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5taquitos

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It's kind of scary to think about, but I was ripe for online radicalization in my early 20s. I spent most of my nights surfing chans and loling at offensive posts, never thinking about what it may have been doing to me. It was classic "I'm not a racist or a mysoginist but I'm laughing at these jokes" kind of thing. It was all for the lulz, right?

I remember having a conversation with my friend in my mid-20s where I was questioning whether I might actually be a sociopath. I don't know if that was a conscious turning point, but it felt like a bit of a wake-up call.

The chan culture fed off my apathy, or maybe the other way around. I think critical thinking kept me from ever falling too deep in, but I cringe looking back at what I was.

Basically, there are probably countless aimless white males like me who weren't able to bring themselves out of it, and that shit is scary. Those communities are a blight.
 

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Yep, in high school I was eagerly subscribed to The Amazing Atheist and Thunderf00t. Watched all their videos. Back then they were more anti-religion than anti-feminist, but they definitely had that streak going, and had I kept watching it would have turned fast. I was definitely on team "feminism was useful once but it poison now" and team "nothing is offensive you're just whining."

Don't know what got me to stop feeding into that culture, but every god damn day I'm grateful I didn't fall into it further.
 

Numb

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Oct 25, 2017
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Apathy isnt exclusive to aimless white males. Many people feel it and are cold to shit but they dont run the risk of being radicalized as much. Why?
Is it cos those offensive posts somehow target none whites and females.More so they are easier to recruite to be one of the ones throwing them?
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geomon

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was totally apathetic in my 20's and wasn't prone to radicalization. Personal accountability has to be taken at some point. Personally, I think at some point people just cement themselves as shitty people.
 

Skelepuzzle

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Apr 17, 2018
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I've been plenty apathetic but wouldn't have fallen into white supremacy bullshit. Maybe that's due to not being completely white, or just not being a complete asshole.

I did have more misogynistic leanings in my teenage years due to having complete assholes for parents, but that shit left right quick in my very early 20's when I was fortunate enough to get out of that environment and met my wife.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Apathy isnt exclusive to aimless white males. Many people feel it and are cold to shit but they dont run the risk of being radicalized as much. Why?
Is it cos those offensive posts somehow target none whites and females.More so they are easier to recruite to be one of the ones throwing them?
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I think this might be a big part of it. White males are almost never the target of the jokes they're laughing at or thinking are harmless internet laughs.
 
Oct 25, 2017
21,468
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i would have been radicalized for sure if the alt-right surge happened ten years ago

i was entertaining a lot of edgelord ideas at that time (feminism has gone too far, women don't want good men, political correctness is lame, maybe climate science IS actually a hoax [in my defense, i only entertained this possibility for a couple of months], politics has no role in games criticism, i DESERVED to be noticed by girls, all religion is bad and all religious people are stupid, enjoyed /b/ humour, you can joke about anything)

believe it or not, gaf saved me
 

DigitalOp

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Nov 16, 2017
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I think this might be a big part of it. White males are almost never the target of the jokes they're laughing at or thinking are harmless internet laughs.

But as soon as they are targeted, the narrative turns into feelings and rules of being a hard ass goes out the window.

I chalk it more up to simply people who love to dish shit but can't take it. There is an entire generation of it forming now. An entire political party that thrives off the tactic.
 

leafcutter

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Feb 14, 2018
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Apathy isnt exclusive to aimless white males. Many people feel it and are cold to shit but they dont run the risk of being radicalized as much. Why?
Is it cos those offensive posts somehow target none whites and females.More so they are easier to recruite to be one of the ones throwing them?
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This is absolutely true.

It doesn't feed off of apathy as much as it feeds off of resentment and feelings of unfulfilled entitlement. I was extremely apathetic (politically speaking) in my early/mid 20s, and I also stayed up all night browsing 4chan and other internet shitholes. Having a good social life, family, and decent opportunities is what really kept me from "going too deep" (not sure how else to phrase that, but I do think it's a slippery slope.)

The stereotypical young angry white male is angry because he grew up being told that the world will be his, and shortly after turning 18 and exiting high school, many of them realize that isn't true. Rather than coming to terms with being an average mediocre guy, he'll blame literally anyone else for this perceived slight. Enter 4chan and right-wing youtube, ready to scoop them up and provide them with a false sense of community.

