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Sony's Fortnite crossplay account block is now covered by mainstream press [Sony Responds]
- Thread starter Gowans
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Who's to say they won't get a SW later on in the year, or Xmas?
Then find out they can't use their epic account that they have invested (by then) a considerable amount of time and/or money on..
~40% SW owners in US are also PS4 owners
See above.
They obviously will with PS5, when the userbase will be 0 for everyone. They aren't stupid, they're just doing what makes sense for them.
It would be smart for them to allow Nintendo in right away though. There's a reason why all this happened when Fortnite landed on Switch.
When they will unveil their next console Sony will announce cross-platform play as an innovative feature and people will applaud them for it (like they always do). Reminds me of the start of this gen when people applauded Sony for "supporting" the used games market.
Not even close!
I wouldn't ever go as far as saying I'm not gonna buy "x console" due to ONE game not having a feature another console has at the moment!
If it were more games with cross platform play and Sony still wasn't playing ball then I can fully be on board with this and be pissed too!
It already happened with the release of the Switch version, for me.
I didn't bought it because I couldn't continue my collection and progress there. Sure it wasn't Sony's fault there it was the non existent cross/account feature in general, but if they finally introduce a Rocker League account with such a thing, we will have the same problem again for everyone, yes.
That's because Microsoft had stupidly decided not to do that though.
It won't start at 0 though, especially if Sony has PS4 BC in the PS5. People won't just chuck away hundreds of pounds in digital purchases, which have been huge this gen.
And on the previous page people said nobody would drop Fortnite on PS4 for Switch because it runs better (LOL). They have and they will.
Please see my previous post on this issue for a breakdown of precisely why this will work against Sony next-gen. If online accounts for service games with crossplay carry over to the new generation of consoles then that will be a factor. Sony's closed eco-system will sell MS consoles.
We had a Fortnite party within our family reunion with a ton of ipads, 4 ps4s, various phones and one pc in the house. All playing together without a care in the world or mention of other platforms. I even went out of the way to introduce the account lock to people and they just expressed the desire to get people playing, so I left it alone. But everybody was connected somehow (don't know if it was all the same server all the time) and they had a blast. Hell I even kinda like the game now...
I do recognize, now, how this could be a problem cause it was one kid who bring his switch that couldn't connect with everybody else. But we got him an iPad and he was straight after that.
I do recognize, now, how this could be a problem cause it was one kid who bring his switch that couldn't connect with everybody else. But we got him an iPad and he was straight after that.
Yes. Only the competing consoles are unable to use the same account. So PC/iPad is fine, just not Switch or Xbox.
Yes.
*though I'm more of the buy it on PC or iDevice.. 'cause fuck Sony. But that's more of my personal situation/feelings at the whole 'thing'. Otherwise buy it where you feel more comfortable.
Wouldn't matter anyways, Sony wouldn't allow it at an account level.
Doesn't Fortnite only support parties of four? Why would you have 4 PS4s, a ton of iPads, various phones and one PC?
Regardless, glad you had a fun party. It sounds great! Cross-play really is fantastic. Here's hoping Sony lets PS4 players play with more platforms soon.
Awesome thanks so much. Just needed to make sure before i pop down the cash for him.
Regarding where i buy i have bought so much from PSN that i feel ok doing. Sucks they nake it hard where i need to ask though.
Back in the thread to complain about the page count once again. Ironically, increasing the page count. Cool!
Wouldn't matter anyway, since as soon as the account is linked with PS4 it can't be used on Xbox or Switch anymore. Even if you purchased stuff on PC or mobile in advance.
Edit: just saw the other post already stating the same.
User Banned (3 Days): Attempted thread derail with baseless accusations. History of platform warring.
Nope. Just pointing out the astro turfing that's distracting from the genuine issue. Posts like that are the reason why people stopped taking this issue seriously.
Increasingly this thread has become about trying to suggest Sony should give up the "Where my friends play" advantage to allow XBOX back into a competitive spot than it is about Switch/PSN fortnite account. And even when you've posted enough tweets to get you to page 300. Sony still wont budge on corporate strategy and allow Microsoft to be competitive again in the markets they dominate by giving up that or any other advantage.
yup not worth at all.....
See your post before you edit it .....wise decision
Well I look forward to the next instalment of 'OG_Thrills tells us that the thread is dead' in a week or so. See you then.
Just because you can't make the simple logical connection that a PS4-only player can be affected by not being able to connect to friends with an Xbox or Switch (the block works both ways...) doesn't make posts on the issue "astroturfing".
Jesus...
Since this statement has 4 responses and no one has asked...
You mind doing us all a favor and calling them out with evidence and reporting them?
I do wonder how many are actually being genuine rather than using it as a reason to haul out the pitch forks against Sony.
And if you go down this line it would basically spiral out as a lot of people here deadset on downplaying anything relating to this topic might not be genuine either. These things just happen with any online forum, though outright calling it astroturfing like he did is a whole extra layer.
