Other than the Supers, nope (at least not story wise)
They delve into a public event and 3 lost sectors but it's pretty much just straight up gameplay with some commentary about the location
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Bungie Developer Insights: Darker Narrative
- Thread starter Strakt
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Other than the Supers, nope (at least not story wise)
They delve into a public event and 3 lost sectors but it's pretty much just straight up gameplay with some commentary about the location
Not really clear, but probably not. Gotta save that big bad for Destiny 3: This Time The Number is Even Bigger
My favorite thing about the narrative of any piece of media is being told the most pivotal moment that changes everything forever in marketing materials before the actual piece of media even comes out, just so that I can get apropriately excited for the moment that I already know will be coming.
It's an odd marketing choice but I think it's to reassure people that they're moving away from the lighthearted and comical tone of D2. What better way to show that than by killing off one of the most obnoxious and ridiculous characters in the game.
While Cayde came off as annoying sometimes... i personally feel them "offing" him was only a fluke but if it is deemed as true and he stays dead they will lose a FUCKTON of people.
if they off Shaxx im done with this game
edit- "darker" also doesn't mean someone has to fucking die.
if they off Shaxx im done with this game
edit- "darker" also doesn't mean someone has to fucking die.
Wish they killed off Zavala. He has been a one note character since the beginning. At least Cayde and Zagora (sp), have had some depth to them.
I still don't think they kill of Cayde forever. (Or at least a Nathan Fillion voiced character).
I still don't think they kill of Cayde forever. (Or at least a Nathan Fillion voiced character).
I honestly think he'll be back in some form. That'll be the "twist" as they killed him off in the damn trailer lol
Well, people are forgetting the Exo can be rebooted without the help of the ghosts so Cayde 6 will come back as Cayde 7.
I mean the rebooting was hinted with the blacksmith and he is slowly losing his memories each reboot
Disgusting to see Bungie killing him to keep the fanbase interesting on the game
I mean the rebooting was hinted with the blacksmith and he is slowly losing his memories each reboot
Disgusting to see Bungie killing him to keep the fanbase interesting on the game
My guess is that for whatever reason, by the end of the Year 2 story Nathan Fillion will be the voice of our ghost.
Overall I'm excited about the return to a darker narrative. As it currently stands, everything's too cheesy.
I do think that the balance they struck in D1 between Cayde-6 and the rest of the characters was the right way to go, though, with an overall serious tone but some occasional humor sprinkled throughout.
With no Cayde-6 (well, no Nathan Filion) character, I'm a little concerned that they're going to either go 100% grimdark all the time, which will get old, or, more likely, they'll try to turn one of the other characters into the "occasional comic relief" character in Cayde's absence, which will just fall flat, because in my opinion no other character currently in the game can pull off comedy. "Nathan Filion plays Nathan Filion" is the only humor so far in the game that I've found even a little funny (other than that one line from the Speaker, but the Speaker's gone, too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯). I'd rather they found some other character to kill off and just scaled back the number of Cayde's lines to the "occasional" range again.
For example, they could get rid of the actually-most-annoying character by having something happen to Ghost that makes it not be a bumbling idiot anymore.
I do think that the balance they struck in D1 between Cayde-6 and the rest of the characters was the right way to go, though, with an overall serious tone but some occasional humor sprinkled throughout.
With no Cayde-6 (well, no Nathan Filion) character, I'm a little concerned that they're going to either go 100% grimdark all the time, which will get old, or, more likely, they'll try to turn one of the other characters into the "occasional comic relief" character in Cayde's absence, which will just fall flat, because in my opinion no other character currently in the game can pull off comedy. "Nathan Filion plays Nathan Filion" is the only humor so far in the game that I've found even a little funny (other than that one line from the Speaker, but the Speaker's gone, too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯). I'd rather they found some other character to kill off and just scaled back the number of Cayde's lines to the "occasional" range again.
For example, they could get rid of the actually-most-annoying character by having something happen to Ghost that makes it not be a bumbling idiot anymore.
I think Destiny 2 can afford to be a bit more serious, but I don't want to go back to base D1's dark, dreary and passionless writing. Base D2's camapign was leagues ahead of base D1's campaign. Frankly, though, goddamn it, I liked Cayde, dude was funny without being obnoxious, even if I wish he could've shown his more serious side in D2 more often.
Though I think part of the problem with D2's story is that Bungie killed off Ghaul. Or, at least, they killed off Ghaul too soon. The guy's presence in the plot had actual weight, he had gravitas, and he got enough screentime that we got an idea of what his deal was. Problem is, as climatic as his demise was, his final boss fight was honestly too easy and simple (granted, that's also one of Destiny's big problems, the mechanics simply can't support a boss fight that isn't an incredibly straightforward flunky boss or a raid puzzle boss), and we haven't gotten a finale with him that's mechanically satisfying, and killing him off so soon feels like a huge waste. No other antagonist in Destiny 2 has come close to matching Ghaul in terms of coming off as a meaningful threat, and for fuck's sake, the latest villain was a fucking worm god. Calus is interesting, but he doesn't fill the role Ghaul left behind.
