters or athletes going specifically for strength gains.

Honestly, people can max out their lower back muscles just doing roman chair with no weight at all. I don't see the need to risk it I guess. You said deadlifts with no weight? I mean, sure, that's just bending over and stretching really. Nothing wrong with that.
 

Marjorine

Member
Oct 27, 2017
749
All the suggestions here are good. However, have you looked at your desk chair? You could do all the right things in the world, but if you are susceptible to a bad lower back, your desk chair could undermine all the other positive things you try.

The person above suggesting the Aeron chair? That's some good advice. I have crybabied for a better chair at almost all my workplaces. I feel like if they are paying me so much money, they probably don't want me missing days because my back is f'd because of their $129 Office Max special.
 

Arebours

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,656
Do planks and hollow body holds. Then horizontal rows or pull ups if you are able to.
Fixed my back within a week.
 

bionic77

Member
Oct 25, 2017
30,895
Yoga can be magical for some people.

It got rid of my back pain within a few months.
 

LV426

Member
Nov 14, 2017
274
Yes. Had a dislocated lower spinal disc, dealt with horrendous pain for 6 months. No doctor could give me advice besides really strong pain meds .said fuck it, ate right, used incline walking threadmill, and lost 40 lbs through the next few months. slowly but surely all pain went away. Turns out all that extra weight was making my bludged disc hit my sciaticnerve. Doctor said it was a miracle.
 
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Ether_Snake

Ether_Snake

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
11,306
Thanks for all the recommendations folks, I'll look into a lot of this.

If I stand while doing the dishes, or washing my head in the sink which requires me to bend forward, I really feel my lower back stiffen, it becomes like a rock.

Putting on socks is a pain, like I can't bend properly, and I tend to bend rightward when I have to do so.

I started having lower back pain from sitting in the office chair until I was given an orthopedic seat cushion. There's a hole cut out directly where the spine would be. Haven't noticed any pain since.

Right? That seems obvious, when I'm sitting at work I precisely feel like the bottom of my spine is supporting all my weight, it seems logical that you wouldn't want any pressure there. Your back is straight, your butt serves as cushion, but the spine is essentially being pressed against directly. I'll have to look into that.
 

Zackat

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,021
Physical Therapist. Mine is all gone now. Only comes back occasionally, and when it does it is brief.
 

Phonzo

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,817
Some years ago I started having lower back pains. They disappeared as I started running and exercising again. If you work behind a desk as I do, it's very important to do some physical activities along.
this is really there is all to it. I had lower back pains when i was overweight, but once i started losing weight, walking/jogging daily, doing light cardio and just getting off your butt, i rarely get it anymore.
 

Svadhyaya

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
1,125
Stretch every morning. I do like a 5 minute stretch that always makes my lower back feel great.

I beleive the one pose is called the snake pose, where you lie flat on your belly, then lift your upper body up with your arms. It feels amazing.

The days I don't stretch I can feel the creaks etc. highly recommended.

Cobra pose.

Do Yoga OP. A physical therapist will recommend poses from yoga. It's more or less renewed my life, mentally and physically. Find a beginners class and try it out.
 

Wag

Member
Nov 3, 2017
11,638
I'm having a lower lumbar fusion very soon. I hope it helps. I'm terrified.
 

JCX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
795
Losing weight and weightlifting helped my lower back pain immensely.
 

EdibleKnife

Member
Oct 29, 2017
7,723
Nope. I have a flat back condition. The permanent fix is a surgery to induce a curve in my spine. I did do a rhizotomy to kill the nerves in the area but it only lasts for a handful of months and needs to be repeated and reduced a level 8 pain to around 5. I have sickle cell and get prescribed painkillers anyway so those have been the solution I'm focused on until I'm in a place to actually get a surgery.
 

ReginOfFire

Member
Oct 29, 2017
3,122
Spinal surgery is serious stuff. They won't go to surgery without trying physical therapy or injections first. Assuming you've got a seriously blown out disc of course. If it's just a bulge, they'll prescribe the kinds of exercise that is being recommended here. Also walking, lots and lots of walking.

How serious we talking here?
 

HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,688
I overpronate bad and not even in soles, exercises and weight loss completely remedied my back pain. It's miserable.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,859
USA, Sol 3, Universe 1
Got just the thing for you OP:

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I've said it many times, in many places, but the one thing that cures what ails me is the big red 2-ton concrete ball at the front of Target. I fall on it like homer and his Spine-O-Cylinder and my pain is replaced by a gentle numbness and I am good for 2 weeks.
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You can be as gentle or rough as you want too. Might as well try it.

Other than that though, I also use a PVC roller but only for my upper back pain (never use those on the lower back!). Sometimes when the pain or kink is near the top, I just ask for my sister to step on me. That also does the trick.
 
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matrix-cat

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,284
Weightlifting and losing a lot of body weight has been incredibly helpful for me. A few years ago I was way overweight and had pretty serious back pain (due to a slipped disc) and knee pain (Osgood Schlatter). I started lifting weights and eating better and lost 50kg (110lbs), and over time my knee pain all but disappeared and my back pain is a whole lot better. I mean, it's no miracle cure, probably quite the opposite since it means a lot of work over a long time (and it's not like the pain is completely gone), but it's definitely helped.

