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Which will you throw in the PC Storage first?

  • Pikachu

    Votes: 590 16.2%
  • Eevee

    Votes: 571 15.7%
  • Your hopes and dreams

    Votes: 2,083 57.4%
  • Jmon

    Votes: 387 10.7%

  • Total voters
    3,631

QisTopTier

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It's only for the partners not every Pokemon. Doing so would be a crazy intensive undertaking, although it would be cool if hold items were visible, although that would probably remove some of the strategy (or add to it!)
Nah it would kill a bit of the suprise side of things. When you see a pokemon the first time you have literally no idea what it can do and it's your job to think of the possible builds it could be and react acordingly

Seeing say choice specs on a mon would just lead to you slaming protect or whatever. So all this does is hurt different builds more than makes the game "more strategic"
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Nah it would kill a bit of the suprise side of things. When you see a pokemon the first time you have literally no idea what it can do and it's your job to think of the possible builds it could be and react acordingly

Seeing say choice specs on a mon would just lead to you slaming protect or whatever

Killing the surprise doesn't necessarily mean killing the strategy though. It would just alter it from having you guess a build based on the attacks used to guessing based on appearance. All it's doing is changing the information you have available. It's akin to strategy games with vs without fog of war, oe RPGs where you know an opponents remaining HP vs it being hidden. Having more information available/knowing your opponent has a piece of information can itself be a strategic element
 

QisTopTier

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Killing the surprise doesn't necessarily mean killing the strategy though. It would just alter it from having you guess a build based on the attacks used to guessing based on appearance. All it's doing is changing the information you have available. It's akin to strategy games with vs without fog of war, oe RPGs where you know an opponents remaining HP vs it being hidden. Having more information available/knowing your opponent has a piece of information can itself be a strategic element
If they have a specs item on they are only ever going to attack and they are locked to that attack

If they have a specific berry on then you know they are most likely going to do something in relation to said berry.

Pokemon is a very figured out game, the mask of suprise about what item they have is the main element of suprise mixed with the natures/moveset stuff.

But items tend to give away the mons gameplan
 
Oct 27, 2017
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If they have a specs item on they are only ever going to attack and they are locked to that attack

If they have a specific berry on then you know they are most likely going to do something in relation to said berry.

Pokemon is a very figured out game, the mask of suprise about what item they have is the main element of suprise mixed with the natures/moveset stuff.

But items tend to give away the mons gameplan

It's a "figured out" game in the same way that Chess is a "figured out" game. Having perfect information doesn't remove your ability to employ strategy.
 

ILikeFeet

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Oct 25, 2017
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I will only buy this game if it has a "hard" mode.
This isn't that game

Pokemon customization is something I'm really hoping transitions to Gen 8 more than anything. Would make watching VGC much more funner if you can bling your Pokemon out with clothes, lol.
Given the customization items so far are glorified stickers, it could be possible. Things like hats and glasses and whatnot would be more difficult though.
 

Lelouch0612

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Oct 25, 2017
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I know, but at least a mode where the trainers have the same Pokemon at the same levels as in the original games or the remakes.

Doing level comparison doesn't mean a lot when we don't know the experience curve yet.

Underleveled trainers doesnt mean that they are going to be easier, you could be underleveled too compared to the same point in the older games.
 

ILikeFeet

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Oct 25, 2017
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Slots have been gone for ages and are never coming back, so the lack of it in the classification shouldn't be surprising
 

ADM975

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Feb 22, 2018
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Wonder when we will get more footage or news? I totally forgot these games even existed for a little while.
 

Seafoam Gaming

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Nov 3, 2017
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Are they freaking serious? Even VC Pokemon had the slots and the ratings were fine with that game (12 for Pegi IIRC, which is fine) Getting porygon that way was dumb but knowing GF they won't even bother to make a replacement and will just have it be an empty lot like in ORAS, or at the very least make Porygon purchasable with Pokedollars. I kinda wish that they didn't just cut the slots out worldwide either due to a European thing. IMO, they should just leave it in and stick with a higher rating or only cut it out of the PAL release so not everyone has to suffer.

