BBC doc investigating Trump's parties in the 80's/90's to sleep with underage models

Ponn · Jul 10, 2018

Jmanunknown said:
Oh no one is excusing trumps bs I am just pointing out how crazy the situation was and who was connected to Epstein. They called his plane the Lolita express and the reason we know most of the names who traveled in his circle is because Gawker released his travel manifest. Trump knew Epstein for a long time he said this about Epstein in a magazine

Sorry I didn't mean to imply you were excusing him. I meant that's what his supporters were doing at the time. And yea the situation is fucked because there is to many people with power and influence covering the shit up and protecting that piece of shit. Great guy my ass, he would say that. The best people.

Squiggely · Jul 10, 2018

lmcfigs said:
I don't recall the doc saying anything like that about Trump specifically. I think the youngest they mentioned was a 17 year old - which is legal I think in New York.

It is mentioned more than once in the doc that there were girls that young.

Pet · Jul 10, 2018

Khanimus said:
"I saw on the internet that you can fake videos like that!"

linkboy said:
Even if there was video evidence of it happening, with him looking at the camera with his shit-eating grin and combover, his base would still support it.

These people are brainwashed to the max. They'd start with the doctored footage excuse.

LOL you think his supporters think it's wrong?

Hell no. There's going to be lots of "bio truths" and "they wanted it" and "they knew what they were doing" and "they don't even look underage" and ngshgsdhgksdhg grossssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

FaceHugger · Jul 10, 2018

Stupid failing BBC should stick to soccer coverage no one likes the BBC they're all poopy heads

tshirtblue · Jul 10, 2018

Get Avenatti on this

Chekhonte · Jul 10, 2018

Are you telling me that our president, the pedophile's best friend is a pedo himself? I'm blown the fuck away.

Again we're turning molested children around to be all about him.

Skelepuzzle · Jul 10, 2018

Yeah, no shit.

rjinaz · Jul 10, 2018

Pet said:
LOL you think his supporters think it's wrong?

Hell no. There's going to be lots of "bio truths" and "they wanted it" and "they knew what they were doing" and "they don't even look underage" and ngshgsdhgksdhg grossssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

Don't forget "it was like 30 years ago, and he was born again"

Skelepuzzle · Jul 10, 2018

rjinaz said:
Don't forget "it was like 30 years ago, and he was born again"

"200 years ago it was normal! They did it all the time and he's old fashioned like us."

linkboy · Jul 10, 2018

Pet said:
LOL you think his supporters think it's wrong?

Hell no. There's going to be lots of "bio truths" and "they wanted it" and "they knew what they were doing" and "they don't even look underage" and ngshgsdhgksdhg grossssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

Where did I say they'd think it was wrong?

These people are so brainwashed and conditioned to believe anything that orange piece of shit will say that they'll hand wave anything he does.

Pet · Jul 10, 2018

linkboy said:
Where did I say they'd think it was wrong?

These people are so brainwashed and conditioned to believe anything that orange piece of shit will say that they'll hand wave anything he does.

Naw, I mean they wouldn't even claim it was doctored. They'd just say it was okay.

Bonefish · Jul 10, 2018

Won't go anywhere. Just like his and Clintons ties to Epstein. Won't go anywhere because both sides are culpable. the whole system is dirty and they will all protect each other from this.

Van Bur3n · Jul 10, 2018

BobLablow said:
"BBC? I don't even like blacks! FAKE NEWS!"

He'd probably get away with saying that, too.

rude · Jul 10, 2018

Launch an investigation into Clinton's activities with Epstein too.

TheHunter · Jul 10, 2018

God_Of_Phwoar said:
The majority of the UK hates him. A smaller number think he's a bit of a nob. A small number LOVE him. I call these people racists.

I call them Leave voters.

Lunar Wolf · Jul 10, 2018

Bonefish said:
Won't go anywhere. Just like his and Clintons ties to Epstein. Won't go anywhere because both sides are culpable. the whole system is dirty and they will all protect each other from this.

Yep.

Deleted member 13628 · Jul 10, 2018

God_Of_Phwoar said:
Is there any level on which Donald Trump is not completely and totally classless, vulgar and vile. Let's cast aside the corruption, the lying, the treason, the racism, the homophobia, the vengeful hatred of Hilary Clinton & Obama, the intentional attempts to disrupt the current world order and his obvious admiration of dictators and tyrants....

