That makes more sense. You can still buy replacement batteries with the new connector, it looks like:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2000mah-3-...202199681239?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10
Either way, it's super simple to replace.
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Controllers: Do you prefer non-removable batteries (PS4) or removable AA/lithium-ion (Xbox)
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/2000mah-3-...202199681239?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10
Either way, it's super simple to replace.
But you can play and charge at the same time, its just that you have the option to do it without having to be tethered to the console by using a second set of batteries. Also your charger shouldn't be getting "so damn hot". So it sounds like you have a defective charger. Either that or this whole story is made up.
OK, this is not an optimal solution for me. I have stipulated that I do not play for more than four hours consecutively (and, on average, far less than that) and always plug in my controller when finished. Why would I want to buy (so now I am paying more money) and maintain (when the PS4 does this for me with no additional effort) multiple separate sets of batteries? Do you see why I do not think the enerloop method is better?
Your suggestion that I am lying is uncivil so no thanks to engaging on that one.
edit: Also the DS4 can be charged by any USB port (so I can plug it into my computer or wall charger or anything). It is not tethered to a console.
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If it's just the connector, I think I'm willing to salvage the old one because I've got one old ds4 and one new one and I'd rather get a two pack somewhere. ...Oh this one even comes in the little hardcase.
Lol look at this review:
"In the description it clearly states this Battery does NOT fit the CUH-ZCT1U. This Battery was supposed to fit the CUH-ZCT2U, the exact model I have. I should have trusted the reviews but I went ahead with the order regardless. Low and behold today I received the Battery and IT'S THE WRONG ONE!!!!! The connector for the ZCT2U is tiny and the ZCT1U is larger. I'm not waisting my time any longer with this hassle. So I cut the wires, spliced the old connector to the new battery and soldered the connections then wrapped. Voila! It works because I had to fix the problem. I shouldn't have had to if they sent the right product or changed the description. Buyers beware."
So is it easy? As you can see... that was a apparently easy task for this guy but he was still annoyed by the whole process. And a lot of people totally couldn't handle transferring the connector. If you look at a cheap cordless phone or similar device, you often find this type of battery in a little access panel, and a label on the product noting what makes a suitable replacement.
That's all I would want out of my controller. Besides, of course, a battery that was big enough to begin with.
I don't think it really matters at this point. I mean, there's one camp of people that enters the debate seeming to think that "AA" and "rechargeable" are mutually exclusive: that "AA" must mean "disposable"!
Yeah that doesn't make any sense at all. If USB was phased out just because "it's 2018" you'd see a very different reaction despite it also being an old and well established standard.
Well I mean lets just be honest, you call them "enerloops" you claim to have some weird charger that heats up the room, and you don't realize you can play and charge at the same time. You have to be able to recognize the whole story sounds a bit fishy.
I mean different strokes for different folks, I find swapping batteries once a week a lot less tedious than having to plug in a device everytime ive finished using it.
Bit fishy huh. Kev has more cred here than you'll ever sniff at.
Yeah, looks like the amazon seller is not reliable. I updated my post with an e-bay link that seems more reliable. https://www.ebay.com/itm/2000mah-3-7V-Replacement-new-Battery-Pack-For-Sony-PS4-Pro-Controller-/2021
In an ideal world all controllers would have battery packs like the Xbox 360/One controllers, but would come with them as a baseline rechargeable that can be replaced should the user want. But this would also not extend the cost of the controller like MS does. Second would/should be an internal with a decent capacity like the DS3/4, but the battery life should be decent enough in most/all circumstances to not vary wildly between games like the DS4 does.
At least the DS4 has a couple of official charging cradles available that let you charge through the bottom ports, making recharging them more convenient.
At least the DS4 has a couple of official charging cradles available that let you charge through the bottom ports, making recharging them more convenient.
The subplot in this thread of people struggling to find a reliable eBay source for replacement DualShock 4 batteries for their specific DualShock 4 revisions (while the things are still current and being manufactured) really doesn't help the "actually replacing the battery is dead easy it won't be an issue years from now" camp.
