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dee_activate

Member
Oct 25, 2017
186
world
By today's standards you are correct.

But, I'm guessing you weren't alive back then, it was a different time, there was no swipe left or right for consent. I remember being in bars and random girls doing stuff like shoving their hands in my pockets or gyrating into me to indicate their interest, and the blokes did similar stuff.

Watch a few films from the 80's and 90's and you can see what was considered the norm. I was watching Trading Places the other day and some girls on that just randomly get their chests out at a party. Quite jarring by todays norms but back then it wasn't totally surprising.



You believe in guilty until proven innocent clearly,

guess again, i was a teenager in the 90's and started college. and no i did not consider it normal. and referring to movies in the 80's that were written by and made really for men, does not portrait all women and what all women want or do.

You believe that 20 women with very similar stories, his past actions and sayings (recorded), his use of threats and payoffs, makes him completely innocent without question.

But for the record i never said he was guilty, try reading my reply again. No i was stunned that you believe that whatever harm someone has experienced by another, they should never expect and apology or some kind of closure, because "them was the times". riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight


edit: rereading i kinda did say he was guilty, but you are right I dont have proof. just magazine and news accounts of past actions
 
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Khanimus

Khanimus

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
40,232
Greater Vancouver
Out of interest what's Era's opinion on Hugh Hefner?
Fuck him and good riddance?
By today's standards you are correct.

But, I'm guessing you weren't alive back then, it was a different time, there was no swipe left or right for consent. I remember being in bars and random girls doing stuff like shoving their hands in my pockets or gyrating into me to indicate their interest, and the blokes did similar stuff.

Watch a few films from the 80's and 90's and you can see what was considered the norm. I was watching Trading Places the other day and some girls on that just randomly get their chests out at a party. Quite jarring by todays norms but back then it wasn't totally surprising.



You believe in guilty until proven innocent clearly,
Who fucking cares what was in some shitty fucking movie 30 years ago? Hollywood was (and to be real, still is) run by fucking creeps and men who took advantage of their positions. And no, they didn't get away with it because it was "normal," they got away with it because they could. And other men got away with it because society told them it was okay.

So fuck this defense of these creepy shitbags just because "that's how it was." Those fuckers should have been dragged through the dirt then, and they deserve even worse now after getting away with this shit for decades.

Your "oh you kids don't know what dating was like back then because of your apps!" angle doesn't mean shit.
 

PaddingtonDidntDoIt

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
May 8, 2018
698
By today's standards you are correct.

But, I'm guessing you weren't alive back then, it was a different time, there was no swipe left or right for consent. I remember being in bars and random girls doing stuff like shoving their hands in my pockets or gyrating into me to indicate their interest, and the blokes did similar stuff.

Watch a few films from the 80's and 90's and you can see what was considered the norm. I was watching Trading Places the other day and some girls on that just randomly get their chests out at a party. Quite jarring by todays norms but back then it wasn't totally surprising.



You believe in guilty until proven innocent clearly,
Were these parties in Cambodia?
 

Bitsmurch

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
325
guess again, i was a teenager in the 90's and started college. and no i did not consider it normal. and referring to movies in the 80's that were written by and made really for men, does not portrait all women and what all women want or do.

You believe that 20 women with very similar stories, his past actions and sayings (recorded), his use of threats and payoffs, makes him completely innocent without question.

But for the record i never said he was guilty, try reading my reply again. No i was stunned that you believe that whatever harm someone has experienced by another, they should never expect and apology or some kind of closure, because "them was the times". riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight


edit: rereading i kinda did say he was guilty, but you are right I dont have proof. just magazine and news accounts of past actions

If the blokes done something illegal and gets prosecuted so be it.

They'll never be another Playboy mansion, we've moved on but that shit was considered normal back then. Times change.
 

bricewgilbert

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
868
WA, USA
He did NOT win the popular vote, you are correct.

It's good to remind everyone every once in a while (completely serious):

THIS POTUS DID NOT WIN THE POPULAR VOTE.

Come on people. You realize how lame this sounds right? Welcome to the electoral college.

Anyways he is most certainly a pedophile rapist along with all the other people who ventured onto Epstein's plane. There will be no iustice either.
 
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Khanimus

Khanimus

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
40,232
Greater Vancouver
If the blokes done something illegal and gets prosecuted so be it.

They'll never be another Playboy mansion, we've moved on but that shit was considered normal back then. Times change.
Pssst

A lot of shit was legal or normal in the past. Doesn't mean you have to defend it or the people who engaged with it. They were sick fuckers then and they're sick fuckers now.
 
Oct 27, 2017
15,067
"Is the President a Sex Pest"

I'd go with sexual predator and rapist, but I mean it's a pretty obvious yes. Unfortunately he has always had enough money to silence anyone involved.
 

LogicAirForce

Member
Oct 25, 2017
937
By today's standards you are correct.

But, I'm guessing you weren't alive back then, it was a different time, there was no swipe left or right for consent. I remember being in bars and random girls doing stuff like shoving their hands in my pockets or gyrating into me to indicate their interest, and the blokes did similar stuff.

Watch a few films from the 80's and 90's and you can see what was considered the norm. I was watching Trading Places the other day and some girls on that just randomly get their chests out at a party. Quite jarring by todays norms but back then it wasn't totally surprising.



