The author speculate this could be seen as a response to Valve plans to release a Steam client in China.
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Tencent plans to take WeGame Worldwide
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The author speculate this could be seen as a response to Valve plans to release a Steam client in China.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/artic...-take-wegame-worldwide-as-steam-rivalry-grows
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Great idea giving a Chinese corporation your personal information.
No. No more clients that offer no real competition to steam beyond holding certain games hostage and definitely no more from scummy companies like Tencent. I'd even consider using EA's client before I ever download theirs.
Good luck to capcom if they actually do make MH World exclusive to that.
Good luck to capcom if they actually do make MH World exclusive to that.
lol you ever heard of what Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, and basically any website that we visit do with our personal information?
I rather not give my information to anyone. But the world has progressed way past the point of no return on that front. Companies and governments (not just the Chinese) have an unquenchable hunger for data.
Might even be better than US companies tbh.
They might not sale those information to whoever.
So another competitor to Steam that can't beat Steam and won't do much to change Steam? Sure, why not.
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Tencent is huge in Asia. Tencent owns 49% of Epic shares, they own Riot Games. If they e.g. would only take 20% of sales or 15%, they can become really dangerous to Valve in eastern markets.
Look at PUBG numbers. 60% of owners are Chinese. For a lot of XSeed titles or even Koei-Tecmo titles most owners are from China, before K-T, S-E etc. went away from regional pricing.
You can say that for the myriad of other clients that exist and don't do shit.
As pointed out above, it may be from a user perspective, but I doubt that their client will provide even a fraction of the same services.
Tencent has LOL. They might even push to do a centralized platform where you can play LOL and Fortnite.
That's not really comparable to Ubisoft and EA.
lol you all will be begging for valve to actually have a "monopoly" when companies like tencent get involved.
At least maybe then people will appreciate all the features Steam has that none of their competitors ever bothered implementing. They exist just to not pay the 30% cut and that's it really.
GoG, windows store...
And to note, both Uplay and origin do (try to) sell games outside of their own catalogues.
In some ways (Jinping thought but in this case also more pertinent Sesame Credit, where WeChat and undoubtedly WeGame are feeding into), it's worse.
Look, LoL alone has about as much players as the entirety of steam combined (minus PUBG).
Ditto for Fortine.
GoG and the windows store are tiny compared to steam, let alone some of tencents really big games.
They might not break through in the West but in Asia this is absolutely a legit competitor.
In terms of surveilance China is more repressive than it's ever been in it's history.
Absolutely, but those player play LoL. They have steam libraries for other games.
Yes, they absolutely can Trojan horse their way like that, I just don't think it will be that successful, at least in regards to game diversity in the user base.
China has become a literal 1980s dystopia movie, with social credit systems that can control your social status and movement in a city, AI controlled citizen tracking and a government that can black-bag you if they don't like your political view. This isnt really an argument of whats worse, just that when it comes to information tech, China is full-steam ahead on the dark path.
I Understand that, but I am not sure they are going to do well outside of the asia region unless they force more games away from Steam, like making PUBG through Steam the version no longer being updated with the version on WeGames. People are very rabid about using Steam and hating anything that isn't Steam or GoG.
Competition is good & Valve i do feel have gotten a bit complacent with their no.1 spot, but i think it's a bit too late for good ol Tencent to be doing this, Steam already has a good hold on the market & that's hard to shake off, there is no resets like in console gen's, Steam's dominance isn't going anywhere.
I dont really think it will be popular in the west, but it can take everything Valve got (Steam got HUGE in China e.g. just after introducing regional pricing) away from them again and could become a healthy competitor in that market.
And they could easily do that by giving more money to pubs, not even exclusivity or offering better regional prices. Japanese publishers went away from regional pricing in the last years again in a lot of asian regions. If Tencent gives them an incentive to go back to regional pricing, at least in Asia most sales might be on WeGame, not Steam.
I always believe if there's one company who have enough resource and resolve to compete with Steam then it must be Tencent.
Yes, it's a lot worse then 1980s regarding monitoring, censorship (Winnie the Pooh), spying, etc... I don't want to get into this argument right now but surveillance state in China is getting very scary (bolstered by cutting edge AI and ML tech). Read up on what's going on with Uyghurs for one terrible example but it doesn't end there.
Tencent is one of the 2 major players (alongside Alibaba) involved in Chinese new Citizen score system where people can get denied access to travel, jobs and so on based on their Citizen score.
That said the only one that's not selling your data in US is Apple. MS is getting better somewhat at least but Google, Facebook and so on are free for all.
As opposed to giving our data to the paragons of virtue that are American corporations, yes
They also carry games like rocket league, pubg ect. and are willing to buy exclusivity, at least for the chinese market. At the very least for Asia, this will be a competitor. And Asia has become increasingly important for Steam (and it's a very big chunk of the PC market as a whole).
My post is more for them affecting Steam in the West, I personally don't want to give my info to a company that is tied to a country that rates their citizens based on their activities not even talking about what would be considered illegal either. Steam could use the competition though, but it will make as much of a dent in the west as Win10 Store and other stores.
Yeah, I could see Tencent doing it by ripping away all games that they control from Steam. Beyond doing that making sure that if you release on Wegames, you can't release on another platform, could boost numbers.
What's with all the anti-China rhetoric? What do you expect them to do with your LoL and Fortnite gaming information?
If you are scared of China getting your CC#, address and SSN they already got it thanks to your favorite American corporations.
If you are scared of China getting your CC#, address and SSN they already got it thanks to your favorite American corporations.
Why do people think Capcom is switching? If they do, screw them I'll never buy a Capcom game that uses this service. Don't feel like having spyware for the Chinese government installed on my computer (/s although based on spyware within the Chinese mobile sector, might have some questionable data collection), nor do I need yet another PC client. Steam, Uplay, and battle.net are enough for me.
They have been secretive about which PC service(s) MH is going to release on. We know it's at least going to be on tencents platform. We'll know the facts in a few hours, i doubt it's exclusive in the west but it probably is in China.
The problem here is that they don't seem to want to compete on prices (which would be good for us), they want to make their games exclusive to their client and that's it. It doesn't need to be better than Steam, you have to use it anyway and people are not going to stop playing Fortnite or LoL because the client is inferior (LoL was already using its own client and that didn't stop it from becoming much bigger than DOTA2).
Is China even allowing Steam to have their own client? That would be a surprise.
Not interested in another launcher.
Not interested in another launcher.
Steam is available in China since its release.
It became one of the biggest market for some games in the last few years.
Which is where I'm doubtful. The only competition Steam has is Uplay, since they play by the rules. If Tencent is all about paying for exclusives, this is no competition, but forcing people into a crap service.
It's not anti-China rhetoric but anti-Chinese government and their horrible practices rhetoric (regarding anything from human rights to censorship to treatment of minorities to full on 1984 or worse surveillance).
Checking out the chinese WeGame site, the client seems to have more features than Origin or uPlay at least. Universal refunds and direct Streaming are features of WeGame.
Yeah I think they are in a pretty strong position to make moves globally here. Especially with their stakes in Epic/Fortnite, Riot/League of Legends, Ubisoft, Paradox, and others.
I wonder if people dismissing them outright don't realise that they are the biggest gaming company on the planet.
Taking on Steam directly would be no easy feat, but they are well positioned to do it.
I wonder if people dismissing them outright don't realise that they are the biggest gaming company on the planet.
Taking on Steam directly would be no easy feat, but they are well positioned to do it.
Nah, just their government probably. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they apparently worked on Sesame Credit, the.
Absolutely this. I want them to just kick out their communist party and be a democracy already.