Young women and non-whites who are feeling down-and-out aren't going to find friends and encouragement on shitty racist websites.
 

okayfrog

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Oct 25, 2017
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If 4chan a decade ago was the way it is now, I would have been radicalized, definitely. Unattractive, sexless, young white male, failing out of college who'd never worked a day in his life? I would have been such an easy target. I sometimes think about the me born ten years after I was, who pretty much went through the same motions up to adulthood. And I'm sure that me is full MAGA right now.
 

Taki

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's kind of scary to think about, but I was ripe for online radicalization in my early 20s. I spent most of my nights surfing chans and loling at offensive posts, never thinking about what it may have been doing to me. It was classic "I'm not a racist or a mysoginist but I'm laughing at these jokes" kind of thing. It was all for the lulz, right?

I remember having a conversation with my friend in my mid-20s where I was questioning whether I might actually be a sociopath. I don't know if that was a conscious turning point, but it felt like a bit of a wake-up call.

The chan culture fed off my apathy, or maybe the other way around. I think critical thinking kept me from ever falling too deep in, but I cringe looking back at what I was.

Basically, there are probably countless aimless white males like me who weren't able to bring themselves out of it, and that shit is scary. Those communities are a blight.

Was there the internet and forums online back in your 20s? It's a lot more easier to radicalize than ever because people with extremist opinions can easily find each other, and once they do, their opinions no longer seem as extreme to themselves anymore. That's a lot of self reinforcement.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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But as soon as they are targeted, the narrative turns into feelings and rules of being a hard ass goes out the window.

I chalk it more up to simply people who love to dish shit but can't take it. There is an entire generation of it forming now. An entire political party that thrives off the tactic.

I was so close to also including how butthurt and unable to deal with it they are if you check 4chan and look at any thread about #metoo (which obviously isn't exclusive white males, but they've been most of the outed celebs) or anytime a minority is cast as a film lead (which doesn't even negatively affect them, so much as it gives other groups more representation). Anything that remotely challenges their build up notions of entitlement and white male centric worldview, which some of them can't even admit to, and they completely collapse
 

Chekhonte

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I definitely had racist thoughts as a teen but that was in the 90's and compuserve didn't have the user base create large pools of like minded idiots. If these racist ideas I harbored back then had been massively reinforced in these isolated groups, I fear the person I might have grown up to be.
 

_ifigured

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Oct 29, 2017
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The only person from my orbit that didn't either succeed in college or attempt to make a career for himself became radicalized as a right wing conspiracy troll and is now essentially a permanent high schooler trapped in adult body. They got to him. A few years ago I would call him a good friend even though I moved a thousand miles away. Now its not worth it to even keep him on social media or PSN. Total lost cause of a human.
 
Feb 1, 2018
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I was on the chans in 2004-2011 and it was way different than it is now. I'm also a POC, though, so I'm not sure if I would have been radicalized as the white identity politics definitely isn't aimed at me, and that kind of rhetoric was also not even on that site in the capacity/frequency that it is after like 2014-2015 to present.

Was mostly just on there "for the lolz", as they say...and I was totally a little edgy incel in high school, before that term was coined and popularized.
 

corasaur

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Oct 26, 2017
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it doesn't really seem like online radicalization occurs from apathy. it feels like it occurs from self-centeredness. like 'these people who aren't me MUST be lying when they talk about suffering that I can't relate to. Pain that isn't mine can't exist."

if you just go "nothing matters, stop complaining" and truly feel that way, i feel like you have a shot at making it out of that dark place without turning into an evil asshole. you might eventually develop empathy or snap out of the funk.


i guess i'm not sure what causes that switch over to "it is a personal insult that people think pain other than mine might be valid," though. that dark jump from "nothing matters, suffering is inevitable, don't get triggered so easily" to "fuck you be sad" sure is scary.
 

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I was on the chans in 2004-2011 and it was way different than it is now. I'm also a POC, though, so I'm not sure if I would have been radicalized as the white identity politics definitely isn't aimed at me, and that kind of rhetoric was also not even on that site in the capacity/frequency that it is after like 2014-2015 to present.

