Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition |OT| Gone Gold

Shroki · Jul 9, 2018

spman2099 said:
As a former Abigail player in recovery, playing Cody reminds me of what honest play looks like... which is going to be his primary failure, as if he doesn't have a pipe in his hand then he doesn't have any shady bullshit, which is something that half of the cast has access to. Cody's robbery factor is limited to the pipe, which makes life hard when you are facing an army of Akumas, Cammys, and Guiles, which can rob you blind without ever getting hold of a single bar (with things only getting worse when they do).

Akuma, Cammy and Guile are three characters. I'd include Ibuki and maybe Menat. "Half the cast" doesn't have dishonest tools. More like the tippy top tier. And in an online environment, even that isn't as meaningful. Like, online Akumas from Diamond on down are often one-trick pony's.

Cody seems fine. I find him dull with or without pipe, but I've never actually liked Cody in Alpha or 4.

spman2099 · Jul 9, 2018

Shroki said:
Akuma, Cammy and Guile are three characters. I'd include Ibuki and maybe Menat. "Half the cast" doesn't have dishonest tools. More like the tippy top tier. And in an online environment, even that isn't as meaningful. Like, online Akumas from Diamond on down are often one-trick pony's.

Cody seems fine. I find him dull with or without pipe, but I've never actually liked Cody in Alpha or 4.

I think you can add Abigail, Urien, Rashid, R. Mika, Laura, and Balrog to that list. Many of those characters have giant weaknesses, but they still have toolsets that allow them to really fuck you up and steal a round. Mika and Laura can still put you in the blender. Balrog and Abigail, despite nerfs, still have the ability to drain your health bar aggressively with a single combo. Rashid and Urien still have filthy V-Trigger setups, while still having above average, versatile toolsets that allow them to compete without their filthier shit. Still not quite half of the roster, but I wasn't really being literal.

I really like Cody, personally. It helps that I am invested in the character, but he also has a lot of good tools that rely on solid, clean play. A dominant win with him feels genuinely great. I play with the knife too, which is still a good V-Trigger, just an honest one. Once again, I feel like this is going to hold him back. I don't know where he will come to sit in the tiers. I am pretty sure it won't be at the bottom, but I am positive it won't be near the top either.

rude · Jul 9, 2018

Define dishonesty. Cammy is very predictable and flowcharty like Necalli but the combination of great walkspeed/back and forward dash and well ranged buttons that are varying degrees of being + doesn't exactly scream dishonest in the way that season 2 TAP, not being able to predict where Ibuki is about to land, Menat's orb not being punishable, or Guile's short charge time do.

I don't think Akuma is that bad either.

The Mango Sentinel · Jul 9, 2018

rude said:
4. Your playstyle is fucking annoying.

Professor Beef said:
5. The skill gap is lightyears apart

LakeEarth said:
6. You play Abigail. See point #4.

C'mon guys, smh.

Professor Beef · Jul 9, 2018

The Mango Sentinel said:
C'mon guys, smh.

if i'm playing some rando online who isn't even in the same ballpark that i am, skill-wise, then yeah i'm gonna leave because of boredom

with friends it's different, but i got shit to do and i am not here to entertain someone i got matched up with

stn · Jul 9, 2018

If I know I'm going to miss on one week of the Laura crossover costume, is there a point to getting the other 3 parts?

Sou Da · Jul 9, 2018

elmalo said:
People who leave after winning 1 game are the fucking worst

spman2099 said:
So, I almost always give a second match. However, there are definitely extenuating circumstances.

1. For starters, if you are super laggy, and you are using it to your advantage, there is no way I am playing that second match (win or lose). I will usually give people their runback, even if the match is less than smooth, but not if you are using the lag to pull off some fraudulent shit. I had an Ibuki doing her command dash to switch sides (which usually is something you can't be too predictable with) on me and the lag was bad enough that it was essentially unreactable to. There is no way I am running it back to be beaten by lag tactics.

2. If the lag keeps spiking randomly through the match. Brutal lag spikes are ridiculous. Sorry, but no, I'm not playing another.

3. Sometimes I am wedging a few matches in between other obligations. Sorry, dude, but if my food is going to burn if I give you another match, or if I am going to be late for work, then I just can't do it. Call me selfish, but I don't think that the second match is a hard requirement, and I want to game in the time that I have available sometimes.

rude said:
4. Your playstyle is fucking annoying.

Professor Beef said:
5. The skill gap is lightyears apart

LakeEarth said:
6. You play Abigail. See point #4.

7. I can't beat you and only won because of trickery, time to take my LP and dip.

The Mango Sentinel · Jul 9, 2018

Professor Beef said:
if i'm playing some rando online who isn't even in the same ballpark that i am, skill-wise, then yeah i'm gonna leave because of boredom

with friends it's different, but i got shit to do and i am not here to entertain someone i got matched up with

Sure, I get that since I feel the same way, but you can't always tell if someone isn't on your level after only one match. I've steamrolled people only to have them beat my ass in the runback, and vice versa. Especially in this game where if you make two wrong guesses and you're probably fucking dead.

