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Falchion

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, there were like 4 terrible alligations crammed into one Instagram comment. Will be crazy to see how this plays out.
 

Rvaan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nah, that's a cheap excuse. It's about power as always, these guys feel everyone should treat them like kings and the moment someone doesn't they lose the plot.
It's hard to keep the plot if you've been given brain trama for a large part of your life. I'm not trying to defend abuse here but you do have to acknowledge that CTE and other brain trama are going to make NFL players more prone to violent behavior than other sports athletes.
 

platocplx

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Oct 30, 2017
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Well, if the update I posted is true, then someone is claiming Shady hired people to do this.

this is what it seems like, because it wasnt him directly, i checked his page and he posted something about 4 hours from when the picture dropped. which wouldve been around 8 am est, the woman's friend said they came back from a trip at 6pm est it seems like so this all happened between this time frame.

We definitely need more info, but we can condemn this situation right now and also knowing mccoy's history with women he is not a very good person.
 

Merv

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Oct 27, 2017
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Going straight to "what about lesbians" doesn't come across as the least bit homophobic, nope.

Sorry if the fact that it's not just men bothers you. If it makes you feel any better I have seen abuse in hetro relationships from men and women. The point that it's not just men is easier to make with same sex couples. You can fuck off with your label as well.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Going straight to "what about lesbians" doesn't come across as the least bit homophobic, nope.
This isn't whataboutism. If the common thread in domestic violence cases was men, the relationships involving two women should have a lower rate of domestic abuse compared to others. This is presented as evidence that gender isn't as relevant to the discussion as some here think.
 

CrankyJay

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Oct 25, 2017
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this is what it seems like, because it wasnt him directly, i checked his page and he posted something about 4 hours from when the picture dropped. which wouldve been around 8 am est, the woman's friend said they came back from a trip at 6pm est it seems like so this all happened between this time frame.

We definitely need more info, but we can condemn this situation right now and also knowing mccoy's history with women he is not a very good person.

Man, Bills have had some offseason bad luck so far with character/drug issues. He was basically their entire offense.

disclaimer: life long Bills fan here =(
 

Monorojo

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Oct 27, 2017
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Wow that Instagram post looks incredibly disengenous now doesn't it?

The post made it seem McCoy was the one who beat the girl. It makes me question the validity of the rest of the claims as well to be honest.
 

Drax

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wouldn't use Ray Rice but more Josh Brown as a player that got off the hook and was able to play. I don't think McCoy would get over this though.
 

platocplx

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Wow that Instagram post looks incredibly disengenous now doesn't it?

The post made it seem McCoy was the one who beat the girl. It makes me question the validity of the rest of the claims as well to be honest.

honestly all we can say is something happened, also seems like they may have fallen out sometime between may and now so. yeah def again need more info. even if he didnt directly do the beating, this all looks crazy and seems like he probally couldve had someone else do the dirtywork.
 

Morrigan

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Oct 24, 2017
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This situation has just come to light, and news will be very frantic/scattershot at times. We recommend not jumping to conclusions, posting inflammatory drive-by comments, or making excuses for domestic abuse. Thanks.
 

Duxxy3

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Oct 27, 2017
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Unless there's video of it, I doubt anything will come of it.

If Ray Rice wasn't caught on video he might still be playing. If Joe Mixon wasn't caught on video he would have been drafted in the first round.
 
Nov 2, 2017
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If this all ends up being true, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is, then get him the fuck off the Bills and the team.

What's funny is, I am a huge Bills fan and have suggested that the Bills should move on from him this past off season due to his age and previous injuries and was laughed at and mocked by fellow Bills fans. And now this comes out. Bills should have washed their hands of him before the draft.
 

CrankyJay

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Oct 25, 2017
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If this all ends up being true, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is, then get him the fuck off the Bills and the team.

What's funny is, I am a huge Bills fan and have suggested that the Bills should move on from him this past off season due to his age and previous injuries and was laughed at and mocked by fellow Bills fans. And now this comes out. Bills should have washed their hands of him before the draft.

His current predicament doesn't do ANYTHING to validate your claim.
 

Rvaan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Unless there's video of it, I doubt anything will come of it.

If Ray Rice wasn't caught on video he might still be playing. If Joe Mixon wasn't caught on video he would have been drafted in the first round.
I forgot about Joe Mixon. There was also that dude at Florida or FSU (I can't remember) who straight rocked a girl after she slapped him. I can't remember his name.
 

platocplx

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Can someone post the text of the orginal Instagram post?
@shadymccoy is THE DEVIL!!! YOU ARE AN ANIMAL!!!!!! We didn't say anything about how you beat your dog "Henny" into kidney failure. Let's not talk about all the times my best friend had to stop you from VICIOUSLY beating your son for small things like peeing in the bed. We kept quiet about your drug usage ... all the ILLEGAL steroids and needles you were using, but we will not keep quiet about this!!!!!! I can't believe you did this to my best friend!!!!! YOUR KARMA IS GOING TO BE SO REAL!!!!!! The world needs to know what type of animal you really are!!!!!!! This was just her yesterday on the left and now this morning this is her on the right!!!! #WomanBeater #AnimalAbuser#ChildAbuser @nfl @tmz_tv @buffalobills
 

ianpm31

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah I'm going to reserve judgement until we get more info on this because it can go both ways
 

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like this should be a situation that should be easy to get more evidence of.

