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[READ OP] Shu Yoshida: "PlayStation 4 is doing so well - we don't forget why we're here now
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Photos from that event:
also they missed one good quote about Ken Kutaragi:
Plus this:
→ https://twitter.com/developconf/status/1016606439689859072
Well now that's a lot more interesting than what is in the OP.
Hopefully they push AI, because nearly nothing is doing now. I don't expect that next gen either at this rate sadly.
Last I heard, Japan Studios has the highest head count out of any Sony studio (Around 1k IIRC) so I'm not sure why they have such a low output. I'm sure a good chunk of those are R&D guys but it can't possibly be something crazy like 900 R&D guys or something.
It's ERA, we can't get active 5+ pages discussion within a half-hour even with that poor material if it's about console makers.
Photos from that event:
also they missed one good quote about Ken Kutaragi:
Plus this:
→ https://twitter.com/developconf/status/1016606439689859072
Wonder what Ken Kutaragi had in mind if he designed PS4. But I then I probably woundt buy after PS3 launch
Not this again. Read the mod OP and move on.
Back to the topic.
PS1 transition to PS2 was pretty easy, but for those days PS5 need to have BC at least for launch tittle. Wonder if psexperience gonna made mention about ps5...
Love the PS4 and looking forward to PS5, so glad they know and keep in mind what went wrong around the PS3 launch
I'll probably wait a year or so at launch as usual before getting it so that the library grows, but I could see the launch having HZD2, and a few Xgen titles like Death Stranding, TLOU2 or Ghost of Tsushima.
Also hoping they push for BC with PS4, that eould alleviatr a lot of the library problems for a new console.
I'll probably wait a year or so at launch as usual before getting it so that the library grows, but I could see the launch having HZD2, and a few Xgen titles like Death Stranding, TLOU2 or Ghost of Tsushima.
Also hoping they push for BC with PS4, that eould alleviatr a lot of the library problems for a new console.
100k$ workstation dam son. They did good discussing with the devs while making the ps4.
Dont post here then, lots of threads on era to participate in.
Okay well once again, Cerny was responsible for the Vita. Nice to know he and Nintendo both screwed up the same year with the same concept. I'd love a Crazy Ken PS5. Shit would be next level.
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Reposting my thoughts from the other thread. Good article, really enjoy these postmortem type of stories. Sony has really come full circle in a way from the PS1 days after moving further and further from developer friendly hardware with the PS2 and PS3.
That said, I don't agree with the thread being rebooted when crossplay is directly mentioned in the article. It's forcing safe spaces for pockets of the community, supports hive-mind mentality, and hinders growth in people's understanding of different view points. I'll leave it at that since it seems to be a sensitive subject.
That said, I don't agree with the thread being rebooted when crossplay is directly mentioned in the article. It's forcing safe spaces for pockets of the community, supports hive-mind mentality, and hinders growth in people's understanding of different view points. I'll leave it at that since it seems to be a sensitive subject.
How much do you think the lack of BC will really hurt them in the PS5? As much as I'd want that, I don't know if it's a priority either way.
Well, remember that this is the exact position Sony was in during the ps2 era (market leader, strong first party and third party outpu, expected to do well the next gen). History has a tendency to repeat itself...
As a huge Nintendo fan back in the day, FF7 going to Sony messed me up big time. I bought a PS1 and quickly recovered...lol
Nah he has been head of the studios since 2012 but a lot of stuff that Japan studios has been working on this gen was started before Becker became head of the studio. Now Japan studios finally has a clean slate no more Knack or Gravity Rush(sad :( )
Yes, but Sony had never tasted failure at that time.
PS3 on the other hand brought them to the brink.
Horizon 2? Maybe something from Japan Studios? I feel lake SSM will definitely be launching something in the first year too.
The next hardware transition will be a very interesting time. It's easy to forget just before this gen people were convinced of the death of consoles and the industry. Trying to balance all the factors correctly must be intense. I'm sure the PS3 still weighs on Shu's mind when thinking about next gen
Provided that they have a base cheaper SKU for mainstream then why not
One thing that concerns me about Sony is a lot of things they do are half steps. Besides their amazing first party output they have squandered their lead in other areas. PS Now is stagnant while Game Pass is taking off. They didn't realize the potential in Vita (console portables), now Switch is taking off. PSTV could have been awesome and a Roku/Apple TV competitor. They didn't do shit with it. PSN still feels like a cobbled together mess. They had full BC on launch PS3 but took it out and really never looked back. Also the forbidden subject... they took the lead and here we are now.
It seems like the only thing Sony really nails with Playstation is their first party output. It's what carried the PS3 through their egregious mistakes and it's what continues to maintain PS4's momentum. I'm hoping with PS5 they continue with the great exclusives but also pay attention to the details this time around. Better quality consoles / controllers, an updated PSN, etc.
It seems like the only thing Sony really nails with Playstation is their first party output. It's what carried the PS3 through their egregious mistakes and it's what continues to maintain PS4's momentum. I'm hoping with PS5 they continue with the great exclusives but also pay attention to the details this time around. Better quality consoles / controllers, an updated PSN, etc.