Sou Da said:
7. I can't beat you and only won because of trickery, time to take my LP and dip.

Shame on you too, lol.

Foxhound286 · Jul 9, 2018

stn said:
If I know I'm going to miss on one week of the Laura crossover costume, is there a point to getting the other 3 parts?

If you're definitely going to miss a week, then there is absolutely no point in doing the others. It'd just be a waste of fight money.

Strangelove_77 · Jul 9, 2018

How difficult do these costume fights get? I'd hate to get 3 pieces and have the last one be impossible for me to get. I'm not very good at the game.
For reference, I always cheat with Rashid to beat the colored soldiers.

lucebuce · Jul 10, 2018

Strangelove77 said:
For reference, I always cheat with Rashid to beat the colored soldiers.

I wouldn't take that as any indication of skill, the colored soldiers are some BS.

And you can use the same Rashidooo strategy to beat the costume fights too.

k0fighter · Jul 10, 2018

Foxhound286 said:
If you're definitely going to miss a week, then there is absolutely no point in doing the others. It'd just be a waste of fight money.

Not necessarily. Who knows what Capcom might decide to do in a year from now. The missions started repeating (still do), so perhaps Capcom will have a way to get random pieces of extra battle costumes from the year before or something like that. I could be completely wrong, but who knows?

spman2099 · Jul 10, 2018

The Mango Sentinel said:
Sure, I get that since I feel the same way, but you can't always tell if someone isn't on your level after only one match. I've steamrolled people only to have them beat my ass in the runback, and vice versa. Especially in this game where if you make two wrong guesses and you're probably fucking dead.

Personally, I think you should give people the chance to run it back, even if you slaughter them. That being said, if someone GETS slaughtered I hold no ill towards them if they dip after one.

abstract alien · Jul 10, 2018

Didn't even realize I hit level 50 with FANG. He is so much damn fun to play, and the rage quits have been worth it.

lucebuce · Jul 10, 2018

I'd like to formally resign from my position as the guy who posts that monthly reminder of Guile having a crouch walk.

spman2099 · Jul 10, 2018

lucebuce said:
I'd like to formally resign from my position as the guy who posts that monthly reminder of Guile having a crouch walk.

You can't shirk such an important duty. You are bound to your office. Your gravestone shall reference the crouch walk. This is your fate.

ColonialHawk · Jul 10, 2018

lucebuce said:
I'd like to formally resign from my position as the guy who posts that monthly reminder of Guile having a crouch walk.

Time for monthly reminders that Cammy has an air throw

LakeEarth · Jul 10, 2018

ColonialHawk said:
Time for monthly reminders that Cammy has an air throw

That move is quite rare to see in a real match, despite Cammy being a familiar sight online.

ColonialHawk · Jul 10, 2018

I only remembered because the cpu used it on me while playing through arcade mode

Turbo Tu-Tone · Jul 10, 2018

Zombegoast said:
Laura players really do like to complain about their character. " My Overhead can Anti Air, my character is shit"

LMAOOOO iDom had Punk squinting at the screen like J.R. Smith!!

DantesLink · Jul 10, 2018

Zombegoast said:
Laura players really do like to complain about their character. " My Overhead can Anti Air, my character is shit"

My fellow Laura players need to slow their roll, giving Cammy mains a run for their money on main-loathing.

Shang · Jul 10, 2018

Working on this mod totally makes me want Capcom Heroines ~Dolls Fighter Frenzy~. Do it, Capcom!

nded · Jul 10, 2018

Pretty cool, Shang. Are you planning on making mods to make the extra battle characters playable?

Turbo Tu-Tone · Jul 10, 2018

Shang said:
Working on this mod totally makes me want Capcom Heroines ~Dolls Fighter Frenzy~. Do it, Capcom!

An all girl fighter from Capcom with the same 3D modeler putting muscle tone on the rest of the female cast would seriously be incredible.

Shang · Jul 10, 2018

nded said:
Pretty cool, Shang. Are you planning on making mods to make the extra battle characters playable?

Yup, you can PM me for it, or just quote this post for the link. Again, credit goes to Killbox for the original mod. I just added the latest 3 bosses and the Shadow costume.

Hidden content

I haven't tested if it can be used online, but I've read that it'll cause desyncs unless the other person has the same mod installed. Obviously just don't use it online. Just have fun with it in training or local versus. The mod also doesn't have the Shadaloo Soldiers playable yet. They'll be part of the Dolls Fighter V mod I'm working on.

ThatMeanScene · Jul 10, 2018

So Ring of Power was updated with ELeague logos. When did that happen?

Zombegoast · Jul 10, 2018

Capcom is leaving money on the table with these dolls being stuck in Story Mode.

2shd · Jul 10, 2018

Zombegoast said:
Capcom is leaving money on the table with these dolls being stuck in Story Mode.

Nah, they're good. They don't need to flood the game with them.

