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Manbig

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,306
I just checked the Google Play store and I don't see it yet. I'm in east coast US.
 

PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
Member
Oct 25, 2017
115,662
What is with these gacha games hiding the "use this character to be your loan character" button because it's always like on one screen that isn't completely obvious

They want everyone to be burdened by that shitty catboy with the terrible voice actor for as long as possible.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,301
The game is pretty generous. If you play for about an hour you can buy the free 5* ticket with in game currency, you also start the game with a free 5* of your choice and if you pre registered you get another one. The login bonuses includes 5* weapon and 5* character tickets on the list. You can actually farm the crystal currency needed to pull characters from the events too.
 

Xetherion

Member
Oct 30, 2017
466
...Are there games with higher than 5% rates on 5 stars?
Final Fantasy Record Keeper has 14% 5* rate.
5% is five times higher than the most popular gacha game in the world and higher than almost any other gacha game out there. Wut.
What game is the most popular?
Thats about double, or in some cases qunituple the common gacha rate for several of the biggest games in the "genre"
Precisely why i don't play most gacha games.
 

Dukie85

Chicken Chaser
Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,532
Going through the low missions with 3 lvl 60 5* characters feels wrong, but at the same time, it's damn satisfying... lol
 

Uthred

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,567
Precisely why i don't play most gacha games.

Sure, thats your perogative and you may not like the standard gacha rates, I could certainly live with higher ones myself, but the game still has higher rates than the majority of gacha games. Most of the most popular games only hit 5% during special events or in the case of FGO never, but fuck FGO's gacha.
 

sensui-tomo

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,629
my ID is : X8J72FPZQC
going to add people in here since i might get into this game, its a fun time sink.
 

nikos

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,998
New York, NY
When choosing the first 5* character/class to draw, am I choosing that class forever? I checked out the Google doc, and there's definitely another character I want to main. Not sure if she's available yet, but I'll choose my class accordingly if I need to.
 

PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
Member
Oct 25, 2017
115,662
When choosing the first 5* character/class to draw, am I choosing that class forever? I checked out the Google doc, and there's definitely another character I want to main. Not sure if she's available yet, but I'll choose my class accordingly if I need to.

No. It's just picking your starting 5* character. You're free to get lots of others as you go.
 

Caim

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,499
I should also mention the Friendship Gauge system:

Playing with friends that are mutually followed will. Once you max the gauge, you will receive rewards. You can only do this once a day per person and the bar will reset on the following day with a different reward:

Day 1 : Prism Platinum x5
Day 2 : Platinum Hammer x1
Day 3 : Prism Platinum x5
Day 4 : Prism Crystal x1
Day 5 : Limit Breaker S x5
Day 6 : Prism Platinum x5
Day 7 : Platinum Ingot x5
Day 8 : Prism Platinum x5
Day 9 : Platinum Hammer x1
Day 10 : Gems x500
Resets back to Day 1
 

Xetherion

Member
Oct 30, 2017
466
Sure, thats your perogative and you may not like the standard gacha rates, I could certainly live with higher ones myself, but the game still has higher rates than the majority of gacha games. Most of the most popular games only hit 5% during special events or in the case of FGO never, but fuck FGO's gacha.
The recent gachas i've tried, like FEH and DFFOO, have 5% 5* rates as the standard. Didn't know FGO was so popular, but if it has 1% 5* rate than definitely fuck that game's gacha and i pity the poor saps who are hooked on that shit.
 

PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
Member
Oct 25, 2017
115,662
The recent gachas i've tried, like FEH and DFFOO, have 5% 5* rates as the standard. Didn't know FGO was so popular, but if it has 1% 5* rate than definitely fuck that game's gacha and i pity the poor saps who are hooked on that shit.

FGO is a game that is supported almost entirely by obsessive whales. No one else can really compete because of how garbage its rates are.
 

Dreamboum

Member
Oct 28, 2017
22,864
I've tried the game in closed beta and haven't been feeling it. I might jump if the Resonance of Fate collab event happens though. I would have jumped in but since SMT Dx2 is happening, I'm going to play this instead.
 

Xetherion

Member
Oct 30, 2017
466
Bullshit. This game is far more forgiving and less scammy than most Gacha games. If you're going to shit on a game, at least know what you're talking about.
Nothing in my post is bullshit, it's the stated facts in the OP. I've played plenty of gachas and most of them had a standard 5% 5* rate, FEH and DFFOO just to name a couple.

If you don't think 5% 5* rate is shitty, you're entitled to your opinion, just as i'm entitled to mine.
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,411
Nothing in my post is bullshit, it's the stated facts in the OP. I've played plenty of gachas and most of them had a standard 5% 5* rate, FEH and DFFOO just to name a couple.

If you don't think 5% 5* rate is shitty, you're entitled to your opinion, just as i'm entitled to mine.

This simply is not true and is, in fact, bullshit. It's not an opinion, it's flat out wrong.
 

Uthred

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,567
Nothing in my post is bullshit, it's the stated facts in the OP. I've played plenty of gachas and most of them had a standard 5% 5* rate, FEH and DFFOO just to name a couple.

If you don't think 5% 5* rate is shitty, you're entitled to your opinion, just as i'm entitled to mine.

FEH? Fire Emblem Heroes? It has a 3% 5* rate.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,301
Nothing in my post is bullshit, it's the stated facts in the OP. I've played plenty of gachas and most of them had a standard 5% 5* rate, FEH and DFFOO just to name a couple.

If you don't think 5% 5* rate is shitty, you're entitled to your opinion, just as i'm entitled to mine.