A little lower down the chart of "things that matter", he has mocked the disabled at rallies, "jokes" about locking up his political opponents & stalks Hilary around the stage at the debates trying to intimidate her..Then the allegations of paedophilia and sexual assault (starting to feel there's no smoke without fire)

Then down to the seemingly insignificant stuff, he can't take ANY criticism without going off on one, there are the reports that he CONSTANTLY cheats at golf, he eats steak well done with ketchup, has bullshit beliefs about diet and exercise, makes inappropriate jokes about banging his own daughter... Insists on having one more scoop of ice cream than his dinner guests (!?!?!?!?)

Every...single.... level.... of this man, from the most important stuff, right down to the seemingly petty details....is.....VILE. How can ANYBODY admire this awful, shitty human being?

People who are of a similarly low mental level admire him. Unfortunately that is a huge chunk of America.

kittens · Jul 10, 2018

Does "pest" have a different meaning in the UK or is the BBC just being coy with Trump's repeated accusations and admissions of rape?

SamAlbro · Jul 10, 2018

kittens said:
Does "pest" have a different meaning in the UK or is the BBC just being coy with Trump's repeated accusations and admissions of rape?

Could be similar to how we use a word that means "to bother" to refer to sexual assault.

Masterz1337 · Jul 10, 2018

androvsky said:
She was 13 when it allegedly happened, back in 1994. Guess who else was 13 in 1994?

I'm just going to think with the worst possible answer, and that would be Ivanka. Being Trump it's probably accurate.

Deleted member 18568 · Jul 10, 2018

Skelepuzzle said:
Yeah, no shit.

that yellow jacket is also a crime

Squiggely · Jul 10, 2018

SamAlbro said:
Could be similar to how we use a word that means "to bother" to refer to sexual assault.

That's exactly it. To 'pester'.

DrForester · Jul 10, 2018

I mean, the guy happily admitted to barging in on naked teenagers at his beauty pageants.

Jmanunknown · Jul 10, 2018

Ponn said:
Sorry I didn't mean to imply you were excusing him. I meant that's what his supporters were doing at the time. And yea the situation is fucked because there is to many people with power and influence covering the shit up and protecting that piece of shit. Great guy my ass, he would say that. The best people.

Oh its no problem I was just making sure you knew I wasn't defending him.

DrForester said:
I mean, the guy happily admitted to barging in on naked teenagers at his beauty pageants.

Yea that is crazy dude freely admitted to watching girls as young as 15 years old getting dressed. Its crazy that people just brushed it aside especially considering guy is the president.

Rayne · Jul 10, 2018

Skelepuzzle said:
Yeah, no shit.

I love how the dude in the yellow shirt looks exactly how I feel when I see this pic. Like wtf is going on.

Stinkles · Jul 10, 2018

Mugsy said:
He is a punchline for mocking their own Prime Minister.

I actually think the speaker is out of line here. Sure it was a joke - but Boris is quite real, he really did say that and Theresa May is the second worst woman prime minister in British history, held back from first position only by the treacle slow progress of the Brexit shitshow she's "navigating." And Britain is only mildly more dignified in terms of leadership and planning right now, than the US.

Speaker should just have let May answer what in the current climate is an almost reasonable curiosity.

Psamtik · Jul 11, 2018

MrRob said:
Scotland is far from the first Trump haters he's been loathed in NYC for since the 80s

New Jersey, too. The states that know him best have been sick of his shit for decades, which is why it was so surreal to see it play with a whole new set of rubes.

I don't think anyone can really be surprised by these allegations. We already know that he wants to fuck his daughter; he's probably been looking for proxies all this time. Odds are good that thinking of Ivanka is the only way he can get off.

Rover · Jul 11, 2018

Rayne said:
I love how the dude in the yellow shirt looks exactly how I feel when I see this pic. Like wtf is going on.

And that's a man who was probably in the KKK and had seen some shit

Nacho · Jul 11, 2018

Every time we hear about this shit, I'm not surprised that he's done it, I'm surprised that this fuck head is actually president. Like come the fuck on. He's not even discrete. It's sickening that this country accepts this shit.