APZonerunner · Jul 10, 2018

It's a balance concern as well, 12 new characters is a lot of even if they all share the same normals. It would've been cool if the dolls had ended up like Bowser Jr/The Koopalings in Smash - one character with multiple distinct skins, but ultimately all the same character - but they gave them all those unique specials and so that's not a doable thing now. It's perplexing to me the dolls aren't being used in Extra Battle though. Why always Shadaloo Soldiers?

I feel like Decapre would be a great freebie bonus character at some point if they wanted to do it, though. I guess they wouldn't do it out of the blue so the next chance would be the next full AE-style relaunch of the game now.

Kirblar · Jul 10, 2018

APZonerunner said:
It's a balance concern as well, 12 new characters is a lot of even if they all share the same normals. It would've been cool if the dolls had ended up like Bowser Jr/The Koopalings in Smash - one character with multiple distinct skins, but ultimately all the same character - but they gave them all those unique specials and so that's not a doable thing now. It's perplexing to me the dolls aren't being used in Extra Battle though. Why always Shadaloo Soldiers?

I feel like Decapre would be a great freebie bonus character at some point if they wanted to do it, though. I guess they wouldn't do it out of the blue so the next chance would be the next full AE-style relaunch of the game now.

I wouldn't be surprised if Evil Ryu/Decapre end up time-limited free characters a la ArcSys releases when they do SSFV or w/e in S5.

Deleted member 11517 · Jul 10, 2018

Hey, umm, what's up with Cammy's Cannon Spike outfit on PC?
It has no hair physics?

I got it today on PS4 and PC and in the PS4 version there are clearly hair physics... lol.

Anyone else noticing this?

nded · Jul 10, 2018

What do you mean? The pigtails are rigid?

MizerMan · Jul 10, 2018

APZonerunner said:
It's a balance concern as well, 12 new characters is a lot of even if they all share the same normals. It would've been cool if the dolls had ended up like Bowser Jr/The Koopalings in Smash - one character with multiple distinct skins, but ultimately all the same character - but they gave them all those unique specials and so that's not a doable thing now. It's perplexing to me the dolls aren't being used in Extra Battle though. Why always Shadaloo Soldiers?

I feel like Decapre would be a great freebie bonus character at some point if they wanted to do it, though. I guess they wouldn't do it out of the blue so the next chance would be the next full AE-style relaunch of the game now.

I wouldn't mind if they went the Triborg/TMNT route for the Dolls. But maybe like in S5 or something.

nded · Jul 10, 2018

The only doll I want is Fevrier with Winter Soldier's moves.

Jet Jaguar · Jul 10, 2018

They need to release Fei Long so we can get a godlike remix of his theme.

VariantX · Jul 10, 2018

Kirblar said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Evil Ryu/Decapre end up time-limited free characters a la ArcSys releases when they do SSFV or w/e in S5.

I do think those characters did have enough work put into them that I would consider them their own characters though. Especially E.Ryu. I would be dissappointed if they didn't put the same level of work into them that they did in SF4 so their personalities can come through.

rude · Jul 10, 2018

Character usage for June

I think Cody is going to stay in the top 10. People seem to like him a lot. It seems like Ken and Akuma mains may have switched to him for a bit?

lucebuce · Jul 11, 2018

Special 4K version

Nephilim · Jul 11, 2018

Jet Jaguar said:
They need to release Fei Long so we can get a godlike remix of his theme.

This.

Sussudio · Jul 11, 2018

lol, if you change his hair color to black in those pictures, he can pass for a decent looking Superman. Jawline game is strong.

Naarmight · Jul 11, 2018

Quite liked this on this, hope they both continue to have a good July

Pariah · Jul 11, 2018

What do you think of Falke, people? I'm tempted to say is a perfect character for trolling others. There are some crazy guys out there, using the sniper shot again, and again, and so on.

I have to look for Fang vs Falke replays on CFN.

Deleted member 11517 · Jul 11, 2018

Falke is awesome.

But what about my (Cammy's) hair physics people!?

nded said:
What do you mean? The pigtails are rigid?

Yes. They don't move at all!

They do on the PS4 version however...

jett · Jul 11, 2018

kageroo said:
Falke is awesome.

But what about my (Cammy's) hair physics people!?

Yes. They don't move at all!

They do on the PS4 version however...

They move in this PC video:

nded · Jul 11, 2018

They move on mine as well. Strange.

Deleted member 11517 · Jul 11, 2018

Ah, I see ok thanks guys. Yeah it's strange.

Deleted member 401 · Jul 11, 2018

lucebuce said:
Special 4K version

"angry convict noises*

The Turbanator · Jul 11, 2018

Baron von Loathsome said:
"angry convict noises*

BINGO

JusDoIt · Jul 11, 2018

Zombegoast said:
Laura players really do like to complain about their character. " My Overhead can Anti Air, my character is shit"

It took half of his v-trigger to set up that first overhead. VTI also buffs the frame advantage. That's end of the round Laura, not start of the round Laura. Start of the round Laura damn near got perfected by Cammy.

DoubleTake · Jul 11, 2018

I'm trying so hard to get back into this game but the netcode absolutely kills me.

Idk how y'all continue to do it.

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