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Paganmoon

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Oct 26, 2017
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It wasn't his totem, so it spinning doesn't mean much. It was his wife's. His totem, we can speculate, was his wedding band.

Right?
I think the general idea is that it just doesn't matter to Cobb anymore, he's with his children, and he doesn't care if it's a dream or real. Or rather, he doesn't want to know, cause that would potentially ruin it for him.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Luke already learned about it from observing a Jedi Master using it in A New Hope, and then in the following movie Luke received Jedi training from another Jedi Master. They're not even close to the same thing, as it plays out in Force Awakens is incredibly dumb and would've benefitted from a reworking of the scene (maybe Rey accidentally does it by yelling at the storm trooper to let her go while she is in that state of extreme duress, or something similar).

She had a guy moments earlier forcibly violate her mind, seeing into her thoughts, hopes, fears, dreams and in doing so she was able to push back and see into his. It's not a stretch to say that this raw experience lead her to experiment with it later to get herself free. We call it a Jedi mind trick because we've seen it in past movies but from her perspective she's just doing what she can to get herself free.
 

signal

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Oct 28, 2017
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Why is Serpah's code gold not green like every other machine :think:

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acheron_xl

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This never once made sense to me. Does nobody ever deal with diarrhea in the future? How is scraping your asshole with a seashell anything but painful? Did they go in and rework all the plumbing to allow fucking seashells to pass through them?

Not to mention - in the future, has mankind's colon muscles been so wrecked that they can't push a turd out, it has to be extracted via seashell?
 

chaosaeon

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Oct 26, 2017
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How did Luke Skywalker's lightsaber from ESB that fell into a gas giant, end up in a cantina in a box at the exact random location the main characters in TFA happened to go. Even J.J didn't know and basically wrote all the characters to shrug and go with the scene anyway, lol. smh.
 

Kapten

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Nov 1, 2017
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But it isn't unanswered. You can see Macready's breath.

Doesn't add up.

We can't see it due to the way the light is set up. Plus. When we see one of the infected earlier in the film, in a non-perfect imitation state, the breath is clearly visible from The Thing.
So it wouldn't make sense if a perfect copy doesn't have a breath, while a non-perfect copy does.
 

Arkestry

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Oct 26, 2017
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In Escape from L.A., there's multiple mentions of something that happened with Snake Plissken in Cleveland, but we never learn what it was that had happened there.
If I recall correctly, that was a sort of in-joke from Carpenter, and at some point he wanted to make Escape From Cleveland?

I think my favourite unanswered question is whether Nora's story at the end of Leftovers is real or not, although given, that's tv not film. But unanswered questions at the end of tv shows are far more rare, I think.
 

Vern

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Oct 26, 2017
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In ghost dog: the way of the samurai, if pearline is really a kid, why does she like books?
 

DeltaRed

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Apr 27, 2018
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How did Darth Maul know to look for Amidala and co. on Tatooine?
"If the trace was correct I shall discover them quickly master"

Sio Bibble sends them a message and asks them to contact him, Obi-Wan warns them it's a trap. Maybe there's a scene missing where someone replies but it's something along those lines.
 

Bishop89

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Oct 25, 2017
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In The Lost World: Jurassic Park what killed the crew on board the freighter that brought the T-Rex to San Diego?

The T-Rex was sedated and locked below deck until it crashed. Everyone above was killed to the point of having severed hands.

How?
you can assume that raptors boarded the ship just as it was about to head off, killing the crew before heading back onto the island.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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"If the trace was correct I shall discover them quickly master"

Sio Bibble sends them a message and asks them to contact him, Obi-Wan warns them it's a trap. Maybe there's a scene missing where someone replies but it's something along those lines.
In the years between episode 1 and 2 I believed it meant someone betrayed them by sending a communication despite Qui Gon telling them not to. But that never panned out.
 

CloudWolf

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Oct 26, 2017
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How did the legend of what Luke did at Crait in The Last Jedi ever get all the way to Canto Bright?

In Looper, why did young Joe killing himself lead to old Joe disappearing? Going by the logic of "young Joe kills himself, so old Joe never exists", this action should've broken time and reset the movie. Because if old Joe never existed, he could've never returned to the timeline of young Joe to kill the Rainmaker, so young Joe would never have to kill himself to stop old Joe, so old Joe exists to go back in time to kill the Rainmaker, etc.

And in more Time Travel nonsense: How did Ashton Kutcher convince the prisoner in The Butterfly Effect? The entire movie is about how if you change something in the past, that becomes the new normal. So he goes back in time, cuts a cross in his hand and returns and suddenly the prisoner is convinced? He shouldn't be, because in this "new normal" the cross scar on Kutcher's hand would've been there all along.

