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Quasicat

Self-requested ban
Banned
Nov 2, 2017
169
Rented it this weekend only to try out the Adventure mode. I was expecting something like Mario Tennis on GBC back in the day. It is so disappointing that is doesn't even come close to that. Maybe the Golf Story devs will tackle a Tennis Story next...I would download that day 1.
 

//ARCANUM

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,404
Look at the ground. You wanna be in the bright purple spot. Easy to do with Zone Speed, very tricky to get right without it. And yeah, I didn't learn this from the game itself.

Okay I'm playing now and I see no bright purple spot on the ground when a zone shot is coming at me. I see the purple traveling with the ball. Is that what you mean? Also, I'm either too early or the ball hits my body 99% of the time. What do I do differently here? I can't get this timing down at all.
 
Nov 4, 2017
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Okay I'm playing now and I see no bright purple spot on the ground when a zone shot is coming at me. I see the purple traveling with the ball. Is that what you mean? Also, I'm either too early or the ball hits my body 99% of the time. What do I do differently here? I can't get this timing down at all.
Blocking a zone shot with a trick shot is incredibly difficult, and I don't think I've ever even done it.

I just slow down time and block it manually.
 

KrigareN-

Banned
Dec 13, 2017
2,156
My most anticipated Switch game this year and it's disappointing. I haven't played in almost a week.

I kinda now regret having purchased it digitally.
 

Deleted member 6949

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
7,786
I put it down after a few hours and I'm going to come back in 6 months and see if they updated it or added dlc. It feels like it's really close to being a good game and I don't want to burn out on it on the off chance that they work on it some more. The multiplayer is decent, but overall it should have been priced like Rocket League. Honestly even then Rocket League would still be a better deal because it is more polished and replayable.
 

Firebrand

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,718
Okay I'm playing now and I see no bright purple spot on the ground when a zone shot is coming at me. I see the purple traveling with the ball. Is that what you mean? Also, I'm either too early or the ball hits my body 99% of the time. What do I do differently here? I can't get this timing down at all.

Yes, the illuminated ground is very useful for timing the block. There's a bright center, run up to that center spot and press the button and you should time it correctly.
 

justiceiro

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
6,664
They reused assets and still managed to provide a lackuster experience, amazing.

Camelot can't catch a break, sadly. One day they will get the investment needed to make a great game again, I hope.
 

duckroll

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,224
Singapore
Yeah this is why I didn't buy the game in the end. But apparently trying to warn other people about it in a new thread was frowned upon so it was locked with a "go post on the OT" message or whatever. Good to let more people know before they drop money expecting an actual RPG mode or anything.
 

RedDevil

Member
Dec 25, 2017
4,131
Yeah it's unfortunate, it's the reason why I didn't buy it. I was so hype that they're putting back the rpg singleplayer but was disappointed after seeing the previews and reviews.

See here:

I don't think they ever advertised it as an RPG-lite mode? I agree it's flawed, but maybe going in with RPG expectations made it seem worse than it is. I went in expecting a succession of challenges and found it decent if rushed/poorly thought-out.

Good or bad they didn't break any promise really.

The reality is that we'll likely never see the RPG modes of GBC or the GBA games again, there's one reason they always sold less than their console counterparts and I don't think that they're selling a Tennis game on Switch with the single player content as a priority.
 

duckroll

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,224
Singapore
The reality is that we'll likely never see the RPG modes of GBC or the GBA games again, there's one reason they always sold less than their console counterparts and I don't think that they're selling a Tennis game on Switch with the single player content as a priority.
They should tho. Golf Story shows that there is a market for that still. I dunno if Camelot still has it in them to do it, but if not Nintendo should find some dev who does.
 

//ARCANUM

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,404
Yes, the illuminated ground is very useful for timing the block. There's a bright center, run up to that center spot and press the button and you should time it correctly.

I must be CRAZY. I don't see any illumination on the ground, only around the ball itself in the air. By the time it's on the ground, I've missed it.
 

Protoman200X

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
8,574
N. Vancouver, BC, Canada
If Camelot wanted to make a top-down Golden Sun with the really colorful and illustrative backgrounds that made the GBA games look so fucking crisp and nice, I'd be game. Just cut down on the overly verbose text and swapping out party members a compelling and strategic choice, and I'm sold.

And again, this is all ignoring that the actual tennis in this game is really fucking good.

For me, the games core tennis mechanics (regardless of how "really fucking good" it is) isn't enough to justify a purchase. Especially when there's a lack of thoughtful game modes & content that can justify its $80 Canadian price tag. I got much more value out of OwlBoy & Battle Chasers, and both were half of MTA's price tag.
 

AnimeJesus

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,181
Ya, adventure mode is kind of a throwaway. I just login to get a few online matches in every once in a while and honestly there's not much incentive to win online either other than leaderboards. I really hope they add some more unlocks to the game cause it does feel incredibly bare bones.