I have no idea why it seems like the people for removable batteries in this thread are significantly more hostile and accusatory towards the other side.
First, for systems with regular batteries, get a charger and some rechargeable batteries. It's really easy and solves all of your "but I keep needing to buy batteries" problems. Rechargeable batteries are about as good as regular ones now and last plenty long.
I don't really understand, why are so many people voting for non-removable batteries? Is this your first console generation or something? Because dealing with the problems of a dying non-removable battery are a big problem, and it's one that doesn't exist in anything using standard batteries!
Going with non-removable batteries is going for form over function, since it allows things to be made thinner, but that is a bad tradeoff that hurts systems and controllers significantly in the long run. All of these devices with built-in batteries aren't going to be very usable in the future, while anything which uses regular batteries and still works will be. I already have multiple PS3 controllers that can barely hold a charge, and this isn't a problem that Xbox 360 or Wii controllers have! It's the same on handhelds, the DS and PSP, and their successors, will have problems that no older, AA battery-using handheld could. I have a few original model DSes and their battery lives are pretty bad now, and it'll just get worse in the future. Newer systems like the Vita, 3DS, Wii U (Gamepad and Pro Controller), Switch (particulary the system and pro controller; for joycons this is an issue, though Nintendo sells AA battery handles you can get for joycons, which is a very nice option; they make joycons as thick as a Wiimote and more comfortable too, and are worth getting), and PS4 controllers will all have this problem too. From looking at this thread it's clear many PS4 controllers already get poor battery lives.
And seriously, using batteries doesn't make a controller that much thicker or harder to hold! The X360 and Xbox One controllers are very comfortable and well-designed controllers, and both use batteries. It's disappointing that after the Wii Nintendo stopped caring about this, but at least Microsoft wants their system to be fully playable in the future without needing to rely on maybe somehow managing to find a new unused built-in battery for your old devices online, and then hoping that it actually works as well as an original battery would. Finding good replacement batteries is not easy to say the least, but finding AA or AAA batteries is simple. Just charging up the rechargeables you already have is even simpler.
I don't really understand, why are so many people voting for non-removable batteries? Is this your first console generation or something? Because dealing with the problems of a dying non-removable battery are a big problem, and it's one that doesn't exist in anything using standard batteries!
Going with non-removable batteries is going for form over function, since it allows things to be made thinner, but that is a bad tradeoff that hurts systems and controllers significantly in the long run. All of these devices with built-in batteries aren't going to be very usable in the future, while anything which uses regular batteries and still works will be. I already have multiple PS3 controllers that can barely hold a charge, and this isn't a problem that Xbox 360 or Wii controllers have! It's the same on handhelds, the DS and PSP, and their successors, will have problems that no older, AA battery-using handheld could. I have a few original model DSes and their battery lives are pretty bad now, and it'll just get worse in the future. Newer systems like the Vita, 3DS, Wii U (Gamepad and Pro Controller), Switch (particulary the system and pro controller; for joycons this is an issue, though Nintendo sells AA battery handles you can get for joycons, which is a very nice option; they make joycons as thick as a Wiimote and more comfortable too, and are worth getting), and PS4 controllers will all have this problem too. From looking at this thread it's clear many PS4 controllers already get poor battery lives.
And seriously, using batteries doesn't make a controller that much thicker or harder to hold! The X360 and Xbox One controllers are very comfortable and well-designed controllers, and both use batteries. It's disappointing that after the Wii Nintendo stopped caring about this, but at least Microsoft wants their system to be fully playable in the future without needing to rely on maybe somehow managing to find a new unused built-in battery for your old devices online, and then hoping that it actually works as well as an original battery would. Finding good replacement batteries is not easy to say the least, but finding AA or AAA batteries is simple. Just charging up the rechargeables you already have is even simpler.
Unless you get a super cheap phony looking one it should be fine. The original battery included in the controllers isn't much really.
