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1-Year-Old Baby Appears In Immigration Court, Cries Hysterically
- Thread starter Saya
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You know there's a lot you can do that doesn't require rioting and getting yourself arrested? Like, a lot of people are working hard to put an end to this. You have thousands of people protesting, but also many people working with lawyers and advocacy groups to help reunite separated families, calling up their elected reps to put further pressure on the administration (and bring more media coverage of what's going on down there), donating to groups that have a direct hand in helping to resolve this situation. You can be doing these things too, you know.
We're talking about a president whose first appearance as a candidate was to denounce Mexicans as rapists and criminals. So no, there's no empathy for these families coming from this White House.
Naw man, I've got work tomorrow what am I going to tell my boss.
ICE are nothing but Waffen-SS to me. This disgraceful immigration policy is awful and Trump is the Führer overseeing and directing all of this inhumanity.
I hate the whole administration, top to bottom. Nothing but self-righteous Neo-Nazis, all of them.
I hate the whole administration, top to bottom. Nothing but self-righteous Neo-Nazis, all of them.
That's categorically untrue.
There are transportation and holding facility contractors making mad bank off this.
They get crazy good margins from converting Wal-Mart's into baby prisons.
But we have to be civil against the people enforcing this, poor republicans that are being denied service at restaurants while toddlers are crying in a fucking court house.
Scum.
I wonder how a person who does this for a living can sleep at night, one thing I don't have any doubt about is who they voted for.
Scum.
I wonder how a person who does this for a living can sleep at night, one thing I don't have any doubt about is who they voted for.
Open the boarder and make all immigration legal. It is the only fool proof solution to humanitarian catastrophies liket this.
Edit: Scenarios are cruel as this have been going on for multiple administration's. This is simply how the process works.
Edit: Scenarios are cruel as this have been going on for multiple administration's. This is simply how the process works.
yup, it's under-reported but the heart of this story is that the government is paying private prison contractors to run immigrant baby jails. it's sickening.
This is literally the worst part
Profiting from evil
its sick
Legal process. The judicial system is the process for deportations, not a function of the executive branch.
Jesus, why are we letting this happen? I ask that but then the question is why am I not doing something, but what people are doing isn't working, and the government thugs have the numbers and the firepower right now, without huge numbers on our side we have no chance of shutting down detention centers and ICE offices.
I'm so glad "centrists" could stick it to the man and not vote for wicked crooked hillary. Honest old trump is so much better.
I wonder if Americans realize that the groups of people they fear...the Al-Queadas, the ISIS, The MS-13s and African war lords...are all Monsters of their country's creation?
It's not even illegal immigration. It's internationally protected asylum seeking. The fact that people keep conflating two completely different groups of people helps this administration in doing what they are doing.
Then you have idiots posting about how they should be going to consulates and embassies outside of America to declare asylum. Yet you can't properly declare asylum that way, and must do so on US soil. Asylum seekers want to declare themselves to border agents and authorities, because there are UN laws regarding the right of refugees and asylum seekers. Illegal immigrants are almost always economic migrants who don't qualify for immigration under proper channels and can't claim asylum either.
God damnit.
Of-fucking-course that would considered a benefit in the U.S.A.
My superficial understanding is that the people crossing the border have to be brought before a judge or some other kind of state representative in order to argue their case. If it's accepted then they gain the status of asylum seekers. Otherwise they're considered illegal and deported.
Since the line for this is months long they are detained while they wait.
Due to the no tolerance policy - which if I understand correctly means everybody gets detained in government facilities until proven to not be illegal - along with a previous law forbidding holding minors for more than 2 weeks we have this current mess.
Is that accurate?
But the term illegal immigrants already is a loaded term in America. Referring to asylum seekers as illegal immigrants makes people view them the same as undocumented illegals. Canada for example does not use the term illegal immigrants to refer to refugees/asylum seekers due to the attached criminality of the word. You have to cross the border to declare asylum. Calling them illegal immigrants makes it appear as if an internationally protected act is criminal in nature.
The courts job is to verify the claim yes. But asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants, and referring to them as such gives people the idea that Donald Trump and ICE are dealing with people who committed a crime when they crossed the border. How you label people is very important. Especially when you've got a government doing everything in its power to circumvent international treaties it is a signatory to.
"This is an embarrassment.
Oh well, you are guilty, GTFO of the country."
Like if you are that embarrassed, stop doing the work.
Otherwise it comes across as bullshit.
Oh well, you are guilty, GTFO of the country."
Like if you are that embarrassed, stop doing the work.
Otherwise it comes across as bullshit.
I don't watch much tv...please tell me the news is talking about this regularly. Shit like this needs exposure
Even if you believe a 1 year old should come to this shit. What will you benefit from a 1 year old?
Fuck these assholes.
Fuck these assholes.
That's exactly why America will be a full blown fascist country in 2 years. Look how far we've come in 18 months.
