As I posted that I forgot about jack Nicholson. Hmm. I'll allow it...
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Joaquin Phoenix officially cast as Joker in new Origin movie
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As I posted that I forgot about jack Nicholson. Hmm. I'll allow it...
Yeah, when it said Origin I assumed they meant the Origin story of the DCEU Joker, but after looking at some of the other replies I guess
it's a separate standalone origin story under a different branding/universe?
I mean, I love Ledger as much as the next person but Phoenix is on a whole 'nother stratosphere of talent. IFFFFF the writing is good..... Could be magic.
Who the fuck needs an origin story of the Joker ? Dafuq ? We already had one with the first Batman. That´s totally enough. Heck, even in TDK he played around with his origin because we never knew if he told the truth. And that´s why he was so great. Are there only morons at WB left or what? Jesus Christ man. They are sitting on billion dollar IP´s and don´t know what to do with them.
I've mentioned this before in other threads, but I don't think this will be a real "origin" movie for the Joker. I hope they do some weird story telling where things don't line up and you may only notice it at the very end where we find out that Joker has been the narrator the whole time talking to some doctor in Arkham (I'd even stay away from Harley all together). That way we don't know what's really true and it's just a fun story which doesn't cement any real origin for him.
The Killing Joke literally has the Joker suggest outright that the story he told about his origin was bullshit, and he makes shit up as he goes along.
Then it wouldn't be an origin film, much like TKJ isn't an origin story.
Personally I think you lack fantasy. Anyhow, I don't care much.
WB already wasted the acting talents of an acclaimed actor on a poorly written, poorly conceived Joker in Suicide Squad, i hope they don't repeat the same mistake with Joaquin Phoenix . . . . also for f*ck sake, why the hell does the Joker need an origin story (or stories)? He works best as a foil.
I swear, WB gives the impression that it greenlights movies not based on some creative plan but rather based on whoever analytics data deems as their most popular DC characters regardless if its appropriate for the character or not. At least for me, that explains why they trying so hard to make someone with a histrionic disorder like Harley into some kind of star/heroine/rolemodel? F*ck sake, use Batgirl!
I swear, WB gives the impression that it greenlights movies not based on some creative plan but rather based on whoever analytics data deems as their most popular DC characters regardless if its appropriate for the character or not. At least for me, that explains why they trying so hard to make someone with a histrionic disorder like Harley into some kind of star/heroine/rolemodel? F*ck sake, use Batgirl!
Great actor, great character.
But not fit for a solo movie. Joker should always be used sparingly. And he should never have a name or a 100% confirmed origin.
That's why if they didn't want to use Batman, having him in Suicide Squad was such a great idea that they wasted spectacularly. Oh well.
Zero interest in this right now but hopefully my concerns will be proven wrong. And I have no doubts that he'll deliver a good performance of course.
But not fit for a solo movie. Joker should always be used sparingly. And he should never have a name or a 100% confirmed origin.
That's why if they didn't want to use Batman, having him in Suicide Squad was such a great idea that they wasted spectacularly. Oh well.
Zero interest in this right now but hopefully my concerns will be proven wrong. And I have no doubts that he'll deliver a good performance of course.
For some reason I feel like this movie could be half way through production and it still won't come out.
Well this will be interesting, I'm not sure they've ever explained Joker's origins (Gotham aside).
Only way I see multiple jokers working is the different actors showing of his split/ different personalities (maybe have the actors show up in a movie where he is seen as having just different facets of beeing crazy). Like his self image changes etc
Sounds fine.
There's no reason there can't be multiple takes on a character or one off stories. DC animation does it all the time. The MCU isn't the de facto way to tell superhero stories.
There's no reason there can't be multiple takes on a character or one off stories. DC animation does it all the time. The MCU isn't the de facto way to tell superhero stories.
yeah its weird. You'll also often get mini origin stories baked into the Hero origin movie - eg most Batman movies so far
Obviously they therefore need to get out of the motion picture business forever then.
Unpopular opinion but I find Ledger's incredibly bland at this point(though it was perfect for what it was)
There's loads of room to do something more imo.
I don't know why or how this is happening, but Phoenix doesn't pick bad scripts so let's have some faith in him.
What? Why does someone need powers for people to be interested in a character's origin? Batman doesn't have powers, neither do quite a few of the villains in the Batman universe.