How did Luke know he could use telekinesis when he never saw anyone use or was trained to use it?
There are quite a few years between ANH and ESB, if you turned out to have superpowers, wouldn't you experiment with them as well? Maybe somewhere between ANH and Empire he tried to move something with his mind and it worked.

Also, I guess you could make an argument that Obi-Wan's Force Ghost taught him.
 
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JetmanJay

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Nov 1, 2017
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*Blade Runner - Is Deckard a replicant?

I think 2049, to me, confirms that he isn't based on his lack of physical ability, and aging, but stuff Wallace says to him while he's captured implies that he isn't. Ridley Scott says Deckard is a replicant in some drunken interview with the other actors.

* Demolition Man - 3 Sea Shells?

Already mentioned here - but I hope we find out in San Diego in a few weeks:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/io9.gi...co-bell-is-coming-to-comic-con-1827174021/amp

* Alien/Alien Covenant - If David created the xenomorph in other Alien/Aliens movies, then how in the fuck did the crew of the Nostromo landing on LV426 find space jockeys with xenomorph eggs on a ship thousands of years old?

* Seven - What's in the box?
 
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Echo

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Oct 29, 2017
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Mt. Whatever
Valhalla Rising -> Drive -> Only God Forgives

Is it true that One-eye lives on in spirit form and inhabits characters from Refn's movies since? I think I read in an interview that he related the hero aspects of Driver and the Thai police chief to One-Eye, and having gone back to re-watch Valhalla Rising it does have a spiritual kinda ending.
 

Francesco

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Nov 22, 2017
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*Blade Runner - Is Deckard a replicant?

I think 2049, to me, confirms that he isn't based on his lack of physical ability, and aging, but stuff Wallace says to him while he's captured implies that he isn't. Ridley Scott says Deckard is a replicant in some drunken interview with the other actors.
Deckard possibly being a replicant was a thing put in by Scott in the Director's Cut version against everyone's opinion. It's regarded by many, including H Ford, to be an incredibly stupid decision.

In 2049 they never touched on the topic, possibly inferring that the modified ending never actually happened in that universe.
 

JetmanJay

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Nov 1, 2017
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wasnt it Mill's wifes head?

That's assumed but we never see it for sure. I remember seeing it and thinking it was his wife's unborn baby.

Deckard possibly being a replicant was a thing put in by Scott in the Director's Cut version against everyone's opinion. It's regarded by many, including H Ford, to be an incredibly stupid decision.

In 2049 they never touched on the topic, possibly inferring that the modified ending never actually happened in that universe.

Oh yeah, forgot about the Directors Cut fiasco. And didn't Phillip K Dick, somehow mention within the book that Deckard was human?

It wasn't thousands of years old.

Correction - Millions of years old.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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How the hell does Maz have the green lightsaber that Luke lost in Empire Strikes Back?

Who the **** was Snoke?

The entirety of SUCKERPUNCH
 

bawjaws

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Oct 28, 2017
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Book is explained in "Lunar Park" by Ellis. Worth a read, it's a made up self-biographical horror-story.

But in that he explains that when he wrote American Psycho and Bateman it was all intended to be in his head.
I love Lunar Park so much. But I wouldn't take anything in it as gospel, including any explanation of "the author's" other works - the author is the ultimate unreliable narrator and the book is definitely fiction rather then autobiography. It's just BEE fucking with the reader.
 

AYZON

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Oct 29, 2017
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Why didnt the Jedi counsel manage to figure out that Palpatine was the sith lord. They could have saved mace windu... :(
 

SweetVermouth

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Why didn't Dumbledore use time travel and kill Voldemort?

How the hell does Maz have the green lightsaber that Luke lost in Empire Strikes Back?
That lightsaber was blue. And she just randomly found it and even though she said "I'll tell ya later" this question won't be answered because by the time episode 9 comes out nobody will give a shit. Just like the writers.
 

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I love Lunar Park so much. But I wouldn't take anything in it as gospel, including any explanation of "the author's" other works - the author is the ultimate unreliable narrator and the book is definitely fiction rather then autobiography. It's just BEE fucking with the reader.
I'd mix that with the fact that most of his work is in the same universe that has some really surreal elements. I mean if you read The Informers and Glamorama (my favorite love Victors catchphrase "the better you look the more you see.") it makes AP look grounded even if you take it that Patrick was really a killer.
 

Taffer

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Oct 27, 2017
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Oh yeah, forgot about the Directors Cut fiasco. And didn't Phillip K Dick, somehow mention within the book that Deckard was human?

Book Deckard can use the empathy boxes (they're not in the film) which rules him out as a replicant. Robots only care about themselves but human peoples love their electric sheep.
 