Let's be honest, it was mostly a good transition for them because of the massive success that was the PS1 and they had essentially no worthwhile competition for a long-ass time (a limping Sega and soon-to-be-dead Dreamcast barely count). There was nothing great about the hardware itself, had the same hard-to-work-with complaints that the PS3 had, and for the entire generation it "enjoyed" noticeably worse image quality than the DC/GC/XB. You could make the argument that the struggling Dreamcast had the superior lineup during the PS2 launch and launch window. But it didn't matter. Sony had the superior brand awareness.
Likewise the eventual massive success of the PS2 is the only thing that stopped the PS3 from tanking the Playstation brand completely. As far as Sony moves go I am more impressed by how they turned the PS3 around. From the brink of death to actually beating the 360 in total sales by the end of the generation.
Again he didn't screw up the Vita, he design a great piece of hardware, that for multiple reasons didn't take off, then lost support.
I said it in the other thready but Sonys incredible success with the PS4 and the outstanding games library they've built makes me really hanker for Sony to take a third crack at a handheld to achieve the potential the Vita had but never quite reached. I really think they could make it work.
Their actions and stated policies this gen sure point to another rough time for Playstation. I don't think Shu has the power to steer hardware and platform decisions for Ps5, and the people who made those decisions for Ps4 have all been replaced by the people enforcing the anti-consumer stuff they're doing now.
That would be a crazy launch year lineup. I was hoping for Ratchet & Clank but insomniac might be busy with Spidey dlc packs. But Horizon 2, God of War 2, Japan studio new IP? Daaaaamn.
I don't think anyone, not even Sony, is gonna be insane enough to drop an SKU that expensive. I mean, what would that be, PS5 Pro Ultra?
Why do you think so? They're totally going to overcompensate for the CPU
PS2 to PS3 had full BC too... it just was removed because Sony thought the interest as small compared with the cost to maintain the PS2 hardware inside PS3 (and a team of emulation in later models) that I agree with.
PS4 to PS5 maintain the AMD APU will probably be cheaper to make BC but it is not a deal breaker feature to be successful in new generation... most gamers buy a new console to play new games and not old BC games.
The logic would be that it's the one feature Microsoft can really lord over their heads. That being said, I don't know if BC is a sure thing either. What I'm curious about is IF they do end up including it, how they're going to deal with the remaster market. TLOU sold like millions of copies of their remaster. Do they just give away all that free extra revenue?
Thank you for this mods last thread was a shit show.
Back on actual topic, Sony is doing everything right and there is a reason why they won't continue. They know what not to do thanks to the ps3, so they'll avoid this at all cost seeing that keeping the gaming pillar healthy is important now that it's Central to Sony
Back on actual topic, Sony is doing everything right and there is a reason why they won't continue. They know what not to do thanks to the ps3, so they'll avoid this at all cost seeing that keeping the gaming pillar healthy is important now that it's Central to Sony
People are really mad about the existente ps4 tittle don't be playable at ps5... I sure Xbox Next will have bc in mind if you consider the sucess of Xbox in that departament.
Its all about launch tittles, a problem of ps4 in the start of his era with lack of games. I forgive Sony because that horrible CELL cpu with is indeed hard to BC. Now with x86 arq is no other excuse.
It looks more like the same output they did before PS4 release... I don't know.
They will have hits after hits until TLOU2 release near PS5.
This batch of games until late 2019 is basically Sony setting the ground to PS5 release like they did with PS3 to PS4.
This interview is basically telling you they didn't forget the past mistakes.
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You know its controversial thread already for one reason or another lol
You know its controversial thread already for one reason or another lol
Well, mind you, when I say "Japan Studios", it could also turn out to be Knack 3 :p That being said, my ultimate hope would be some huge JRPG or something.
I really hope there's another collaboration project between Japan Studio and From Software (like Bloodborne) that's exclusive to PS5, which releases roughly 16-18 months into the lifecycle.
PS4 - Nov 2013 - Bloodborne - March 2015.
I guess it depends on when Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice gets released (hopefully H1 2019), so another 2 years after that From and Japan Studios could have a big PS5 exclusive ready.
PS4 - Nov 2013 - Bloodborne - March 2015.
I guess it depends on when Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice gets released (hopefully H1 2019), so another 2 years after that From and Japan Studios could have a big PS5 exclusive ready.
I dont know. Its not really a big issue mid gen but with launching next gen and Microsoft already establishing a big library that is gonna be their selling point, Sony needs more than just a more powerful hardware as a selling point.
I think at least Sony is thinking about it.
I doubt Cerny came up with the idea for super expensive proprietary cards, that is most likely a decision directly from Kaz or House. The Vita was an amazing handheld.
It was interesting back in 2014 Shu said this regarding PS4s sucess.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...itas-no-show-and-the-mystery-of-10m-ps4-sales
Which was strange because to myself and many other gamers the answer was obvious.
I guess MS fuck ups caught even sony by surprise.
Being successful is not rocket science.
But having the best devs and looking after them seems to be a real strength of sonys.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...itas-no-show-and-the-mystery-of-10m-ps4-sales
Which was strange because to myself and many other gamers the answer was obvious.
I guess MS fuck ups caught even sony by surprise.
Being successful is not rocket science.
But having the best devs and looking after them seems to be a real strength of sonys.