Doesn't that mean that the Sales of Breath of the Wild even more impressive than the Horizon sales? It's a game selling on a 17.88 mil userbase vs 80 mil userbase.With all due respect here, this isn't really true for most games except Nintendo. And I'm trying to be as apples to apples comparison here. Let's take Horizon on the PS4. We've got 2 very well selling first party exclusive games that are both open world, both retailed for the same price, and they even released at a similar time.
The units sold are even similar. Zelda is about 8.5 million or so on Switch (as of April or so) and Horizon is about 7.6 (as of the end of Feb or so). So, again trying to make the circumstances even here, these are the current costs.
Price on Amazon.com US for Horizon (Complete Edition with all DLC) = $39.99
Price on Amazon.com US for BOTW (Standard Edition with no DLC = $54.90
The free market is deciding Zelda is the better game.Doesn't that mean that the Sales of Breath of the Wild even more impressive than the Horizon sales? It's a game selling on a 17.88 mil userbase vs 80 mil userbase.
It's a shame, still looking to get Splatoon and the DLC but I can't look at my wife with a straight face when we are trying to save to go to Europe dropping 80$ out of the blue on one game.
One year out and still full price. Nintendo sucks with digital sales.
It's a shame, still looking to get Splatoon and the DLC but I can't look at my wife with a straight face when we are trying to save to go to Europe dropping 80$ out of the blue on one game.
One year out and still full price. Nintendo sucks with digital sales.
This doesn't really make sense, I don't see other companies closing down just because they are discounting their games.this thread is distasteful. alot of bad understanding of basic capitolism amd economics. To call Nintendo greedy for the way they price their games is just well...stupid.
You guys would heavily discount your great games as quickly as possible?
Which big studio you want closed first?
haha Retro?
ok let's discount Tropical Freeze on Wii U right when it comes out. Uh oh...we just lost aot of money and now our game is percieved as a bomba!
What are we gonna do now? The game is percieved as a failure. How the hell can we come back and sell it later for 59.99 with that rep?
no future sales for tropical freeze either.
yeah you select group of business savvy gamers should run Nintendo.
You really haven't shown anything supporting that, was the DS getting all the big third party games? PS3's struggle in Japan also had nothing to do with support but more to do with the state of the console market there, just look at the PS4.
have you been around the last ten yearsThis doesn't really make sense, I don't see other companies closing down just because they are discounting their games.
Using Tropical Freeze is a bad example. That game is a 4-year-old port that is $60 from the $50 Wii U version.this thread is distasteful. alot of bad understanding of basic capitolism amd economics. To call Nintendo greedy for the way they price their games is just well...stupid.
You guys would heavily discount your great games as quickly as possible?
Which big studio you want closed first?
haha Retro?
ok let's discount Tropical Freeze on Wii U right when it comes out. Uh oh...we just lost aot of money and now our game is percieved as a bomba!
What are we gonna do now? The game is percieved as a failure. How the hell can we come back and sell it later for 59.99 with that rep?
no future sales for tropical freeze either.
yeah you select group of business savvy gamers should run Nintendo.
It's a shame, still looking to get Splatoon and the DLC but I can't look at my wife with a straight face when we are trying to save to go to Europe dropping 80$ out of the blue on one game.
One year out and still full price. Nintendo sucks with digital sales.
the broader market decides. that's what you guys don't get. TF is charting really well right now at a full price. If they turned it into a game you can get for 6.99 at gamestop in 2014, nobody would buy it now.Using Tropical Freeze is a bad example. That game is a 4-year-old port that is $60 from the $50 Wii U version.
There wouldn't be any problem with that if there was DKCR as a download code.
But just an assist mode that I will never use? Hell no.
The game's price is unjustified compared to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Hyrule Warriors, and Bayonetta 1+2
Even Captain Toad Treasure Tracker is $40
There is no excuse for Tropical Freezes price point and I say it as someone who considers it to be one of the best platform games of all time.
Probably because of how rare the thing is to find. Hell Bowsers Inside Story is $67 on Amazon.This has been going on for a while. The DS port of Mario 64 was still selling at full price long into the 3DS era.
Bought my son (and by extension, me) a Switch. Impressed with the hardware and the functionality. Mariokart with the wheels for the joycons for my kid is great and he got the hang of steering super quick, but oh my god everything else on the store is so freaking expensive.
Zelda for £59.99 digitally? Booooo. And these kind of prices are everywhere on the store, even old indie games I have on my Xbox/PC.
Any good discount sites for digital codes or whatever anywhere?
Your list is Japan heavy, I've said in an earlier post that Japan is always on board with Nintendo console, it's the rest of the world that are not which makes the support lacking in comparison.The F.