You believe in guilty until proven innocent clearly,
Buddy you're missing the fact that these are underage girls. I don't care if a 13 year old begs you to fuck her, if you are an adult and she isn't then you need to back off. But I have a feeling you already know this and are still ok with defending such behavior.
 

dee_activate

Member
Oct 25, 2017
186
world
If the blokes done something illegal and gets prosecuted so be it.

They'll never be another Playboy mansion, we've moved on but that shit was considered normal back then. Times change.

This was never normal to the victims, ever. sexual assault and harassment should never be considered normal at any time. I'm done talking to you.
 
Oct 29, 2017
4,063
I find that highly surprising. I would have thought his horrible, racist views would align quite nicely with those of the pro-Brexit/Little Englander crowd (37.5% of the voting population), while a further 27.8% would be indifferent to him, i.e. the percentage of the voting population that didn't even bother to turn out for something as monumentally important as Brexit.

The Eurosceptic position, underlined by healthy dollops of casual and not so casual racism, has been pushed by Britain's tabloid press for a good thirty years. Given that these were always the best selling papers in the country and highly influential in shaping national opinion, I guess it's hardly surprising that their abhorrent views were adopted by a significant proportion of the population, consciously or otherwise.

I guess the good people of the UK must be suffering from a severe case of cognitive dissonance.
It's not cognitive dissonance.

I don't know why you level this to just Trumps racism and tied it to Brexit as though Trumps racism is the only utterly dumb fucking thing about him. The difference is that people overseas see how dumb he is about everything else and don't blindly support and defend him due to party politics. It's also worth noting that the party that ran on Brexit, and was full of racists, failed at almost every election (the most MPs they've had were 2 - 2 too many, admittedly) so it's not like the British vote on racism for leaders. Americans seem to let their views on minorites, immigrants and women rule who they vote for but that isn't really the case here. It contributed to a one off refefernum but not to MPs.

Every country has racists, not just the UK or USA and Trump is still overwhelming disliked the world over.

It just seems like a weird angle for you to go off, especially in a thread about him sleeping with underage girls.
 
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Shy

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
18,520
The most depressing thing about all this. Is that his followers will say this is fake, downplay it by saying it's all in the past or just excusing it by saying he's an alpha and it's what they do. Or some type of shit.

Unfortunately. The law doesn't apply to the rich.

*sigh* I wish spaceships were real. So i could leave this planet, and start again somewhere new.
"BBC? I don't even like blacks! FAKE NEWS!"
Please pretend i posted every dead gif on the net. Kudos to you.

You made me laugh and smile, which is not an easy task. The way i've been feeling lately. Thanks.
 

Azraes

Member
Oct 28, 2017
997
London
Just for the record, out here when we refer to someone as a sex pest we mean that they are generally sexual harassers or men who give women unwanted sexual attention. It's a quick and easy term and even the sexual harassment cases at Westminster when investigations were going on were sort of informally referred to as 'sex pest allegations'. It's just I guess what you'd call a colloquialism in the UK. Similarly we've got terms like love rat for someone who consistently cheats on their partner/commits adultery. They could've called it Sexual Harassment but I suspect the audience for this was aimed to be people in the UK, at least initially.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
Just for the record, out here when we refer to someone as a sex pest we mean that they are generally sexual harassers or men who give women unwanted sexual attention. It's a quick and easy term and even the sexual harassment cases at Westminster when investigations were going on were sort of informally referred to as 'sex pest allegations'. It's just I guess what you'd call a colloquialism in the UK. Similarly we've got terms like love rat for someone who consistently cheats on their partner/commits adultery. They could've called it Sexual Harassment but I suspect the audience for this was aimed to be people in the UK, at least initially.
Hey, your British too. Correct sex pest is sexual harrasment term.
 

Rivenblade

Member
Nov 1, 2017
37,132
Unfortunately, Trump seems bulletproof. He's a disgusting sack of shit, but it's going to take a lot to bring him down. You would think this would do it. :-/
 

Ponn

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
3,171
If the blokes done something illegal and gets prosecuted so be it.

They'll never be another Playboy mansion, we've moved on but that shit was considered normal back then. Times change.

I'm going to start calling you all the ghost brigade. I don't think it's a coincidence.
 

Powdered Egg

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
17,070
The only thing sex-related that would even put a dent in Donald Trump is if he had sex with a pre-pubescent child. That's about it.

Any underage girls post-puberty would just be slut shamed by Republicans or considered liars. This did not damage Roy Moore at all with his base.
 

Deleted member 17092

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
20,360
Is he going to have to testify in the zervos case?

Also could all of these women combined form a class action for defamation?
 

_ifigured

Member
Oct 29, 2017
2,302
He could flat out admit to this and incels would champion his name forevermore. He won't ever cop to anything of the sort because conservatives and evangelicals are too heavenly to discuss such a disgusting devilish accusation.
 

Waddle Dee

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
3,725
California
Anyone with a brain knows that Trump is a rapist and is a pedophile. The problem isn't trying to "prove" that, since we already have more than enough evidence. The problem is that a video of Trump raping a child could be leaked online and his supporters would still defend him.