Gameplay is still fun though and I don't completely regret my purchase.
 

neoJABES

Member
Dec 23, 2017
542
I agree. Virtua Tennis is much much better...

Hell if I remember correct, I think I had more fun with Hot Shots Tennis on psp back in the day.

Really wanted to enjoy this but I just can't get it.
 

//ARCANUM

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,404
Also, why the hell am I (with 100 points) going up against a player with 3000 points in online tournaments?
 

BPHusker

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,128
Nebraska
I'm so glad I didn't buy this. I loved the GBC story mode and was hoping this was going to have something like it. I'll put that money I would have spent on it on Octopath Traveler.
 

leng jai

Member
Nov 2, 2017
15,119
The bigger issue is the barebones options for multiplayer and AI free play. You can't even play a proper set FFS.
 

noyram23

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,372
See here:



Good or bad they didn't break any promise really.

The reality is that we'll likely never see the RPG modes of GBC or the GBA games again, there's one reason they always sold less than their console counterparts and I don't think that they're selling a Tennis game on Switch with the single player content as a priority.
Lot of press articles are saying that when the game was announced iirc, it doesn't matter though for me RPG singleplayer is the biggest draw, same with the Mario Golf. I'll get it when it's cheaper in the future.

I wish they gave Camelot a chance to develop an RPG again.
 

Laserbeam

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,454
Canada
the weird difficulty spikes/things that feel completely random are annoying. Couple that with the no instant "retry" option and I haven't been back to it in a while.
 

9-Volt

Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,885
This game was incredibly rushed and I've no idea why. That's two Mario Tennis games in a row that are complete letdowns.

This is the darker side of Nintendo: creating low quality rush jobs to fill the gaps left by absence of third party. 3DS had awful lot of them and if third party presence remains nowhere to be seen, Switch get its own huge share, starting with this one.

Save us, third parties!
 

Sardello

Member
Oct 30, 2017
305
I see it as a necessary tutorial before jumping online. The problem is that they didn't market it like that and everyone had high expectations.

For sure it teaches you how to perform blocks.
 

Egida

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,386
Surprised at all these late reactions at how crappy sp content is, when reviewers destroyed it at launch.
 

Mendrox

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
9,439
Played it coop on saturday and two of my friends did hate it. Can you even choose teams yourself? We always got put randomly in teams which sucked with different skill levels
 

LinkStrikesBack

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Oct 27, 2017
16,371
To me it was fun but not all that well implemented.



The rushed meme strikes again. Why is it so hard to accept that a game lacking features isn't a matter of the game being rushed but because they weren't going to be there in the first place?

You're going to have to do better to convince me they actually wanted to drop series staple modes like Ring shot.

It wasn't a matter of time, they completely dropped those after the GBA game, the games on N64, GCN, 3DS and Wii U had nothing like those or even like Aces.

Nintendo are the ones who chose to compare it to the GBA RPG modes in advertising, stating it was the first mode like it since the GBA game. So it'stheir fault for setting that expectation.
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,494
Should I even bother with this game if I don't plan to play online? I hate multiplayer and would only get it for the singleplayer content...

I guess I should go back to the GBC/GBA for my Mario Tennis fix.
 

correojon

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
1,410
Should I even bother with this game if I don't plan to play online? I hate multiplayer and would only get it for the singleplayer content...

I guess I should go back to the GBC/GBA for my Mario Tennis fix.
No, there isn't enough content to keep you entertained and what little there is is good but not great.
 

matrix-cat

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,284
Should I even bother with this game if I don't plan to play online? I hate multiplayer and would only get it for the singleplayer content...

I guess I should go back to the GBC/GBA for my Mario Tennis fix.

It's about five hours long, very repetitive and pretty dull, to be honest. I really couldn't recommend it if you definitely aren't interested in the multiplayer.
 

neilyadig

Member
Nov 13, 2017
588
It is surprising how shallow it is. I appreciate that its a big step up from Wii U, though...

Mario Golf World Tour was way deeper and I was hoping for something nearly as fleshed out as that:

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nikos

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,998
New York, NY
I played a few levels of the story mode and never played the game again. It completely turned me off. I should probably just skip to the actual tennis part of the game.
 

Potterson

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,419
Holy crap, I was never so not in agreement with so many people here :D I love Adventure Mode. I love that not every mission is just normal tennis match and I love how hard some challenges are. Sure, no customization, no story - but who cares? It's a Mario Tennis. Mind you, I have not played the GBA game.
 

tyfon

Member
Nov 2, 2017
3,680
Norway
I sold this game 1 week after purchase. Biggest disappointment of the year for me.

Yep, I'm selling this in a few days.
I bought it for my daughter originally but it was too hard for her.
Then I tried it myself and the story mode is useless and I'm not interested in online or vs mode so it's going.
First Switch game I sell actually..
 

dreamfall

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,976
GBC Mario Tennis was the pinnacle. GBA Power Tour was amazing as well. As much as I hoped for something even remotely close to this, I feel like as more information got revealed, it was necessary to keep expectations low.