DS got DQ9. A mainline DQ. Thats as big as support as possible from SE.
It got all Layton which sold millions for all its release.
It even got a Grand Theft Auto title which had never shown up on any Nintendo platform ever.
Thats not adding title that got huge on DS like Scribblenauts, Drawn to Life(Thq), Multiple Castlevania, multiple sonic games and even an exclusive Kingdom Hearts game at that time.
We are not even adding huge remake like FF3,4 and DQ remake.
Again. To said that DS third party support is not comparable to Playstation ecosystem is just false and stupid.
No, I was born in 2011, remember?have you been around the last ten years
how many studios have closed down
how many Nintendo studios have closed
Doesn't that mean that the Sales of Breath of the Wild even more impressive than the Horizon sales? It's a game selling on a 17.88 mil userbase vs 80 mil userbase.
Your list is Japan heavy, I've said in an earlier post that Japan is always on board with Nintendo console, it's the rest of the world that are not which makes the support lacking in comparison.
No, I've been born in 2011, remember?
Studios closing down have nothing to do with them cutting prices, you'd see every company except for Nintendo closing down if that was the case.
You really haven't shown anything supporting that, was the DS getting all the big third party games? PS3's struggle in Japan also had nothing to do with support but more to do with the state of the console market there, just look at the PS4.
Yeah they dont close down because of discounts. They close down because their games didnt sell enough regardless of price to make up for rising AAA dev costs.have you been around the last ten years
how many studios have closed down
how many Nintendo studios have closed
It's more than fair to call Nintendo for Tropical Freeze and Mario Kart pricing on the Switch, but calling anti-consumer because Breath of the Wild isn't $30 a year later is a little ridiculous. The "it's been a year, this needs to be $30 less" expectation is a silly one when several games drop in price simply to stay relevant.
You wouldn't happen to be a fan of the original RE style would ya? Basically the anti christ of fun gameplay.
It is a old game it should go on discount. ImoIt's more than fair to call Nintendo for Tropical Freeze and Mario Kart pricing on the Switch, but calling anti-consumer because Breath of the Wild isn't $30 a year later is a little ridiculous. The "it's been a year, this needs to be $30 less" expectation is a silly one when several games drop in price simply to stay relevant.
I own a charge grip, for the convenience of keeping all of my joycons constantly charged (2 on the Switch, 2 in the grip) and the convenience of instantly grabbing a "conventional" controller when I want one. But I think it's a fair price since I've never even had to think about charging a joycon since launch.Who the fuck owns a charge grip? The joycons last for 20 hours each and charge really fast.
As a consumer, I don't know how you can defend this. Most of the reasoning in this thread seems to benefit Nintendo and not the buyer. Do you guys work for Nintendo?
As a consumer, I don't know how you can defend this. Most of the reasoning in this thread seems to benefit Nintendo and not the buyer. Do you guys work for Nintendo?
Because ...
Not devaluating your product to move stock is anti-consumer??It's the worst part of buying a Nintendo console. Either you buy a Nintendo game within the first couple months or you feel as if you are getting ripped off (which you are).
It's very anti-consumer.
I buy every game at full price because I appreciate and respect the work and talent developers put behind their games.
unless they like to devalue their own work.
As a consumer, I don't know how you can defend this. Most of the reasoning in this thread seems to benefit Nintendo and not the buyer. Do you guys work for Nintendo?
What??? There are plenty of good games that cost $15 or less on the platform, one recent big one being Hollow Knight. Get out of here with the ignorance...My sole reason I dont pick up a switch
I see people say this is the new vita but no not for me
With vita I could go all digital, has some 50 games and I have never payed for than 15$ for a game. This will never happen with Switch, even same games, watch terraria stay at 30$ for ever
Sure Nintendo first party games can be expensive but when old indie games costs tenfold I cant justify a purchase. Hopefully some years from now
One of then is selling for 30$, the other still at premium price, I asure you if horiZon kept its 60$ price, it would not be close to whatever sales they have right nowActually, right now my biggest hang up with the switch. I was a step away from pulling the trigger on the $224 switch deal, but I aint spending 60 dollars on really old games.
Not really since one of them is an established franchise that has existed for 30 years vs a new franchise. Another reason could (a little fanboyi) is that when you have a brand new console buying the first AAA is probably given versus a console that has many AAA game to select from.
Before launch, there were many people that doubted that Zelda would be that good of a system seller for the switch.Actually, right now my biggest hang up with the switch. I was a step away from pulling the trigger on the $224 switch deal, but I aint spending 60 dollars on really old games.
Not really since one of them is an established franchise that has existed for 30 years vs a new franchise. Another reason could (a little fanboyi) is that when you have a brand new console buying the first AAA is probably given versus a console that has many AAA game to select from.