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Having a battery be constantly charging when it's fully charged already is terrible for it, and that what people who leave them plugged in all day when they're not using hem are doing. That's gonna absolutely destroy the battery well within a year.
Not all PS4/Switch owners are platform loyalists that will defend them to the end of the earth though, so you'll get a lot that still vote for the pretty universally accepted as better logically removable batteries.
It gets very frustrating trying to argue with groups like flat earthers, anti-vaxxers, and climate change deniers too, and often comes across as hostile.
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I feel like batteries drained while in the wii controller. It was really terrible. Battery life is much longer with Xbox one. Love it
This isn't how pretty much any modern battery works — not NiMHs, not LiONs. Charging circuitry stops pulling a charge when the battery gets close to full, then if power is left connected it will let the battery discharge a bit and trickle a charge in for optimal lifespan.
If a LiON charger just pulled current constantly when plugged in, a lot of people's houses would burn down.
I think the word you are looking for is skeptical, not hostile.
It would be cheaper in the long run to buy a charger and a small pack of Eneloops. They'll last a lot longer.
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It's £7.22 for a pack of 4 eneloops and £9 for the amazon basics charger on amazon.co.uk. If you're going through 20 batteries a month at £7 per 20, your wallet is ahead of the game in 3 months
I'll be swapping out rechargeable batteries in my X1/Rift controllers long after the controllers with built in batteries, have to be tethered because they no longer hold a charge.
And for anyone that is thinking about picking up batteries after this topic, get the standard capacity ones (~1900 mAh), not the high capacity ones (~2500 mAh). Those will last you 5+ years.
The high capacity batteries are for high power draw scenarios - which does not apply to things like game controllers. Overall life for the high capacity batteries is considerably shorter than the standard Eneloops.
Basically any pre-charged low self discharge battery is an "Eneloop" type rechargeable.
If you want the best quality batteries, seek out ones made in the Japan factory. Fujitsu branded batteries guarantee this, but cost a little more.
Oh, and don't buy a "fast charger". Those things kill battery life over time.
Buy another pack of batteries instead so that you always have a pair that are fully charged to swap out, if you need that.
It is still discharging and recharging constantly, and it's still causing heat which is one of the main battery killers. This is why phone batteries degrade quickly, because people leave them charging for 8 hours overnight every night.
Right, and suggesting people who prefer their batteries one way to those stances only makes the other side look more irrational.
On PC the USB port is just right there, don't even have to leave my seat.
Maybe I'll get some charging dock for the PS4 so I can do the same there.
I can say that it's not a capacity issue, as the XB1 battery is 1400mAh compared to the WiiU and Switch Pro's 1300mAh.
In case there's some kind of magic going on with the CTR-003, you could fit such a battery into any regular-sized controller.
It is interesting how the battery life of the Switch (while halved from the WiiU, which is also strange) is about twice that of the XB1, which has basically the same capacity.
Whatever it is, everyone should be doing it. Unless it's no analog triggers.
Maybe I'll get some charging dock for the PS4 so I can do the same there.
How is this a result of the XB1 controller's ability to be powered by either AA batteries or a li-ion battery?
I can say that it's not a capacity issue, as the XB1 battery is 1400mAh compared to the WiiU and Switch Pro's 1300mAh.
In case there's some kind of magic going on with the CTR-003, you could fit such a battery into any regular-sized controller.
It is interesting how the battery life of the Switch (while halved from the WiiU, which is also strange) is about twice that of the XB1, which has basically the same capacity.
Whatever it is, everyone should be doing it. Unless it's no analog triggers.
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The Fuck?
You REALLY think these gamers bought another controller JUST swap out because of "battery issues"? You really come that to buying additional accessories? Or batteries?
Some or I think 99.9% buy second controllers for potential other people who might want to play.
Oh no, the horror of having friends/fam.
What?
HD rumble is the best rumble. (advanced haptic feedback)
It was weird with the first games because devs didn't how to use it so it was just loud af but now they learned, you can achieve things you couldn't with a normal rumble.
