It literally tells the player after the "end" of the playthrough that there is way more to the game.
How much more do we need it spelled out for us?
How much more do we need it spelled out for us?
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Its so misleading to have end credits after first playthrough of Nier: Automata
- Thread starter JayWood2010
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Not all shows are episodic, many are serialized, which is how one would describe Nier if comparing it to a show. The credits are there to throw players off, along with a dozen other things in the game. But the game itself is simply split into 5 chapters. And it's fairly obvious the game isn't over by the end of the first route. They even tease the continuation of the game if you sit through the credits...
2B > 9S > 2B continued > A2 > 9S (last two can be flipped or you can jump between the two at various points).
You're just getting hung up on the fact that they put end credits a couple of times in there.
Or the "you should stop if its not fun at this point anymore" filter.
This game has such a huge fan base on here that will defend anything the game does unfortunately. Although I personally did love the way they handled parts 1 and 2. With the second half feeling more like a sequel it was truly epic, but I think it did more to harm the game for most unaware players more than anything.
On Xbox 27.92% of players finished Ending A, 14.74% of players finished Ending B, Ending C and D are 9.63% and 7.56% and final true Ending E is 6.72%.
I mean, it being misleading is...kind of the point? I was a little disappointed that they put the message in there saying there is more game to play, but if you want to sell a game to large audiences, you have to expect that they're going to take everything at face value, and put down the game at the credits.
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Ive already talked about this, but if i remember correct it says "We encourage you to play more Nier" or something like that. Then you play it, and you more or less are playing the same game under a new perspective. The first part especially is VERY similar to route A.
It is no way clear that the story WILL be continued until AFTER route B
It's a Yoko Taro game. This is what he does. And even if I didn't know about the other paths from gaming forums and sites, I'd have ended up going through it anyway. They tell you to keep playing after the credits....I'm not sure what the complaint is and you'll understand it more when you finish.
I wish it didn't even give us that message Tbh
It was clearly them trying to rein Taro's craziness in
Also Route B is great and the way the game is structured is fucking perfect suck it haters
I didn't know what Route C would entail so the playable credits on the Bunker and the "next time on NieR Automata" teaser GOT ME AND OTHERS SO FUCKING HYPED YOU CAN'T BELIEVE
So change anything and you would have taken that moment away
I don't remember people having this reaction to Resident Evil 2' S B Scenarios lol
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Well there was certainly more than that if you played through the whole game.
It's a smart way to unfold how the sausage is made without needless exposition, odd cuts to other characters that could easily break up the flow of the game, and instead allows the plot to unfold naturally. I can understand and agree with how a good bit of Route B is too much a retread of Route, but even then there are nuggets of new information there to drive the story along even while visiting the same locations again.
They literally tell you after the credits roll that there is more game and to continue to play if they want the whole experience. Did you somehow miss that?
The game gives enough for you to connect the dots that the story is not over yet. Ending A takes like what... 6 or 7 hours to get through if I remember correctly? Not exactly JRPG numbers, people should be expecting more and sparking curiosity at the 'Continue playing' message.
I mean its semantics at this point but you get credits at the end of an episode too. The game has 26 'endings' though, a letter of the alphabet for each.
Just because there's C after B doesn't make having to replay all of A again with some minor changes any better.
Exactly, I know there is extra content further and hiding it behind Route B is just an annoyance
Bought the game when it released, when I discovered It was vital to the story to "re-play" the game multiple times I decided I just wouldn't bother at all.
It could have been made clearer they were to be treated as totally separate chapters, if that is indeed what they are. And not the same game with multiple different endings like I assumed.
So yes I imagine there are quite a few people that bailed after the credits.
It could have been made clearer they were to be treated as totally separate chapters, if that is indeed what they are. And not the same game with multiple different endings like I assumed.
So yes I imagine there are quite a few people that bailed after the credits.
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Is he wrong for saying that? I personally thought 9S chapter sucked. 9S, more like 9Sucks.
I could have skipped his chapter entirely, and been perfectly ok with that. Either that or just skip to the part where they separate.
^This. They pretty much say there is more game so I do not see the problem here OP. People saying Route B is a retread of route A I feel never really played Route B. Sure there are some parts that are the same but there are some totally different things as well.
It is misleading, but in the best way possible. Being a Nier fan, I thought I knew how things would work out after playing Route A and B. I don't have to say how wrong I was. Route C blew me away.