That's why games drop prices, so they can sell more. Nintendo doesn't get to do that because they already have an established history of not doing it, also it doesn't hurt that there are less AAA games to compete with.One of then is selling for 30$, the other still at premium price, I asure you if horiZon kept its 60$ price, it would not be close to whatever sales they have right now
Before launch, there were many people that doubted that Zelda would be that good of a system seller for the switch.
Won't someone think of the poor banker and investment funds.I work so i can buy products at maximum cost to help out a huge corporation owned by bankers and investment funds; and to show them i care. I wish games never went on sale so everyone would have to do the same.
Dunno if someone else responded to you yet, but did you ignore the part where the poster said Nintendo Portables too and not just home consoles? The DS was a MONSTER brimming with 3rd party support (competition) and the 1st party games still stayed at full price for most of DS lifetime. Get off your high horse and accept what you said is wrong, competition will NOT change Nintendo's pricing strategy...Go back to when exactly? NES? That's a much different ERA and gaming was still small compared to now, I doubt me and you know how pricing worked back then, that still doesn't changed the fact that Sony entered the market on the back of third parties and since then the support for Nintendo consoles were lacking, it's really no rocket science, why would I buy your game for full price if I can get 10 others like it for much cheaper?
It really doesn't matter what the reasoning is they say, getting more games simply creates more competition for yourown, how do you stay competitive with them? By offering things cheaper of course (that's on top of offering quality titles for sure).
I work so i can buy products at maximum cost to help out a huge corporation owned by bankers and investment funds; and to show them i care. I wish games never went on sale so everyone would have to do the same.
Not devaluating your product to move stock is anti-consumer??
aHahjahahahahahahahahaha
I buy every game at full price because I appreciate and respect the work and talent developers put behind their games.
unless they like to devalue their own work.
Defend what? Paying full price for games? Are they supposed to just drop the price because you want to?
Buy the game, play it, sell it for almost the same price you got it. Or get a PS4 and wait 3 months for their games to drop to peanuts because they make it up in services.
Two different sales models. Not everything has to follow what Sony does because you think so.
Because ...
I can tell you why Wolfenstein dropped in price.
I can tell you why Horizon dropped in price.
I can tell you why Assassin's Creed dropped in price.
And none of those answers are "because they're old".
This is nothing new. Nintendo has specifically been arguing against the devaluation of games, and the race to the bottom in pricing for a long time. Iwata gave a speech on it at GDC, and this was their primary criticism of the mobile industry for years.this thread is mindblowing
like this is some kind of bizarro world, some form of the twilight zone
where people are actually defending practices out of their own self-interests entirely out of what can only be pure ignorance....and a depressingly misguided sense of loyalty
I'm actually at a loss for words, this is eye opening lol
Thats up to the pulisher, if they want bigger sales number with lower income per sale. Or lower sales number with higher income per sales.That's why games drop prices, so they can sell more. Nintendo doesn't get to do that because they already have an established history of not doing it, also it doesn't hurt that there are less AAA games to compete with.
Well those people are stupid because Zelda games on console (not handheld) have been a 4+ million dollar franchise
Won't someone think of the poor banker and investment funds.
Who said anything about quality? I listed those three examples because they each dropped for three different reasons that juxtaposed against some Nintendo titles.Their business model prevents me from buying a lot of their games. If the games were cheaper, I would buy more. A lot of the games Nintendo keeps at full price aren't worth that for me relative to what the competition offers. Would the added sales from people like me be enough to make up for the lost profit? Who knows, but it's certainly not a simple matter of being a "better business model".
Older products receiving discounts is common for most consumer products, not just video games. Video games actually do age directly relative to the technology used. They're not like novels, which are really immortal and unchanging. But guess what? Novels get price reductions are often on sale.
Every game from everyone other than Nintendo drops in price. It has nothing to do with quality. Plenty of Nintendo titles have mediocre reception and remain at full price, while higher selling better received titles from others get price drops. Nintendo is alone in their approach.
Their business model prevents me from buying a lot of their games. If the games were cheaper, I would buy more. A lot of the games Nintendo keeps at full price aren't worth that for me relative to what the competition offers. Would the added sales from people like me be enough to make up for the lost profit? Who knows, but it's certainly not a simple matter of being a "better business model".
Older products receiving discounts is common for most consumer products, not just video games. Video games actually do age directly relative to the technology used. They're not like novels, which are really immortal and unchanging. But guess what? Novels get price reductions are often on sale.
Every game from everyone other than Nintendo drops in price. It has nothing to do with quality. Plenty of Nintendo titles have mediocre reception and remain at full price, while higher selling better received titles from others get price drops. Nintendo is alone in their approach.