I actually would think it would be neat if the Game Corner Pokemon were obtainable via Pokemon Amie/Refresh minigames, if something like that is in this. Still would have Porygon fit the "obtainable without battling" requirement, but I'm kinda nervous they'll just cut down on content again
 

TI92

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Oct 25, 2017
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I pre-ordered the eeevee version, can't wait. Do we know if you can still interact with them if you evolve them to like Jolteon for example?
 

Seafoam Gaming

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Nov 3, 2017
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I'd care less about Porygon and more about the entire chapter of the game that takes place in the Game Corner's basement

It's an important place in RBY.

No doubt that building's still gonna be there for the story. It's just whether or not it'll be a game corner or have a gambling focus remains to be seen, or maybe it will still be the game corner but you can't actually play. Watch as they do what they did with PAL Platinum where you actually can see the machines but only can pick up coins or buy them instead of use them to get more...

I pre-ordered the eeevee version, can't wait. Do we know if you can still interact with them if you evolve them to like Jolteon for example?
The starters cannot evolve.
 

Phonzo

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Oct 26, 2017
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I havent been following this game to closely, but what are the ways this game can benefit my Pokemon Go experience? I only know that you can transfer from Go to Lets Go, but that doesnt help my Go experience.
 

Rotobit

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Oct 27, 2017
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Are they freaking serious? Even VC Pokemon had the slots and the ratings were fine with that game (12 for Pegi IIRC, which is fine)

Pegi 12 wouldn't really be fine considering the Let's Go games are undeniably targeting a younger audience, the VC re-releases were primarily nostalgia grabs so it made sense not to bother cutting anything. Nintendo and Game Freak aren't going to risk parents not buying Let's Go for any reason.

I'm guessing they'll just replace it with some minigame involving the Joy-Con motion control that doesn't involve betting. Would make sense to have something gimmicky rather than slots anyway.
 

Berordn

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What??? No way... you gotta be joking... NO HELD ITEMS?
We haven't seen anything that indicates them being available on the stats page, and the options for giving a Pokemon an item so far are conspicuously missing.

Thanks to using Go style catching several items are going to have different uses, so they might've just scrapped them for Let's Go.
 

Deleted member 3010

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So...did this game hyped you to start playing Go! again?

My level 19 from last year is now 22...got quite a lot of EXP too with all the new Pokemon arrivals! Also make for a nice way to do something related to video games with my GF as she's deep in this too and loves going out for walks. While I don't give a shit about taking walks, this is an awesome incentive.

Just got that Snorlax from an egg, and he's a godsend for me to take/stay in gyms!

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Mediking

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We haven't seen anything that indicates them being available on the stats page, and the options for giving a Pokemon an item so far are conspicuously missing.

Thanks to using Go style catching several items are going to have different uses, so they might've just scrapped them for Let's Go.

Wow. Thats actually horrible. Quick Claw is like my fav item of all time. No Quick Claw??? Oh man.
 

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I saw this 4chan rumor (through YouTuber) of the games being gender lock with Male locked to Let's Go Pikachu and female to Let's Go Eevee.


I know this rumor is utter bullshit but a small part of me thinks this is something Game Freak would do and I can't get it out my mind. Lol..
 

Sebastopa

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Apr 27, 2018
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No items or abilities would seem to me that they REALLY are trying to appeal to genwunners. I like changes to REs but that would certainly reduce my interest on the game, i hope that's not the case and if true then at least give us something else to have some depth, gen 1 is shallow as fuck.
 

Black_Red

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Oct 27, 2017
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No items/abilities has been rumored since day 1, but unconfirmed and pleople constantly stating that this games "has the same combat system" usually ignore how big that is.
 

Titik

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah no abilities would really kill my excitement for the game and I'm a big cheer leader for these versions. I actually already have these preordered.

Abilities to me were what gave the combat system tons of depth and something I was grateful the later gens introduced.
 
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Serebii

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Oct 24, 2017
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Remember, we haven't seen the stats page. We've seen the Pokémon level up page.

E3 demo players couldn't navigate menus either.

People are jumping to conclusions
 

Theorymon

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Oct 25, 2017
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FYI what some people may be refering to is this when it comes to items and abilities being gone:

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I wouldn't use this screen as evidence for that, since this screen only came up because Pikachu was learning Double Kick, but needed to forget a move. This isn't the normal stat screen though. Funnily enough, this did confirm one thing though: Natures are in, since the color for Attack and Defense cordinate with nature (It's a Lonely nature, so +Atk, -Defense)

Now to be fair, I'm not too confidant about items coming back since the option to put on an item did not show up in the demo when selecting a Pokemon. Abilities are still a big question mark at all. Still, Natures being in does raise some red flags for me, makes me wonder if we're just looking at some strange menu stuff.