Thank goodness for simple tournaments online - that's where I've been spending almost all my time with the game, and it's a blast to have a competent tennis game to just pick up and play. Even if the rallies are insanely long!
 

Deleted member 5535

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
13,656
This is the darker side of Nintendo: creating low quality rush jobs to fill the gaps left by absence of third party. 3DS had awful lot of them and if third party presence remains nowhere to be seen, Switch get its own huge share, starting with this one.

Save us, third parties!

Mario Tennis Aces is in no way a low quality title. It's actually one of the best games on the series, if not the best in terms of actual gameplay, graphics, multiplayer and personality.

You're going to have to do better to convince me they actually wanted to drop series staple modes like Ring shot.



Nintendo are the ones who chose to compare it to the GBA RPG modes in advertising, stating it was the first mode like it since the GBA game. So it'stheir fault for setting that expectation.

No, it isn't. They just said that for the first time in years a Mario Tennis had a story mode and with RPG elements. That was it. The GBA being in there was just to point out the last one.

If it was bad is another story. What was said is in there, a story mode and RPG elements.
 

Egida

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,386
No, it isn't. They just said that for the first time in years a Mario Tennis had a story mode and with RPG elements. That was it. The GBA being in there was just to point out the last one.
If you choose to believe that, well, ok. But you can't expect everyone to agree with you. IMO is utterly naive to think they didn't know what expectations they were setting. On a personal note, I'll say I never expected something as good as the GBA game, but then...

If it was bad is another story. What was said is in there, a story mode and RPG elements
Oh, it is bad. Irrelevant RPG elements just to tick the checkbox. Terrible, barebones presentation and it's not just the campaign, but the lack of content and options. It shows a lack of care I didn't expect from Nintendo.
 

The Boat

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Oct 28, 2017
3,877
I've actually been learning a lot playing the adventure mode. As someone who sucks at Tennis games, the levels forced to me understand how important it is to control ball placement, how useful retuning to the center after returning the ball might be, how to get the timing right to block zone shots, etc. It doesn't do a great job of explaining these things to you, but without getting better at these I wasn't able to pass the levels.

Not being able to retry is annoying, but I'm pretty sure it's there so you don't just grind and grind. The beginning conversation of a level is skippable and the one where you lose isn't for a reason: when you lose, Toad usually gives you hints about what you're supposed to be learning/getting better at to finish that level. They could let you retry before finishing without winning xp and Toad could give you the hint without exiting to the map, next to a retry option, that would've been a better solution.

Also, the bowser nets return the ball with a strong "swing" that pushes you back if you don't respond with the correct swing. The ones with stars let you do zone shots, which obviously let you aim, but also destroy several nets at once. This is pretty obvious from trying it once.

Timed bosses make sense because you lose time for making mistakes, in other words, the idea is that you are able to reach and return the balls correctly. Where the punishment in a regular game is the opponent scoring, here you lose time. Seems pretty logical to me. Not to mention that the adventure mode is also supposed to put people in different situations than a regular tennis match to switch (pun not intended) up.

As far as online goes, the lack of more options for game duration is absurd but I was actually surprised at how the game lets you easily create rooms and set or search for the rules you want. It seems pretty sturdy and functional, more than usual in a Nintendo game, you can even see your opponents connection status before accepting the match, something missing from most or all of Nintendo's online games. Low bar, I know.

Other than the duration of the match (which is a pretty big omission), what exactly are the options missing? Because I see people saying the match options are barebones and I see plenty of options, so it kinda seems to me like people are focusing on one missing thing and ignoring everything else. Maybe I'm missing something.

I haven't finished the game yet, still need to play some more, I agree that the adventure mode is very basic and barebones and that there are a few things missing, but this thread seems disproportionally negative to the game I'm playing, which has really strong core mechanics, plays good, looks good and seems to have a reasonable variety of content.
 
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RockyMin

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Oct 27, 2017
1,450
No surprise there. When I read that this game would have all characters unlocked to begin with, I knew it wouldn't be a good SP game and skipped it. It's why I didn't bother getting MK8 DX for Switch either.
 

Deleted member 22422

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Oct 28, 2017
253
It's blatantly a rush job. There's just enough content to cut together a good looking trailer that hinted at a bigger, better game. They exploited my love of Nintendo and my thirst for a tennis game! Actually I still like the gameplay a lot. Just wish it had another year in development to fulfil its potential.
 

New Fang

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,542
It is surprising how shallow it is. I appreciate that its a big step up from Wii U, though...

Mario Golf World Tour was way deeper and I was hoping for something nearly as fleshed out as that:

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Thanks for reminding me that they referenced this game when introducing Aces single player mode. smh