Was mostly just on there "for the lolz", as they say...and I was totally a little edgy incel in high school, before that term was coined and popularized.

It wasn't as bad as it is now at the start, they had their moments. Now combine what they are now with social media and the organising and recruitment pipelines are set.

I visited a hardcore white supermecy forum in like 05 for a presentation about modern racism I was doing for a class. That scared the shit out of me. They ve changed to present a more pleasant and less in immediately violent and "race tratior" face these days. Which is worse.
 
Feb 1, 2018
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It wasn't as bad as it is now at the start, they had their moments. Now combine what they are now with social media and the organising and recruitment pipelines are set.

I visited a hardcore white supermecy forum in like 05 for a presentation about modern racism I was doing for a class. That scared the shit out of me. They ve changed to present a more pleasant and less in immediately violent and "race tratior" face these days. Which is worse.

Yeah I remember stumbling across stormfront, that shit was indeed scary. /b/ at the time was mostly just gore and funny greentexts/memes.

This was before social media became the primary method for global far-right propaganda and psychological programming.
 

Resetta Stone

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Oct 26, 2017
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I was an "active" member (active as in, barely posted, lurked about, but checked out posts here and there) of a GameFAQs offshoot board that wanted so desperately to be like 4chan. I never felt radicalized, but over time I become discontent with it and left. Even then I hated the all-or-nothing, dog-eat-dipshit type of attitude that festered there. It was all about one upping other posters by how much perceived social capita you had by bragging about going to loud keggers and hooking up. There was also the typical misogynistic paranoia about their girlfriends cheating on them and shit. Keep in mind, this was the era like 8 years ago when everyone was in college and diving head first in that PUA garbage which didn't help matters.

[EDIT] For what it's worth however, I simultaneously was a poster at the SomethingAwful forums which made fun of the dumb shit aforementioned. Even then, they still had their own issues much like any other closed off forum.
 

Temascos

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Oct 27, 2017
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I remember watching Amazing Atheist a lot when I was in my early 20s, throughout my life I had grown frustrated with what I saw as religious hypocrisy ruining our world with the likes of Bin Laden and George W. Bush (That was the reasoning in my head). When he went against feminism though I guess I drew a line as the people who have helped me the most in my life have been women and I've seen first hand how sexism hurts everyone and I believed feminism was a force for good.

But I could have very easily been swayed by the Alt-Right, particularly the Incel groups if they were around when I was younger. I HATED people who they would see as Chads or whatever, and I was the 'Nice Guy' who was ever so polite and perfect except for my height. Thank fuck I didn't go into social media groups with like-minded people.
 

low-G

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have only ever been vulnerable to far-left radicalization.

I remember being in elementary school and talking with classmates and their parents about Bush Sr. and not knowing how the fuck they could possibly be so dense about so much. All the hypocrisy and ignorance was completely self-evident to me even at 1st or 2nd grade.
 

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i would have been radicalized for sure if the alt-right surge happened ten years ago

i was entertaining a lot of edgelord ideas at that time (feminism has gone too far, women don't want good men, political correctness is lame, maybe climate science IS actually a hoax [in my defense, i only entertained this possibility for a couple of months], politics has no role in games criticism, i DESERVED to be noticed by girls, all religion is bad and all religious people are stupid, enjoyed /b/ humour, you can joke about anything)

believe it or not, gaf saved me
I can relate, I wasnt into most of that stuff but I was deeply entrenched in my pornography addiction and GAF was the first place to really make me question my behavior and led me to seeking help and dealing with my problems.
 

Orb

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Oct 27, 2017
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I feel the same way. There was a time in my high school years when I was on the verge of alt-right ideals. And the scary part is at the time I did not consider myself to be sexist or racist, but held ideas that were obviously so when I look back on it.

Oddly enough, despite the fact that video game communities often spawn some horrible shit, I credit them with pushing me in the opposite direction. Through following marginalized developers, writers, and other gaming folks on Twitter, I was exposed to the horrible shit they have to put up with and it really boosted my empathy with the world at large.
 