You just want to post your HOT TAKE that this game is not for you because it has a 5% 5* that's fine but if you actually played the game you would see that right now you get 3 x 5* for free anyway and enough items to level them up to 60 for free. You can also farm the currency required to pull from the gacha. So yes it's a pretty generous game and it's fine if you want to share with us that it's not for you but I feel we get your point already.
 

Skyfireblaze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,257
Maria should be enough, I would reroll since it only takes a few minutes depending on your download speed or easier if your phone is rooted. I'd personally rather have 2 different 5 star characters than just one though.

Hmm point taken, I might roll if I can find out how to easily clear save-data on a jailbroken iPhone.
 

Uthred

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,567
FEH has 3% for focus units and 3% for non-focus units, for a total 6% 5* rate.

That's a rather disingenuous way of putting it. It absolutely does not have a "6% 5* rate" it has a 3% 5* rate, if you are lucky enough to an orb of the right colour for a focus unit to come up then you have a 6% chance of getting a 5* unit (assuming the odds are additive). Its quite the stretch to suggest that because three units on a banner have a conditional 6% chance that the game has a general 6% chance for 5* units. And even if it did that would put it in the same bracket as SOA.
 

Xetherion

Member
Oct 30, 2017
466
That's a rather disingenuous way of putting it. It absolutely does not have a "6% 5* rate" it has a 3% 5* rate, if you are lucky enough to an orb of the right colour for a focus unit to come up then you have a 6% chance of getting a 5* unit (assuming the odds are additive). Its quite the stretch to suggest that because three units on a banner have a conditional 6% chance that the game has a general 6% chance for 5* units. And even if it did that would put it in the same bracket as SOA.
WTF is disingenuous about it? If a unit is 5*, it's 5*, it doesn't matter if it's a focus unit or even if it's the same color. I never said anything about rates for SPECIFIC units, i don't even know WTF the rates for SPECIFIC units in this new game are so I wouldn't be able to make a comparison.

Edit: nevermind, i get what you're saying. If you get a orb color on a banner that doesn't have a focus unit of that color then the 5* rate is only 3%, yeah. My bad.
 

nikos

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,998
New York, NY
I don't know if the setting part even works? I downloaded the high res pack after a certain part of the story, changed it to that, but the resolution did not change at all on my phone.
Normal and High seem to be exactly the same. Even when going back to the Title Screen, selecting Normal or High and commencing the download for each, the graphics look exactly the same. Hopefully it's fixed soon.
 

Zafir

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,036
Has anyone used that APK on the reroll page? Is it legit? No other sites seem to have it up yet.

That's a rather disingenuous way of putting it. It absolutely does not have a "6% 5* rate" it has a 3% 5* rate, if you are lucky enough to an orb of the right colour for a focus unit to come up then you have a 6% chance of getting a 5* unit (assuming the odds are additive). Its quite the stretch to suggest that because three units on a banner have a conditional 6% chance that the game has a general 6% chance for 5* units. And even if it did that would put it in the same bracket as SOA.
I thought it actually selected the character and displayed the colour for the character rather than the other way around when you pull, which means your post wouldn't be accurate either.

Either way, the fact you can snipe colours does increase your chance, anyway. I think that's what pulls it above some of the other gacha games. (Not that it's saying much since the gacha model is still pretty crappy regardless IMO, you just put up with it because you like the games)
 

Uthred

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,567
Has anyone used that APK on the reroll page? Is it legit? No other sites seem to have it up yet.

Yes and yes.


I thought it actually selected the character and displayed the colour for the character rather than the other way around when you pull, which means your post wouldn't be accurate either.

Either way, the fact you can snipe colours does increase your chance, anyway. I think that's what pulls it above some of the other gacha games. (Not that it's saying much since the gacha model is still pretty crappy regardless IMO, you just put up with it because you like the games)

I've no idea if the orb is a magicians choice or not. Honestly I fucking loathe FEH's gacha, while it has a slightly higher rate the fact you can pull a garbage version of a 5* means the rates dont really mean shit. At least in this, or GBF, or Blech, or fuck even FGO, if you get a 5* character you know they're good to go. Though this game has limit breaks so perhaps its like Danmachi where you need to get multiple copies?
 

entrydenied

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
7,565
Lol. I picked Maria for my free character, got her again when 8 used the 5 * Ace ticket and got her one more time with a regular draw... Going to reroll...
 

Skyfireblaze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,257
Oh and did anyone else kind of chuckled at the premise of this game basically being Star Trek: Voyager?
 

kyorii

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,983
Splatlandia
You don't need multiple copies to limit break. There are limit break crystals you can farm from events and also receive from login/achievements that let you LB the character
 

sensui-tomo

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,629
so if you pull 2 of the same character, its basically a dud right? (i havent done this yet)
 

Zafir

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,036
Cool, i'll give it a try then.
I've no idea if the orb is a magicians choice or not. Honestly I fucking loathe FEH's gacha, while it has a slightly higher rate the fact you can pull a garbage version of a 5* means the rates dont really mean shit. At least in this, or GBF, or Blech, or fuck even FGO, if you get a 5* character you know they're good to go. Though this game has limit breaks so perhaps its like Danmachi where you need to get multiple copies?
Oh don't get me wrong. I think the nature system is shit, I've said that from the beginning - it's another way to try and milk money from people. Though I will admit, even despite that being there, I think I'd still rather FEH's system over FFBE or FGO's garbage rates, I'll take having a slightly weaker version of a unit than not getting a unit at all which is what happens in those two games. I think Id put Granblue above them all though, just a shame it's so grindy.
 

Hikari

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,690
Elysium
Hello I just started the game. Is there a way to change the screen so I'm not holding my phone like it's standing? Can't play like this.