Also, what they do with the credits and credit songs would not have the same impact if you weren't as familiar with it by going through it multiple times.
I wouldn't change a thing for "accessibility".
Also, what they do with the credits and credit songs would not have the same impact if you weren't as familiar with it by going through it multiple times.
I wouldn't change a thing for "accessibility".
Honestly, this is MORE than enough and a hell of a lot more than the previous Yoko Taro games ever got.I think it's explicit enough in the way it says that there are more story content to be discovered by playing through the game again : "several storylines" and "many story elements".
Probably the best VO performance in a video game I have witnessed this gen by a mile. Incredible work.
Can't be bothered to play as 9s. The already mediocre combat is made even worse with him.
Wrong.
He's a lot of fun with a Spear and hacking is OP and fun to use.
9S chapter shows more of the curious nature of his model and adds clarification for :
the purpose of YorHa, the fate of humanity, and sets up the stage for the revelation of 2E
Yeah this too, you're basically blasting thru Route B and the most time consuming parts (sidequests you already did in A) won't be repeated, and new sidequests that flesh out the themes are now available, or wouldn't make sense if you were playing 2B
No, I did. This seems like a pretty common opinion if you check the Xbox OT. It's not a surprise most people don't like replaying the game to get to part 2. Thankfully you can speedrun through B in a couple hours tops.
I'm seeing this pop up a lot in this thread, not sure why people think if you didn't like parts of the game you didn't play the "full" game. Seems like some weird elitism.
In fairness, I think the repetition of route B turned more people off than the ending credits for route A. I just recently got all the endings after taking a 4 month break when I got to route B. I am so glad I got back into it and even enjoyed route B because it was an interesting refresher on the Story I played months ago (plus a lot of really great scenes that aren't in route A) and I kind of started to appreciate the fighting style of 9S.
I wonder how OP and some people that played Automata would feel even playing the original Nier?
I would definitely there are moments of retread even though you can approach combat and boss encounters differently, because you are doing the same sections of the game. You get more of the story thanks to 9S perspective, but the locations and (most) of the enemies don't really change. The side stuff in Route B is far better due to how many of the Route B only side quests tie directly to the relationship between 9S and 2B.
wrong? Lol it's my opinion. Anyway, hacking is boring because it takes me out of the game, even if it's OP.
Sure and I won't argue with anyone if they didn't like route B because I didn't like it as much as the others as well. With saying that however, saying that there is just a couple of addition cutscenes after it's completion is still wrong when there is more than that.
The entire second half of Route B is entirely different from Route A. It's not that if you didn't like a portion of a game that you didn't play the full game...it's that your statement:
is factually wrong.
So going into this for the first time and knew nothing of original Nier. Finished 2B's route and started 9S.
At the end of the game it does say there's more story and to keep playing. And the beginning of 9S route I was into it. But now I've been doing the same stuff I did with 2B with a little bit of variation. And it's getting hard to keep going. If I didn't know that route C is apparently different, then I'd probably have quit by now. The game is fantastic but right now I feel like I picked a new class and am just replaying the game and not pushing forward. Route B can't end soon enough.
At the end of the game it does say there's more story and to keep playing. And the beginning of 9S route I was into it. But now I've been doing the same stuff I did with 2B with a little bit of variation. And it's getting hard to keep going. If I didn't know that route C is apparently different, then I'd probably have quit by now. The game is fantastic but right now I feel like I picked a new class and am just replaying the game and not pushing forward. Route B can't end soon enough.
I loved Nier 1, but collecting every weapons for endings C and D was a real pain, even if the pay off was great. And Papa Nier owns.
Collecting the weapons isn't as big a pain as playing the same section of game 4 times to see all the endings and extra scenes, even if you could easily finish it each time in a little more than an hour.
My character died 5 mins in and the credits rolled? Why would you play $60 for this???
If you get bored, you can stick to the main quest, it's only a couple of hours.
Route C unlocks the chapter select option, so you can go back and do the content/side quests you missed during any of the previous Routes.
Collecting all the weapons and upgrading them in Automata has a great payoff as well. but only if you're familiar with the first game.
Getting the true ending in Automata is so much less of a hassle than the first NieR that it's hilarious when people complain
Getting the true ending in Automata is so much less of a hassle than the first NieR that it's hilarious when people complain