Is McCoy also in London right now? Who was he in contact with lately? Is there any security video of the multiple men he's being accused of hiring?
 

Betty

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's hard to keep the plot if you've been given brain trama for a large part of your life. I'm not trying to defend abuse here but you do have to acknowledge that CTE and other brain trama are going to make NFL players more prone to violent behavior than other sports athletes.

Fair enough, didn't mean to say you were defending the behaviour and you're right about the trauma affecting their mental decision making.
 

Merv

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Oct 27, 2017
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What the fuck is up with NFL players and domestic abuse?

What the fuck is up with men and domestic abuse?

FTFY


No one said "only men abuse in relationships." Clearly, women can be abusive as well.

Trying to argue a comment regarding the abuse of women by men with "women abuse too" and using lesbian relationships as an example is... strange.

I don't know how you can look at those posts and think they aren't eluding to the problem being only with men. I countered them with proof that It's not just men.

It's not strange at all.

Edit: You made the FTFY post wtf.
 
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Panic Freak

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Oct 26, 2017
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I feel like this should be a situation that should be easy to get more evidence of.

Is McCoy also in London right now? Who was he in contact with lately? Is there any security video of the multiple men he's being accused of hiring?

Jesus dude, the Instagram post is only two hours old. It takes time to confirm these things.
 

gutshot

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Oct 25, 2017
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If it is true that McCoy had a "crew" go beat this girl up, it wouldn't be the first time he has been accused of turning his muscle on a woman.

During the trip, the lawsuit alleges, McCoy, along with his bodyguard and a couple of other guys, began to spray some of the women with water.

Roe claims she protested the water spraying ... so McCoy ordered his bodyguard Big John to "get her."

In the suit, filed May 10 in Philadelphia, the woman claims McCoy and/or Big John proceeded to hit her in the face, causing her to fall to the ground.

While she was on the floor, the men allegedly physically restrained her and poured a beverage onto her hair, clothes and body.

And if things couldn't get worse ... the woman claims McCoy and Big John then forcibly ejected her from the party bus on the side of the New Jersey Turnpike.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/05/14/lesean-mccoy-lawsuit-party-bus-assault-new-jersey-turnpike/
 

Bhonar

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Oct 31, 2017
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I forgot about Joe Mixon. There was also that dude at Florida or FSU (I can't remember) who straight rocked a girl after she slapped him. I can't remember his name.
This is just my opinion, but the Joe Mixon incident is different than Ray Rice or this alleged McCoy incident.

Rice and McCoy cases are with their girlfriends/wives/relationships.

In the Mixon case it was a totally random person at a store/restaurant. In other words, like a random bar fight. It just so happened the other participant was female. Which begs the tangential question -- does it matter what sex the other person is in a random bar fight? What if it was a guy in the Mixon incident? I'm not sure why sex matters in a random fight.

But in any case, Mixon was not domestic/spousal relationship abuse.
 

Tapeworm

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Oct 25, 2017
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As long as he wasn't kneeling during any of these instances, I see no reason he shouldn't sit out more than a game or two.

I expect next to nothing from the NFL.
 

CrankyJay

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Oct 25, 2017
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As long as he wasn't kneeling during any of these instances, I see no reason he shouldn't sit out more than a game or two.

I expect next to nothing from the NFL.

What about doing stretches during the anthem?

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Rvaan

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Oct 25, 2017
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As long as he wasn't kneeling during any of these instances, I see no reason he shouldn't sit out more than a game or two.

I expect next to nothing from the NFL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeSean_McCoy#Personal_life
McCoy took part in the protests, even continuing to stretch during the anthem before a September 24 game against the Denver Broncos. McCoy defended the participation of his teammates and himself in the protests, saying that while the national anthem and flag "meant a lot" to himself and his teammates, he could not "stand and support something when the leader of this country is acting like a jerk."
 

Drax

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ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't know how you can look at those posts and think they aren't eluding to the problem being only with men. I countered them with proof that It's not just men.

It's not strange at all.

Are you trolling?

You countered a statement that was clearly about the rate at which men are physically abusive towards women with "women in lesbian relationships can also be abusive."

What are you doing? Seriously.
 

The Albatross

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Oct 25, 2017
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Jeeeeeesus. And wtf with beating his child and dog ...?

If he's hiring hitmen to beat people up for him, then that's not just an NFL suspension, but like serious jail time for hiring murder for hire.
 

Jam

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yea, let's not make excuses for abuse.

I wouldn't say it's an 'excuse', but it is probably contributing factor to why but he still did it.

It doesn't let him off, give him sympathy or anything. He still brutally beat his partner and should face the full repercussion of the law. He's culpable for his actions.

However we need to talk about CTE in these instances, to try and prevent it in future.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Pretty sure if this turns out to be credible, he is done. We aren't going to see a 2 game suspension for this.

If the accusation is that he sent people to do this, that's a bit more complicated.