Dunno if this one was posted yet
https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/2/17526896/sony-fallout-76-cross-platform-fortnite-minecraft
How much is Sony willing to get hurt to keep people apart?
This is going to keep happening
https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/2/17526896/sony-fallout-76-cross-platform-fortnite-minecraft
How much is Sony willing to get hurt to keep people apart?
This is going to keep happening
I don't think Sony is hurting at all from this currently.
Their stock is now higher than it was pre-E3 even though people argued that the cross-play news had affected their stock price (which was based off no solid evidence).
The company seems to be doing great as usual.
Their stock is now higher than it was pre-E3 even though people argued that the cross-play news had affected their stock price (which was based off no solid evidence).
The company seems to be doing great as usual.
I know right! I already spent some money on Warframe and now not being able to enjoy my character on my switch and need to start from scratch it bums me out. And is not only the skins like in Fortnite, its equipment and progression! Very bad Sony, Very bad
How many people are down playing this and playing defense force just cause Sony is involved? It goes both ways and in the end the actual point of discussion is still that Sony is being really anti consumer locking 3rd party accounts.
The only reason it got real attention with the Switch port is because the message made it clear that Sony was blocking it. The message that appeared on Xbox in the past was more vague, so it was hard to determine the source of the issue.
One of the problems with your reasoning is we have no idea how many more games could potentially support these features if it wasn't for Sony blocking it.
It's sad that you would even question this. There's a good chance that most gamers know someone who owns a PS4. So even people who only own a Switch or Xbox can be affected by this. Sure some people might be jumping to the opportunity to rally against Sony when it doesn't effect them but I'd bet the vast majority are sincere with their intentions on this.
Besides those few that may not be genuine are no different or worse than the people here who are rallying to defend a company for these actions.
That's a real shameless headline that comes off as a parody of the recent immigrant issue in America.
A bad policy is a bad policy no matter how you look at it. One could argue as to why Sony doesn't think they should get involved with console crossplay but locking accounts is really taking this whole thing to a new level. Nobody should be defending this period and we continue to see just how slow Sony is to react to do anything.
So far we had multiple years of PR talk about console crossplay that developers have called their bluff on, now let's see if Shawn and the rest will actually move on this issue in any respectable time manner. The fact that they haven't even been able to allow user ID change after all this time tells me just how slow and incompetent they are or how troubling PSN is to make any changes.
Negative press hurt their stock, it was in the news, that's solid evidence enough.
The question is going forward, will Sony not change their stance until 2020? That seems unwise with the possibility of more negative press between now and then. Gamers don't forget shit, especially when they lost out on money. Which still baffles me that people are defending Sony holding accounts hostage. End of the day it is a lesson a lot of people learned. Crossplay won't generate Xbox sales, if anything it will keep players on a Sony platform. It's like they are not thinking straight.
I feel like you're reading far too much into that. I don't see many sites - especially not Polygon - writing headlines as an intentional parody of horrible immigration policy that is genuinely hurting people.
That's a REAL stretch. It's obviously a bit sensationalist as a headline, because that's the nature of journalism in many ways, but the comparison you're making is kind of gross.
I own only a Ps4 and I have friends with Xbones and Switches
Yea, I guess. That's why I said "don't know if it was all the same server all the time". All I know is they were playing the game and having fun. It wasn't even a planned thing, it just happened. I underestimated how big a deal Fortnite really is.. it was great to watch actually.
Amazing :)
I figured it out recently from two occasions.
1) when my sister-in-law asked me what Fortnite was because my two nephews (5 and 3) kept going on about it and 'doing the dances'. They've never actually played it (they only have a Wii) but they're 'in love with it'
2) I went to a very music industry heavy showcase festival (where new artists/bands are playing to rooms of 90% industry folk) in the UK and one of the new acts played a song 'about Drake streaming Fortnite on Twitch'.
Games very much in the mainstream.
Yea, that's crazy.
I'm not down with the "fuck Sony" thing, but I can't say I don't care anymore cause of that one Switch kid, I felt so bad at first. So I let him use my iPad Pro (which is a no-no for games), luckily it didn't get damaged in the chaos.
Oh, this again.
Stop making this about console wars. This is about consumer rights.
Good try, but it's a bad policy, end of story. Protect a corporation somewhere else please.
Why aren't you down with the "fuck Sony"? This primarily affects their customers and they're perfectly fine with fucking all of us.
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I really don't think this is something you're going to see the real effect of now. I don't many PS4 owners are running out to buy Switches and Xboxes now in order to cross play with friends. I do, however, think there are disgruntled PS4 owners who are upset that they have the one console that prevents them from experiencing a huge multiplayer phenomenon with their non-PS4 friends and would think differently about staying in the Sony ecosystem next time they're buying a console.
This is long term brand damage. You aren't going to see PS4 hurting in system sales or stocks going down yet.
The main question here is how much damage to the PS brand is Sony willing to take for crossplay? What is their threshold for bad PR vs allowing crossplay?
As a long time PlayStation fan I wish they'd just allow it so we can move forward.