Regardless though, I'll still try the game competitively. Lack of abilities and items would be a huge change, but it might be a nice contrast to the likely increasing complexity gen 8 will bring to the battle system.
 

TheFireman

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I really want to hear more about what this game sends to Go. I love Pokemon Go, but sending in my Pokemon Go Pokemon to most likely steamroll a single player campaign doesn't really have any appeal to me.
 

Theorymon

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Oh I forgot to mention this, but it doesn't really fit with the rest of my post: Back in gen 6, we did have a special online tournament called Kanto Classic, which only allowed Kanto Pokemon and no items. Abilities were still a big deal (and in fact, where a major reason behind Clefable and Dragonite's usage, and it massively benefited Gyarados too). That being said, It was pretty dramatically different than any other Pokemon metagame, INCLUDING RBY.

Throw Alolan formes and the new Pokemon in the mix, and we're gonna be looking at a pretty different competitive environment to past gens at least. I can understand why a lot of people would be sad though, since it does reduce complexity by quite a bit. Kanto Classic was at least a fun format, so I like it being back in a way.
 

Serebii

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There's one thing that, if in the game (and if Alolan Forms are in it, I don't see why these won't), all but guarantees hold items: Mega Evolution
 
Oct 26, 2017
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FYI what some people may be refering to is this when it comes to items and abilities being gone:

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I wouldn't use this screen as evidence for that, since this screen only came up because Pikachu was learning Double Kick, but needed to forget a move. This isn't the normal stat screen though. Funnily enough, this did confirm one thing though: Natures are in, since the color for Attack and Defense cordinate with nature (It's a Lonely nature, so +Atk, -Defense)

Now to be fair, I'm not too confidant about items coming back since the option to put on an item did not show up in the demo when selecting a Pokemon. Abilities are still a big question mark at all. Still, Natures being in does raise some red flags for me, makes me wonder if we're just looking at some strange menu stuff.

Regardless though, I'll still try the game competitively. Lack of abilities and items would be a huge change, but it might be a nice contrast to the likely increasing complexity gen 8 will bring to the battle system.

One thing that is pretty strong evidence against held items being a thing is that during some of the segments they showed the party menu and the per Pokemon options and there was nothing related to item management to be seen. Now they could have changed the way items are managed of course, but still.
 

B-Dubs

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One thing that is pretty strong evidence against held items being a thing is that during some of the segments they showed the party menu and the per Pokemon options and there was nothing related to item management to be seen. Now they could have changed the way items are managed of course, but still.
Remember that we did only see a demo and one very early on in the game. Given this is supposed to be a GO player's first introduction to mainline Pokemon, hold items might just wind up unlocking and getting explained after the point we've seen.

Or they could well have just not bothered putting them into the demo.

Oh I forgot to mention this, but it doesn't really fit with the rest of my post: Back in gen 6, we did have a special online tournament called Kanto Classic, which only allowed Kanto Pokemon and no items. Abilities were still a big deal (and in fact, where a major reason behind Clefable and Dragonite's usage, and it massively benefited Gyarados too). That being said, It was pretty dramatically different than any other Pokemon metagame, INCLUDING RBY.

Throw Alolan formes and the new Pokemon in the mix, and we're gonna be looking at a pretty different competitive environment to past gens at least. I can understand why a lot of people would be sad though, since it does reduce complexity by quite a bit. Kanto Classic was at least a fun format, so I like it being back in a way.
A Dragonite without access multiscale or extreme speed likely wouldn't dominate as much, so it'd make for an interesting meta.
 

GiantBreadbug

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Willingness to include new with old

If anything Alolan forms just seem like an obvious inclusion for GF in this game because they're all Gen 1 Pokemon and therefore . It doesn't necessarily seem to me to indicate that it comes from a willingness to include newer elements.

Still totally unsure about the item thing, but it's strange they haven't released more information about these types of things for the dedicated fans they're allegedly trying to bring in with this title.