Aaron · Jul 11, 2018

Shadybiz said:
Well...I've got bad news. Even if that were the case, it wouldn't put much of a dent in the support his base has for him...even if there was indisputable video evidence.

We'd find out very quickly how large his "base" actually is.

A sizable chunk of Republicans just support him because he's a Republican. They'd be no better or worse off if Pence were to take over, and they're exactly the kind of people who will pretend they hated Trump all along once he's out of power. But I'd estimate the worst-case scenario for Trump would still result in him maintaining around a 25% approval rating (which would still be catastrophically low by US standards).

Sol C. Johnson · Jul 11, 2018

A "sex pest"

I love Britain.

astroturfing · Jul 11, 2018

kind of related..

https://amp.businessinsider.com/george-nader-elliot-broidy-photo-with-trump-2018-5

why is Trump palling around with pedos and friends of pedos?

Medalion · Jul 11, 2018

Skelepuzzle said:
Yeah, no shit.

And that's just Ivanka

-PXG- · Jul 11, 2018

Call him what he is. A sexual predator.

Bitsmurch · Jul 11, 2018

Out of interest what's Era's opinion on Hugh Hefner?

nasirum · Jul 11, 2018

"A sex pest?"

Call him a fucking sexual predator.

Bitsmurch · Jul 11, 2018

nasirum said:
"A sex pest?"

Call him a fucking sexual predator.

There's no evidence that he has had sex with underage girls and no one is accusing him as such.

I lived through the 80s and 90s and quite frankly I find this desperation to judge people by their actions back then to today's standards pretty disturbing. Yes men going to parties full of young scantily clad girls is less socially acceptable today but it was more "normal," back then. Sexual advances weren't done through an app people were touchy feely and this came from both sexes in parties, bars and clubs.

xbhaskarx · Jul 11, 2018

Bitsmurch said:
There's no evidence that he has had sex with underage girls and no one is accusing him as such.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

nasirum · Jul 11, 2018

Bitsmurch said:
There's no evidence that he has had sex with underage girls and no one is accusing him as such.

I lived through the 80s and 90s and quite frankly I find this desperation to judge people by their actions back then to today's standards pretty disturbing. Yes men going to parties full of young scantily clad girls is less socially acceptable today but it was more "normal," back then. Sexual advances weren't done through an app people were touchy feely and this came from both sexes in parties, bars and clubs.

He is POTUS.

Why do we stop digging up the past for this man, but not for the presidents before him?

Lurkyseas · Jul 11, 2018

Socrates said:
It should go without saying. A few of you in America may hate him, but he did win the fucking election. So there are plenty of Americans who like him. He is universally disliked outside of America. To be generous, less than 5%of non Americans have a positive opinion of him. (he would be happy with this).

No; He cheated to win thanks to Russia & Putin. He didn't even win the popular vote.

Plus Trump's supporters are in the minority, not in the majority.

nasirum said:
He is POTUS.

You mean, illegitimate.

SaviourMK2 · Jul 11, 2018

You mean a man who supported Roy Moore might be a pedophile? Mild shock

dee_activate · Jul 11, 2018

Bitsmurch said:
There's no evidence that he has had sex with underage girls and no one is accusing him as such.

I lived through the 80s and 90s and quite frankly I find this desperation to judge people by their actions back then to today's standards pretty disturbing. Yes men going to parties full of young scantily clad girls is less socially acceptable today but it was more "normal," back then. Sexual advances weren't done through an app people were touchy feely and this came from both sexes in parties, bars and clubs.

You seem to miss that these " young scantily clad girls" did not give consent for him to be " touchy feely". And what they wear is no excuse for a grown man to take advantage of young teenage girls. These girls are now women and obviously what has been done has harmed them later. So they should just accept the pain because "it was normal back then". Is this your argument for attacks on homosexuals over 20/30 years ago or for America's treatment of slaves in the past. We shouldn't need to confront and apologise for our past actions to others because it use to be NORMAL

let me just make it clear to you, no matter what decade it is, it is never "normal" for the girl when a stranger sticks his hand up her skirt and she does not want it. No that's not "normal" that is fucking scary and traumatising for her.