Like making vibrate different parts of the controller at a different frequency.
Thats true. But an extra DS4 is still needed no matter how many extra you get for friends, family. To have on standby... I dont play with my kids much so the 3rd controller is always charged up ready for one of them to use when their current one is dying.
I realize that I am most likely the exception and not the rule, but I absolutely bought a second dual shock 4 AND charging station because of the abysmal battery life. I'd rather not be tethered to my console during charging.
That's still 1/3rd of the other controllers charges my point still stands. It's a shitty charge and the DS3 had like 30+ hours.
It's absolutely bonkers to me that anyone could think that a non-user-replaceable battery could possibly be a good thing (and this extends to all portable electronics, not just controllers).
Considering how often batteries go bad (and, more recently, explode), and how poor battery life can be depending on the device, having to replace the entire controller to get a new battery is just silly. I have a good set of screwdrivers, just let me buy a new battery pack and throw it in.
Considering how often batteries go bad (and, more recently, explode), and how poor battery life can be depending on the device, having to replace the entire controller to get a new battery is just silly. I have a good set of screwdrivers, just let me buy a new battery pack and throw it in.
You know that you can buy the DS4 battery too, right?
It isn't all "non-removable" like OP said, actually is easy as hell to remove them, in case you have to change them...
Its not as easy as swapping AAs. And if you really want to charge like a PS4 controller, you can get a play and charge kit. There is no reason for the non removable batteries except greed.
Is it really surprising? Most electronics today are ditching batteries for charging, it's just more convenient to the average consumer.
I don't see any logical reason to prefer non removable battery packs lol.
If you enjoy charging the controller, there's a removable play-and-charge kit that will emulate the same thing.
But if that battery dies, you still have many other options.
If you enjoy charging the controller, there's a removable play-and-charge kit that will emulate the same thing.
But if that battery dies, you still have many other options.
I'm well aware; there's no surprise here.
But the ability to charge a battery should have no bearing on whether or not the user should be able to replace it. Rechargeable batteries will eventually go bad, and manufacturing defects can happen. It's a waste of resources on all fronts to try and prevent users from replacing batteries - not to mention it being anti-consumer.
I just recently had to replace my New 3DS XL battery because it could barely hold a significant amount of charge (~45 minutes, with 3D off). It cost me $15 and all of a couple minutes, assuming you count getting into the packaging of the thing.
The only real issue is here that it costs a bit extra to buy the play-and-charge kit separately. That said, I got one of these at the Xbox One's launch, and it's still going strong, with no obvious drop-off in charge held... Which is quite an improvement over the 360 version, for sure.
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If the battery stops charging, I would like to be able to get a new one rather than buy a controller.
Same here.
Charging station ensures I can have all 3 of my controllers charged up. And swap, cycle when needed. Its the gaming sessions when my kids want me to play with them that it gets tricky, lol.
Wait
Xbone controllers still use removable batteries???????????
what the fuck
The DS4's terrible battery life was certainly an annoyance coming from the DS3, but i barely even notice it anymore.
The PS4 itself charges things extremely fast (i prefer my PS4 to charging my cellphone than most of my wall chargers)
But i'll get up and tether my controller for a few minutes before I get up and have to drive to the damn gas station any day of the week.....
Xbone controllers still use removable batteries???????????
what the fuck
The DS4's terrible battery life was certainly an annoyance coming from the DS3, but i barely even notice it anymore.
The PS4 itself charges things extremely fast (i prefer my PS4 to charging my cellphone than most of my wall chargers)
But i'll get up and tether my controller for a few minutes before I get up and have to drive to the damn gas station any day of the week.....
That is...bad lol.
I remember after my 360 broke last gen, seeing my PS3 come out the box with a controller and a basic USB charge cable was probably the best part about the console to me for a long time
nothing was worse than having your 360 controllers die and having to scramble for batteries...that shit is terrible