Ultima_5

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it doesn't really seem like online radicalization occurs from apathy. it feels like it occurs from self-centeredness. like 'these people who aren't me MUST be lying when they talk about suffering that I can't relate to. Pain that isn't mine can't exist."

if you just go "nothing matters, stop complaining" and truly feel that way, i feel like you have a shot at making it out of that dark place without turning into an evil asshole. you might eventually develop empathy or snap out of the funk.


i guess i'm not sure what causes that switch over to "it is a personal insult that people think pain other than mine might be valid," though. that dark jump from "nothing matters, suffering is inevitable, don't get triggered so easily" to "fuck you be sad" sure is scary.

this is kind of how I feel about it. if you cant view anything about yourself as a fault, youre going to blame other groups for your problems.

I feel like a lot of people in this thread arent giving themselves enough credit. if you were able to grow and learn how to be a better person chances are you wouldn't have been radicalized if you were a teen now. maybe you would've gone through a phase or something, but chances are you would've realized what you were doing and moved on to improve. lets not act like people were fucking horrible on the internet 10/15 years ago.

edit, though social media has changed things a bit. idk. its one of those things where the more stuff changes, the more it stays the same.
 

TheGhost

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Oct 25, 2017
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A decade ago the only forum I browsed was The Rec Room on SOHH. Those were good times. No chance of radicalization there but fuckery galore.
 
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But as soon as they are targeted, the narrative turns into feelings and rules of being a hard ass goes out the window.

I chalk it more up to simply people who love to dish shit but can't take it. There is an entire generation of it forming now. An entire political party that thrives off the tactic.
Another tactic they use is to distance themselves from the target within their own ranks. They disown him so they can claim he isn't representative of the group as a whole.

I wish I could find a comic posted on /v/ that was a pretty brutal takedown of its users, drawn by one of its users. It was a crudely drawn, grotesque figure who's features represented all the negative qualities of /v/ users, but could be applied to 4chan as a whole for the most part. Things like self-loathing, resentment, self-destruction, delusion, infantilization, self-aggrandization, etc.
 

Conciliator

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Oct 25, 2017
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I definitely saw the pathway as a young more bitter man

I agree with those that say apathy is not the main factor, it's bitterness and resentment. It's "I'm a white male teenager in the suburbs who can't get laid and is somewhat overweight and socially awkward, and no one else's pain is comparable to that, so I can do anything to anyone." As like some kind of vengeance against the world.

Fortunately by the time GG happened I was grown up enough(and also had spent enough time of the internet looking at bullshit)
 

linkboy

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Oct 26, 2017
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I grew up in an uber conservative family.

What broke me from that mold was joining the Air Force. I got to travel to Japan, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan and Qatar. I got to work and interact with people from those respective countries. Those experiences had a profound effect on shaping my world views. When I was in Korea, I met a lot of expats who were teachers, and they helped shape my views as well.

Had I not gotten those experiences, I very easily could have seen myself becoming radicalized. Its not very hard to fall down that rabbit hole, but it's very hard to escape from it if you do
 

Mona

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Oct 30, 2017
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White male here, I dont think I've ever been close to getting fully absorbed into any psudo-dogmatic or overly tribalistic movements

Perhaps that is the position of actual true apathy

Radicalized apathy is an oxymoron
 
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okayfrog

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Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like a lot of people in this thread arent giving themselves enough credit. if you were able to grow and learn how to be a better person chances are you wouldn't have been radicalized if you were a teen now. maybe you would've gone through a phase or something, but chances are you would've realized what you were doing and moved on to improve. lets not act like people were fucking horrible on the internet 10/15 years ago.
Nah, things are different now. A decade ago, when I was moaning on 4chan about tfwnogf for hours on end, there weren't others tossing around statistics detailing the crime rates of different races in every other post. There weren't people trying to get me to vote for Donald Trump for the lulz (but also so immigrants won't take our jobs (that I wouldn't even be working)). There wasn't an effort by white supremacist groups to recruit folks through incredibly popular online multiplayer games -- and if there was, they certainly weren't reaching the amount of folks they reach today.

