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Can't unsee.
More like the other way around, Ubisoft didn't come up with that villain in a vacuum.
Fuck Greg Walden.
He went on his knees to Trump begging for this to appease his redneck voters. Pure scum, and a stain on Oregon.
Rep. Greg Walden (R) from Oregon gains a lot from this, and he's the one that asked Trump to do it.I don't get it, what does Trump gain by doing this? I thought whatever controversy about the case has died down by 2016.
A loyal (and dangerous) fan baseI don't get it, what does Trump gain by doing this? I thought whatever controversy about the case has died down by 2016.
I'd be legit fascinated by what he'd use as an excuse for such an action.
I'm thinking this might happen.
I wouldn't call the Hammond's "terrorists", they started fires and put people in danger sure, but they voluntarily surrendered for their sentences and rejected the efforts of their "supporters" who took over the wildlife refuge(those guys are the terrorists here). They committed crimes and are/were paying for it, but they weren't terrorists.
I'd be legit fascinated by what he'd use as an excuse for such an action.
Yep. And admitted ones at that.
cape for what? calling them "radicalized right wing terrorists" seems like a hell of a stretch to me, these two men were not the ones who occupied the wildlife refuge. It's like people are conflating the two cases.
Yes, this thread is strange.cape for what? calling them "radicalized right wing terrorists" seems like a hell of a stretch to me, these two men were not the ones who occupied the wildlife refuge. It's like people are conflating the two cases.
Cliven Bundy and his merry band of thugs will get pardoned next. The Law & Order president helps out white arsonists lol and The Minstrel Show continues!
lmao damn. White privilege wins again!I hate to tell you this, but Cliven Bundy and merry band of thugs already got cleared of all charges earlier in 2018 and have already gone back to being holed up in their ranch and sucking on the gubment tit for half a year now with the feds' definite chance to nail these guys pretty much permanently gone now. The thing was judged a mistrial in the end.
I don't blame you for not knowing though. In the pre-Trump era, this would have been national news for weeks. With #45 hogging all the spotlight all the time, things like these fall by the wayside. Though in this case that might have been a good thing, because critics were rightfully worried that this would send a message that what Bundy and his family did was ah-okay and more people (preferably white ones) should try and stage a local rebellion against government troops because of course you'll get away with it in the end. So I'm kinda okay with it not having been given lots of time in the spotlight.
Then the arson case these two were convicted for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammond_arson_caseIn 2015, the militants believed they could do this by protesting the treatment of two area ranchers convicted of federal land arson, even though the men in question, father and son Dwight and Steven Dwight Hammond, did not want their help.
the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit vacated these sentences because they were shorter than the statutory mandatory minimum. The Ninth Circuit remanded to the district court for resentencing. The district court subsequently re-sentenced both Hammonds to the mandatory minimum of five years in prison, with credit for time served.
Yeah, that's the weird part. I don't know a ton about the occupation and just started reading up on it after seeing this. I was expecting harsher sentences for armed militants who forcefully took over a National Wildlife Refuge but most of them got off extremely light!I think the big contention with it is that they recieved a weirdo sentence less than the mandatory minimum, I believe as a plea? Then after serving it, the court decided, "nah, nvm lol, yall get the minimum sentence". On that alone I could understand the pardon....
but I completely understand and would expect trump to pardon the terrorists except...
They all mostly got slapped on the wrist. We're talking a shit ton of tiny fines and a handful of multi-year sentences, a lot of jury acquittals too. Fucking insane, I don't think any of them got anything close to even the minimum arsonist sentence.
This is one stupid fucking country.
Title should've been "Trump pardons terrorists."
Meet The Child-Abusing Arsonists That Inspired The Oregon Militia Standoff
D.H. also testified that his uncle Steven gave him matches and told him to help start the fires. Some time thereafter, D.H. says that he was separated from the rest of his family and found himself surrounded by burning flames. To escape harm he sheltered in a creek.
Additionally, the government claims that three men were camped nearby when the Hammonds' started these fires, and that Steven and Dwight knew about these campers when they decided to start the fires anyway.
At the time, however, the federal Bureau of Land Management had imposed a "burn ban" to protect firefighters who were busying trying to stop the wild fire. A second fire, such as the one set by Steven, could have potentially spread and endangered the firefighters.
A fourth incident is particularly striking, however. D.H., who reportedly has been diagnosed with depression, used a paper clip to carve the letter "J" into one side of his chest and the letter "S" onto the other side. In response, Steven allegedly "told him that he was not going to let [D.H.] deface the family by carving on himself." D.H. said that Steven then used sandpaper to remove the carved letters from D.H.'s chest — sanding each side for at least five minutes.
The Hammonds also admitted that the sanding incident occurred, although they would not disclose "who actually did the sanding." Dwight, claims that the sanding occurred after he called a family meeting to discuss D.H.'s self-harm and that "when [D.H.] was not able to come up with a punishment, that it was decided by the family that the initials would be sanded off."
These seem like rational people to me... this is the dude who got shot during all of this.
Yo don't put this kind of evil on Luther. Even that psychotic bastard would probably want to curb stomp half of Trump's idiot squad.
Why is the Law&Order president pardonning terrorists who shot on the police?