Specifically, I think the exercises that have helped my lower back the most are squats, deadlifts and barbell hip thrusts, for which you can find any number of how-to videos on Youtube. I find conventional deadlifts pretty hard on my back, so I do sumo deadlifts. The goal is not only to strengthen the weak part of your back, but to strengthen everything around it and essentially relearn how to hold yourself and, y'know, do things. Just be smart about it and go very slowly; start with very light weights (or none at all), film yourself to make sure you're doing it right, don't increase the weight until you're confident you can do it without your form breaking down.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,646
Short term: get something like this and wear for a little while at home https://www.amazon.com/MEDiBrace-Discomfort-Sciatica-Backache-Prevention/dp/B06WWHPH84/
Midterm: Get a memory foam mattress topper (about 3" thick or more). This will make a huge difference in comfort / support when you sleep.
Long term: You are going to have to force yourself to exercise more to improve strength around your core. Until you can dedicate more time to that, start by doing more mild stretching to improve your flexibility.

As always though, if you consistently feel any particular pains it's better to seek help from a medical professional than rely on ERA.
 

big_z

Member
Nov 2, 2017
7,799
I have my own back pain issue but it's in the upper back, centered between the lower area of the shoulder blades if that makes sense. Sometimes I wake up with it so I though it was a mattress thing but I've tried a bunch of new ones and the floor but there's no change. Sometimes its there, sometimes its not. One thing that is fairly consistent is when I sneeze it hurts quiet a bit directly in that area. Anyone experience back pain like this and have an idea what to do?
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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I work a desk job, my lower back hurts, it felt worst years ago but the pain never really goes away. I even heard a snap a few days ago and it hurt like hell for a while, when I was doing leg presses.

Anyone had actual success at fixing this? Desk jobs are really horrible for our backs:/

It's not just desk jobs. I worked manual labor through my 20's and my lower back is utterly fucked. You don't really meet people who "used to" have lower back pain. For me personally the doctor says that I have damage to a group of lower back muscles. It doesn't affect my core strength; when I last was into lifting a few years back I could deadlift over 600 pounds pretty easily. Warm baths and stretching helps. Also keep your weight down, added weight adds stress on the lower back.

Best of luck.
 

golguin

Member
Oct 29, 2017
3,759
Do stretches that improve and workout your posture. I had lower back pain with shooting sharp pains. I did a variety of exercises recommended by my doctor and youtube videos and the shooting pain went away in 2 weeks. Posture is key and putting pillows or fancy things that make you sit up straight are key.
 

ZackieChan

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,056
When push out my lower abs I can do a satisfying lower back pop that feels great for hours (then can do it again). Not knowledgeable at all about chiropractic stuff though so take this with a grain of salt lol.
I do this by elongating my spine. That pop...

For the OP, gentle stretching, ab work, and lots of Thai massage helped me. It used to hurt me to get out of bed (herniated disc, I think), but now I feel great 95% of the time. If I sit wrong or with bad posture for too long, it'll bother me.
 

ameleco

The Fallen
Nov 2, 2017
975
I've got mild kyphoscoliosis and have been going to PT for awhile now and my back feels so much better!
Glutes: These guys are amazing and really easy to work out.
Abs: obv amazing too
Upper back mobility: A lot of people think that lower back pain is caused by the lower back which is true, but, if you have a stiff upper back, your lower back needs to compensate and move more because it is the part that can move a lot. You need to do what a lot of people suggested already and stretch (and potentially strengthen as well) the upper back. This will free up the lower back during movements and take some of the load off in addition to the glutes and abs.

Anyways, I'm not an expert, but I think I did a decent job at parroting my PT's wisdom and these are the basics of what I've been doing and it works for me.
 

johan

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,554
I had real bad back pain for a while and went to see a physiotherapist. He fixed up my back over the course of a few sessions and told me to get glasses because, surprise, my back pain came from bad posture while doing using my laptop. The glasses improve my posture because they make me hunch over less. He also told me make sure to exercise, preferably running or walking. Short standing breaks every 20/30 minutes or so are also good.

Now I run and do yoga and wear my glasses when working. No pain. At worst I get a stiff back when I make long hours. I would like to get a standing desk too at some point.

tl;dr: go see a physio therapist
 

lunchtoast

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,624
The YRG yoga videos helps when I get lower back pain. Lots of emphasis on stretching your spine out.
 

rpg_fan

Member
Oct 27, 2017
140
How serious we talking here?

It is spinal surgery after all. Assuming that you need a disc worked on, the doctor will discuss it with you.

Yes, it's a very common surgery, but it's still an invasive process. But you don't even know yet if that's even an option until you see a doctor about it. They don't just go straight to the most complicated option at the start unless there's something seriously wrong.

Exercise will alleviate things for the vast majority of people. Surgery is more to correct problems of function rather than for pain.
 

ReginOfFire

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Oct 29, 2017
3,122
It is spinal surgery after all. Assuming that you need a disc worked on, the doctor will discuss it with you.

Yes, it's a very common surgery, but it's still an invasive process. But you don't even know yet if that's even an option until you see a doctor about it. They don't just go straight to the most complicated option at the start unless there's something seriously wrong.

Exercise will alleviate things for the vast majority of people. Surgery is more to correct problems of function rather than for pain.

I can hardly lift anymore :( My body feels like my back is falling off
 

DeltaRed

Member
Apr 27, 2018
5,746
There is only one answer to fix your problem, I don't know why people list off random shit they think does anything. No a standing desk or drinking more water is not going to help you. You need to foam roll your back muscle and do deadlifts to fix your problem. There's no other answer. After that you can do whatever your heart pleases, do yoga, daily stretches, use a standing desk, use good posture, etc

Edit, to clarify I am talking about chronic back issues from years of bad posture
Do not listen to this guy, there are plenty of options.