I take no credit for any changes I've made. I chalk it all up to age and those around me who were gracious enough to put up with my dumbass shit for years.
 

kai3345

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I think gaf was definitely a huge factor in helping me to develop a sense of empathy
 

Ultima_5

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Nah, things are different now. A decade ago, when I was moaning on 4chan about tfwnogf for hours on end, there weren't others tossing around statistics detailing the crime rates of different races in every other post. There weren't people trying to get me to vote for Donald Trump for the lulz (but also so immigrants won't take our jobs (that I wouldn't even be working)). There wasn't an effort by white supremacist groups to recruit folks through incredibly popular online multiplayer games -- and if there was, they certainly weren't reaching the amount of folks they reach today.

I take no credit for any changes I've made. I chalk it all up to age and those around me who were gracious enough to put up with my dumbass shit for years.

maybe you're right, and im just being a bit to hopeful. idk I remember seeing horribly racist/sexist/homophobic stuff all the time when I was online, and even when I was an edgy teenager it started to make me uncomfortable once I actually thought about what I was reading/seeing and thinking about it in context.

I do think the most eye-opening thing that's happening now vs when I was a teenager is the fact people are okay w/ posting hate stuff with their name and face next to it. I always remember people saying that having names/faces next to post would help cut it down, but we've gotten to the point to see that doesn't seem to matter.

I do think I was lucky in some ways to find GAF as early as I did. I know that place (and this place) has its share of problems, but especially back when I was a teenager it helped me learn and grow in the right direction (atleast in the internet sense).
 

see5harp

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Oct 31, 2017
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I'm not going to normalize or even empathize with these fucking weirdos. I'm apathetic as hell and live a normal ass boring life.
 

The Albatross

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I would have been easily radicalized into MRA stuff when I was in high school ~20 years ago, the prime time for wanting to feel like a victim. I was into nerd culture, I had friends in school but often felt depressed or like I wasn't welcome, was constantly frustrated about girls, etc. If these sorts of communities were around telling me, "You're not the problem, women are the problem," then it's something I definitely would have been open to. At the same time, I was so interested in being counter-cultural, or wanting to be edgy, that I could have been pulled either way into some ideological extreme... Mostly, in high school, that took the form of just stupid teenage shit like nonsense anarchism, marxism, atheism, and other largely benign ideologies that most teenagers start to explore, and finding, like, a legitimate racist hate group trying to recruit new members wasn't something that was as common.

I was active on internet BBS going back into the 90s, and while they were self-selective (mostly around nerdy, tech-focused things -- something that unified most young men on the internet at the time), they weren't as ideologically self-selective and bias-affirming as they are now. You were more likely to locate a group that interested you around a topic rather than a social identity, the ISPs took an active role monitoring their BBS' both for good and for bad. Prodigy BBS, where I used to go, maintained that you kept everything on topic, constantly deleted content that went off point, and notified/banned/suspended internet service accounts for not following the ToS. That sort of control just doesn't exist anymore, nobody is going to go on your ISP's BBS to talk about videogames... or politics... or anything else, and nobody would have much patience for an ISP that still takes your money, but bans you from using the internet because of things you wrote online.

Although, I also remember my first introduction to Alex Jones and InfoWars, back in the early to mid 2000s. I was introduced to it from a videogame forum, but it was in one of the million daily conspiracy theory forum arguments, where -- as a young person -- you just took it as a likely fact that Bush did 9/11 to invade Iraq and that Clinton was running false flag operations in Texas to get Americans used to the invasion of their neighborhoods and the militarization of America. At the time, I associated someone like Alex Jones as being an anti-Republican extreme liberal, it's something I didn't really understand, that a far right conservative would also be anti-Bush, because for me, I was anti-Bush because of the 2000 election (I was a teenager and it was one of the first times I felt truly passionate about an political event, something that wasn't passive like 'Save the Whales' or 'the Hole in the O-Zone layer'), and so the idea that some guy criticized both the Clintons and Bushes felt different as if he must be speaking some truth. Luckily, though, I never got pulled into that direction. I went to college right around the same time and more or less became an anti-conspiracy theorist, after having thankfully been guided in the right direction by intelligent people.
 
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rjinaz

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's kind of scary to think about, but I was ripe for online radicalization in my early 20s. I spent most of my nights surfing chans and loling at offensive posts, never thinking about what it may have been doing to me. It was classic "I'm not a racist or a mysoginist but I'm laughing at these jokes" kind of thing. It was all for the lulz, right?