Though I think part of the problem with D2's story is that Bungie killed off Ghaul. Or, at least, they killed off Ghaul too soon. The guy's presence in the plot had actual weight, he had gravitas, and he got enough screentime that we got an idea of what his deal was. Problem is, as climatic as his demise was, his final boss fight was honestly too easy and simple (granted, that's also one of Destiny's big problems, the mechanics simply can't support a boss fight that isn't an incredibly straightforward flunky boss or a raid puzzle boss), and we haven't gotten a finale with him that's mechanically satisfying, and killing him off so soon feels like a huge waste. No other antagonist in Destiny 2 has come close to matching Ghaul in terms of coming off as a meaningful threat, and for fuck's sake, the latest villain was a fucking worm god. Calus is interesting, but he doesn't fill the role Ghaul left behind.
Its like they were going for that Game of Thrones style shock of killing of a main character that people loved except nobody gives a shit about the story in Destiny and most people were just annoyed by Cayde.
There are tons of people talking about getting revenge for Cayde, I'm honestly shocked at how well it actually worked out for Bungie.
Cayde and Failsafe are basically the only likable characters in either of the games. Sucks that they killed one.
They should have killed off bland ass Ikora or Zavala instead.
They should have killed off bland ass Ikora or Zavala instead.
He is the only humor in the game outside of Devram. He'll be back at some point in Destiny 3
Now that Osiris is back on the board they could have killed off Ikora.
She had one memorable line and you have to play a strike to hear it.
Now that Osiris is back on the board they could have killed off Ikora.
She had one memorable line and you have to play a strike to hear it.
As far as I'm concerned, I'll be less invested in the game if they legitimately kill off the most likable character in the game. Yes, they needed to tone him down at bit in Destiny 2 -- but they needed to tone down all the humor in Destiny 2. The Taken King had the absolute perfect balance for an overall story and Cayde as a character.
If they honestly kill Cayde permanently, that feels like a shock value moment to me. The characters we place as aren't characters so we won't see them truly react. They don't even have voices anymore. (Plus, I really dislike the idea that a Guardian can be perma-killed by his Ghost being shot. I feel like, in terms of lore, that would mean that Guardians should be perma-dying left and right.)
To me, it's a far more interesting story if Cayde dies but we (the player Guardian) and the remaining Vanguard find a way to bring him back in our search for revenge -- simply because we care about the character. And as a result of that, we see the impact that has on Cayde as a character in terms of his personality and future expansions.
But Cayde already died 6 times.....
Eh, Destiny 2 went overboard with Cayde humor and makes him sound like a petulant child
Eh, Destiny 2 went overboard with Cayde humor and makes him sound like a petulant child
Consider me reassured, thanks for this.
Lore-wise, didn't his mind just get 'restarted'? I suppose that is similar to death, but... ah semantics.
Did they go through the list of complaints about D2 and focus on one that wasn't actually a problem? Having a more comedic tone was never a problem.
Meanwhile, in Warframe: Completely new, giant open-world area with multiple new mechanics and a new faction to gain rep with, hoverboards, a new cinematic quest, oodles of new skins, frames and weapons, and a whole multi-crew ship battle mode - all for free.
edit - sorry, forgot to mention the continuation of an ongoing cinematic questline with a story tens of times more gripping than destiny's
edit - sorry, forgot to mention the continuation of an ongoing cinematic questline with a story tens of times more gripping than destiny's
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So play warframe? I personally think that combat in that game is ass (aside from the movement). Either way, not sure what that has to do with this thread. People can learn to enjoy both as they are two totally different games :)
Free 2 play means no interest from me.
Good point. They are two different games, it's just...every time I play warframe I keep thinking "damn, if this feature was in destiny that game would have been so much better" - I say this as someone with over 100 hours in Destiny 2
You can get to a point where earning lots of the premium currency becomes stupid easy, at which point you will never have a reason to spend a dime on the game again unless you want to. Warframe is considered a shining example of "free 2 play done right" for a reason.
That sounds a little harsh and overboard, most people would just call it comic relief. In a world where everything must be serious and dire it was much needed. He was the perfect Hunter, just did his own thing
I attempted Warframe twice on PS4 and twice on Xbox, the shooting and movemebt is still imo janky/ass.
It can do a whole bunch of other stuff right but the most important part. The feel of the gameplay.
They don't have to kill characters for a story to be dark, they just need to tone down the joke s but seeing as Cayde is the person usually making em...
Anticipating Cayde-7 by the release of the next DLC. Bungie & Fillion are just too tight. Plus they gotta fuck up their promises somehow (it's the Bungie way!).
Any word on Cayde's appearance in
? I really hope they go all-in with this and his death has a resounding impact around the rest of the game/world. However that'd mess up vanilla content + Bungie still have a 'timeline' in their games for new players. I'm just genuinely baffled by how they'll pull this off.
Any word on Cayde's appearance in
the tower
He said in the Kotaku interview that it was an availability issue. However, Nathan's become a much bigger deal since the 2000s and may have priced himself out of this type of work. It's really a shame he won't be there to see this character off, but I hope shaking things up with characters brings some new, genuinely good storytelling to the game going forward.