ZackieChan

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Oct 27, 2017
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He became an interior decorator
Beaten, but...
His place looked like shit

Luke gets told by a ghost to "Use the Force" and to shoot a laser in tiny hole. Nobody trained him for that.
Eh, he says before the run that he's basically practiced making shots like that back home. Since I saw the movie in 1982 or so, I've always assumed that the Force just makes him focus and clear his mind. The Force doesn't "do" it for him. Not really sure this is the slam dunk that you think it is.
 

DigitalOp

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Nov 16, 2017
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Beaten, but...
His place looked like shit


Eh, he says before the run that he's basically practiced making shots like that back home. Since I saw the movie in 1982 or so, I've always assumed that the Force just makes him focus and clear his mind. The Force doesn't "do" it for him. Not really sure this is the slam dunk that you think it is.

Fair game. What I'm trying to get across is that some mystical force is speaking to a child prodigy. To try and dismantle that concept is just nitpicking in any sense. It doesn't really matter to get the message across.

Anakin was chosen.
Luke was chosen.
Rey was chosen.

It's a fictional hero's story, they all did things that aren't supposed to be possible.
 

bawjaws

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Oct 28, 2017
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I'd mix that with the fact that most of his work is in the same universe that has some really surreal elements. I mean if you read The Informers and Glamorama (my favorite love Victors catchphrase "the better you look the more you see.") it makes AP look grounded even if you take it that Patrick was really a killer.
Fuck yeah, Glamorama is as fucked up as it gets. For my money it's a better book than AP.
 

ZackieChan

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Oct 27, 2017
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Fair game. What I'm trying to get across is that some mystical force is speaking to a child prodigy. To try and dismantle that concept is just nitpicking in any sense. It doesn't really matter to get the message across.

Anakin was chosen.
Luke was chosen.
Rey was chosen.

It's a fictional hero's story, they all did things that aren't supposed to be possible.
Fair enough.
 

sleepInsom

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Oct 27, 2017
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Fair game. What I'm trying to get across is that some mystical force is speaking to a child prodigy. To try and dismantle that concept is just nitpicking in any sense. It doesn't really matter to get the message across.

Anakin was chosen.
Luke was chosen.
Rey was chosen.

It's a fictional hero's story, they all did things that aren't supposed to be possible.

To be fair, if you pick up apart any movie it'll probably fall apart. That doesn't mean you can't scrutinize a film series' internal logic that was intentionally set up while accepting certain inconsistencies as concessions for convenience. Stating that Luke had no training in preparation for making that Death Star shot is factually untrue since he says front and center the shot isn't a big deal since he has "bullseyed womp rats back home". That's a far cry from Rey's handling of the force. Chosen or not, with Luke he's had to struggle and fail for years to become as proficient as Rey has in a span of hours. She's like that alt character in World of Warcraft that starts at level 60 it whatever it is nowadays.
 

DigitalOp

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To be fair, if you pick up apart any movie it'll probably fall apart. That doesn't mean you can't scrutinize a film series' internal logic that was intentionally set up while accepting certain inconsistencies as concessions for convenience. Stating that Luke had no training in preparation for making that Death Star shot is factually untrue since he says front and center the shot isn't a big deal since he has "bullseyed womp rats back home". That's a far cry from Rey's handling of the force. Chosen or not, with Luke he's had to struggle and fail for years to become as proficient as Rey has in a span of hours. She's like that alt character in World of Warcraft that starts at level 60 it whatever it is nowadays.

I understand. I can concede the Death Star shot since I missed that peice of dialogue.

But I do believe people are harping too much on the child prophecy trope. The entire idea of the trope is that such individual is proficient without training or minimum effort.

This is Goku, This is Naruto. Alot of characters fulfill this role. But with Star Wars, there is this inherit effort to disassociate Rey as if she's "too proficient". It's just the same trope, not much difference between other characters.

So when people mention training, esp Luke's Dagobah training... Luke had a few days at most? It wasn't like he got to be at the Jedi council in the prequels. He bails on it to save his friends!

Then when he returns, Yoda tells him that he has to face Vader to truly become a Jedi? You see how choppy that is? It's convenient for the plot. Same as Rey.

As I think about when Rey is held captive, The whole subtext of the film is that the Force has reawakened and chosen another prodigy in a time of need. She's discovering the power and what it all means.

She gets mind probed by someone of Skywalker lineage (the other prodigy in this series) and somehow that force skill can't rub off on her or make a connection?

She's locked up, she has an intense desire to leave her situation. She commands it! Boom, she gets out. It's just a reflection of her gift. Its simply to show how talented she is... Like the character herself is shocked that it works!

But everyone ignores all that context. They are willing to give Luke the benefit of seeing the mind trick performed once and mastering the technique. But they're unable to use any headcanon or imagination to give Rey the same thing.

I really didn't see a difference. It didn't seem all that divergent to me. It was the same trope in the same circumstances it's always portrayed as.