I remember having a conversation with my friend in my mid-20s where I was questioning whether I might actually be a sociopath. I don't know if that was a conscious turning point, but it felt like a bit of a wake-up call.

The chan culture fed off my apathy, or maybe the other way around. I think critical thinking kept me from ever falling too deep in, but I cringe looking back at what I was.

Basically, there are probably countless aimless white males like me who weren't able to bring themselves out of it, and that shit is scary. Those communities are a blight.
I was hard into religion, end times shit, and was watching Fox news daily in the early 2000s during the Iraq war. My 23 year old self would have voted for Trump. Though I'd like to think I would have figured out how shitty he is and regretted it.

Thank god for education and communities like this that introduced me to new perspectives other than the ones my mostly White family and friends had. I got over Christianity when I was told Harry Potter was evil and I was a huge fan. So thanks my old church for that. The brain washing of Fox news is quite effective but once I had to pay for my own cable which I didn't want to do, I stopped watching it.

So, people can most definitely change. But I stand by that they have to want to. I was never an angry person by nature and I was always open to learning. If you close off your mind or just become hateful, you're pretty much lost.
 

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I probably would've turned alt-right in my early teens. I have a Christian family and they enrolled me in a toxic, confined Christian school. I grew resentful of that, and I found outlets in punk music and video games, which I attribute to the early formation of my feelings today.
The stereotypical young angry white male is angry because he grew up being told that the world will be his, and shortly after turning 18 and exiting high school, many of them realize that isn't true. Rather than coming to terms with being an average mediocre guy, he'll blame literally anyone else for this perceived slight. Enter 4chan and right-wing youtube, ready to scoop them up and provide them with a false sense of community.
I believe it's real community that instead provides a false sense of hope. Assholes form real bonds too. For some their hopes might even be realized by conforming too. There are plenty of internally misogynistic women eager to please these fellas. I think this is important to realize, because it could be viable to use the first parts of the same playbook the Right uses but in later parts teach young people how there is a different way, where everyone can be treated fairly, and why that entitlement is wrong.
 

Ultima_5

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I probably would've turned alt-right in my early teens. I have a Christian family and they enrolled me in a toxic, confined Christian school. I grew resentful of that, and I found outlets in punk music and video games, which I attribute to the early formation of my feelings today.

I've joked with friends that the lack of good punk albums during the Obama administration led to the younger white guys to go through their teenage years w/o a healthy outlet.

I've been starting to wonder how far off I was though. I know it certainly helped me when I was that age
 
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I wouldn't have called myself "apathetic" per se, but my priorities weren't in order. Between my late teens to mid twenties, I was very much anti-PC and anti-censorship. That stuff made me angrier than it had any business to. Honestly, I'm pretty sure I would have fallen into the Gamergate crowd had things gone slightly different. I think online communities such as this one helped me snap out of it.
 

Gorger

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Oct 25, 2017
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One of my first political passions was LGBT-rights, so I never strayed away from progressive thoughts and ideologies. At worst I could be somewhat anti-religious and edgy, but never in a way that I wanted to infringe on anyone's rights. But back then during the early days of Youtube the online discourse topics were usually pseudo-science, creationism, evolution, gay marriage, atheism and climate change. And your opponents were usually very religious, republican and conservative. Crazy how much that has changed. I remember really enjoying the videos from people like TheAmazingAtheist and Thunderf00t, now I am not even subscribed to them. Only a few left from those days that I really like like potholer54 and AronRa.
 
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Oct 26, 2017
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I've found myself lately in a state of "true social apathy" in which if I were ever offered a path to radicalization (even if unconsciously), I would care too little or be too lazy to go down said path.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I definitely saw the pathway as a young more bitter man

I agree with those that say apathy is not the main factor, it's bitterness and resentment. It's "I'm a white male teenager in the suburbs who can't get laid and is somewhat overweight and socially awkward, and no one else's pain is comparable to that, so I can do anything to anyone." As like some kind of vengeance against the world.
yeah that is basically me ten years ago

i hate 20 year old me, lol
 

Anidav

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Oct 25, 2017
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4chan still is good if you don't click on particular boards, The website would be much better without those boards but those guys would create a home elsewhere anyway.