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Davis' letter is hilarious. Reading only that, you'd think he's been negotiating tooth and nails non-stop since 2 years only to be betrayed by the person he trusted most.
 

jelly

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So, what happens if parliament doesn't back the checkers plan, can they not send it to the EU, do the EU bother to respond?
 

*Splinter

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Its age 16-26 so I don't think so.
The 16-26 is 73% which seems reasonable. The bars at the top show 63% and doesn't specify an age bracket, I assume it's everyone?

Edit: never mind, the 73% is with don't know/wouldn't vote removed. I guess the other countries are 16-26 as well then, pretty misleading image
 

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Responding to the news, one senior EU diplomat said it meant "no big change" because Davis "wasn't really present recently", as Olly Robbins, the prime minister's Europe advisor, had been doing the negotiations.

As the Press Association reports, the commission did "not have a specific comment" about the resignation and refused to be drawn when asked to pay tribute to the outgoing cabinet minister.

Aside from misleading parliament about impact assessments and drinking the Commons bar dry, what the actual fuck was he doing for the last two years?
 
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O'Neill
Fallon
Greening
Patel
Green
Rudd
Lee
Davis

Any more I've forgotten?

So strong, so stable.
 

excowboy

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So, does he fancy being PM then? Or is he just gonna fuck right off and wash his hands of the whole mess?
 

Dougald

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If either of them had a shred of integrity they wouldn't have agreed with the very thing they resigned over at Chequers.
 

Protome

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Can this be good? Maybe the right people will have a voice finally and set things straight? Trying to be optimistic.
Whether it's good or not hinges entirely on
1) Whether they have enough Brexiteers to force then win a leadership contest (which seems highly unlikely)
2) Whether the government collapses and we get an election out of it and the Tories lose even more seats than last time (because historically, the British public don't vote for collapsing parties and also they'll become the party of "Hard Brexit" which will alienate a LOT of voters.)

Worst case scenario is they push for a leadership challenge, win, replace May with someone like BoJo the Clown who is in favour of a Hard Brexit, we crash out of the EU and the country falls apart economically in a disaster that will take decades to repair.

Best case scenarios are either, May holds on and continues pushing for her Softer brexit plan that has already been rejected, it gets rejected again, she accepts an actual Soft Brexit deal from the EU because she has no other choice
or
We get a snap election, Labour win (preferably propped up by a Pro-Remain party like SNP) and we either stop the whole Brexit process or at least go for the Softest possible Brexit.
 

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Whether it's good or not hinges entirely on
1) Whether they have enough Brexiteers to force then win a leadership contest (which seems highly unlikely)
2) Whether the government collapses and we get an election out of it and the Tories lose even more seats than last time (because historically, the British public don't vote for collapsing parties and also they'll become the party of "Hard Brexit" which will alienate a LOT of voters.)

Worst case scenario is they push for a leadership challenge, win, replace May with someone like BoJo the Clown who is in favour of a Hard Brexit, we crash out of the EU and the country falls apart economically in a disaster that will take decades to repair.

Best case scenarios are either, May holds on and continues pushing for her Softer brexit plan that has already been rejected, it gets rejected again, she accepts an actual Soft Brexit deal from the EU because she has no other choice
or
We get a snap election, Labour win (preferably propped up by a Pro-Remain party like SNP) and we either stop the whole Brexit process or at least go for the Softest possible Brexit.
They all know hard Brexit is dead
 

mightynine

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As a Yank, I do so love how the House of Commons always sounds it's just about to break out in a barroom argument.
 

Protome

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Anyone else watching May's speech atm?

*Rambles about the proposal*
"This will be challenging for the EU"
*Entire chamber laughs at her*
 
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