WTF

Bitsmurch · Jul 11, 2018

derdriu said:
You seem to miss that these " young scantily clad girls" did not give consent for him to be " touchy feely". And what they wear is no excuse for a grown man to take advantage of young teenage girls. These girls are now women and obviously what has been done has harmed them later. So they should just accept the pain because "it was normal back then". Is this your argument for attacks on homosexuals over 20/30 years ago or for America's treatment of slaves in the past. We shouldn't need to confront and apologise for our past actions to others because it use to be NORMAL

let me just make it clear to you, no matter what decade it is, it is never "normal" for the girl when a stranger sticks his hand up her skirt and she does not want it. No that's not "normal" that is fucking scary and traumatising for her.

WTF

By today's standards you are correct.

But, I'm guessing you weren't alive back then, it was a different time, there was no swipe left or right for consent. I remember being in bars and random girls doing stuff like shoving their hands in my pockets or gyrating into me to indicate their interest, and the blokes did similar stuff.

Watch a few films from the 80's and 90's and you can see what was considered the norm. I was watching Trading Places the other day and some girls on that just randomly get their chests out at a party. Quite jarring by todays norms but back then it wasn't totally surprising.

xbhaskarx said:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

You believe in guilty until proven innocent clearly,

Deleted member 29806 · Jul 11, 2018

BobLablow said:
"BBC? I don't even like blacks! FAKE NEWS!"

sprsk · Jul 11, 2018

Bitsmurch said:
By today's standards you are correct.

But, I'm guessing you weren't alive back then, it was a different time, there was no swipe left or right for consent. I remember being in bars and random girls doing stuff like shoving their hands in my pockets or gyrating into me to indicate their interest, and the blokes did similar stuff.

Watch a few films from the 80's and 90's and you can see what was considered the norm. I was watching Trading Places the other day and some girls on that just randomly get their chests out at a party. Quite jarring by todays norms but back then it wasn't totally surprising.

Bruh you know this is bullshit right.

BigDes · Jul 11, 2018

Kukulcan said:

Look at this big fibber

HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY IS A BIG FIBBER

Arkestry · Jul 11, 2018

Bitsmurch said:
By today's standards you are correct.

But, I'm guessing you weren't alive back then, it was a different time, there was no swipe left or right for consent. I remember being in bars and random girls doing stuff like shoving their hands in my pockets or gyrating into me to indicate their interest, and the blokes did similar stuff.

Watch a few films from the 80's and 90's and you can see what was considered the norm. I was watching Trading Places the other day and some girls on that just randomly get their chests out at a party. Quite jarring by todays norms but back then it wasn't totally surprising.

You believe in guilty until proven innocent clearly,

We're not talking about dubious consent here. We're talking about him forcing himself on women, and having copious amounts of sex at parties were the older girls are 19. What are you even on about, the accusations here are that Trump has a history of treating women, and young girls, like shit, not that he went out to a bar and was a bit of a chancer.

Not to mention none of his accusers state that the incidents happened in bars or at parties. It's all in mundane, business or pedestrian context. It's one thing to gyrate against someone on the dancefloor, and totally another to fucking kiss a secretary who works in your building the first time you meet her without so much as a how-do-you-do.

NullPointerException · Jul 11, 2018

Italians right now must be like "The US President sure sounds and acts a lot like one of our own ex-presidents"

Jmanunknown · Jul 11, 2018

Bitsmurch said:
There's no evidence that he has had sex with underage girls and no one is accusing him as such.

I lived through the 80s and 90s and quite frankly I find this desperation to judge people by their actions back then to today's standards pretty disturbing. Yes men going to parties full of young scantily clad girls is less socially acceptable today but it was more "normal," back then. Sexual advances weren't done through an app people were touchy feely and this came from both sexes in parties, bars and clubs.

You sound like you might have a few skeletons in your closet the way you are talking. As for Trump their is a long documented history of his terrible behavior.

nasirum · Jul 11, 2018

Lurkyseas said:
No; He cheated to win thanks to Russia & Putin. He didn't even win the popular vote.

Plus Trump's supporters are in the minority, not in the majority.

You mean, illegitimate.

He did NOT win the popular vote, you are correct.

It's good to remind everyone every once in a while (completely serious):

THIS POTUS DID NOT WIN THE POPULAR VOTE.

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