No, the midterms will save you, also, working hours and some other shit, meanwhile, the rug was swept under your feet and the nazis are setting everything up to stay in power.
Wake the fuck up USA, before is too late.
It's sad that I imagined this line being said by Stephen Miller and dipshit Trump nodding approvingly.
That's the best he got? Crying?
Don't think that's going to sway the judge. Though I guess he's not the first defendant to use emotion in his closing argument.
Though, admittedly, playing with the ball was a pretty canny move, in how it created a sense of frivolity that would lead his opponent to underestimate him.
Likewise, the simple act of taking a sip of water can so easily be turned into a subtle act of domination; telegraphing that you're both in control of the situation, and so overtly confident in your approach that you're willing to waste precious time to argue your case by - instead - lingering on the act of hydration.
It's a bold strategy, with a fairly significant risk of back-firing in case the judge finds your behavior bordering on arrogant. But it's SUCH a bold and calculated move that you just have to assume that his confidence is grounded in a pretty solid game-plan.
If we assume at least a baseline level of competence, then we also have to assume that he knows where he's going with this, and that it's not as "crazy" as some are so quick to describe it as (not calling out anyone in particular on a popular social media platform here, but "if the shoe fits"....)
It is, in fact, an approach that has proved successful in a number of high-profile cases before his. And so, while he - in my opinion - is doing a bit of a maverick-routine here, I also definitely understand why he's approaching the case from this angle.
Very interesting. Risky, but definitely interesting. Will follow the case closely as it evolves. My gut-feeling is that there is a lot to learn from this case, despite my initial skepticism regarding his behavior.
#NeverStopLearning
Don't think that's going to sway the judge. Though I guess he's not the first defendant to use emotion in his closing argument.
Though, admittedly, playing with the ball was a pretty canny move, in how it created a sense of frivolity that would lead his opponent to underestimate him.
Likewise, the simple act of taking a sip of water can so easily be turned into a subtle act of domination; telegraphing that you're both in control of the situation, and so overtly confident in your approach that you're willing to waste precious time to argue your case by - instead - lingering on the act of hydration.
It's a bold strategy, with a fairly significant risk of back-firing in case the judge finds your behavior bordering on arrogant. But it's SUCH a bold and calculated move that you just have to assume that his confidence is grounded in a pretty solid game-plan.
If we assume at least a baseline level of competence, then we also have to assume that he knows where he's going with this, and that it's not as "crazy" as some are so quick to describe it as (not calling out anyone in particular on a popular social media platform here, but "if the shoe fits"....)
It is, in fact, an approach that has proved successful in a number of high-profile cases before his. And so, while he - in my opinion - is doing a bit of a maverick-routine here, I also definitely understand why he's approaching the case from this angle.
Very interesting. Risky, but definitely interesting. Will follow the case closely as it evolves. My gut-feeling is that there is a lot to learn from this case, despite my initial skepticism regarding his behavior.
#NeverStopLearning
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It fucking sucks because I think this family separation thing is "storm the castle" worthy but for me I have kids and I'm not willing to get arrested or injured for anything but them. And then in my subconscious I know if shit hits the fan I have relatives in other countries that we can flee to.
I should be getting extra money thrown my way and want to donate to reunification groups but this whole "lets be fair moral and by the book" thing is only going to get us so far. What happens in the future if they ignore the Courts, then what? For someone so dumb and incompetent, Trump is doing a good test-run for a future efficient monster.
It's not just illegal immigration. It's legal immigrants, and even US citizens being seperated in their zeal to be shitty to brown people who speak funny.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/11/us-immigration-family-separations-doj-us-citizens
Putting 1 year olds(and 2, and 3, and 4, etc..) in a court to sentence them for immigration law violations is 100% Orwellian bullshit insanity. It is patently and obviously absurd(I can't believe this even has to be said).
It highlights the vast chasm between humanity(I'm a baby that wants to be close to my parents) and American immigration law/practice.
Abolish ICE
It highlights the vast chasm between humanity(I'm a baby that wants to be close to my parents) and American immigration law/practice.
Abolish ICE
Yeah, I can't believe this story didn't get more traction last week, but did everyone see the office building with blocked windows that turned out to be a child detention center in Phoenix? They apparently already had it loaded up with kids, including toddlers, the day before Sessions announced "zero tolerance" and before the separations became common knowledge. The neighbor lady saw them being unloaded and thought it may be some kind of human trafficking and called the cops and the press, and captured video:
Reveal picked it up and did some investigative reporting and discovered that it was actually being run by a contractor ICE was paying called MVM, a company founded and run by former CIA staff.
After the story blew up locally last week with people protesting and leaving toys outside, MVM issued a statement that the building was never used as anything but a logistic waypoint to drop them off from one van and consolidate and reroute them to other vehicles. Which is clearly bullshit since they were there for weeks. Then they quietly loaded up everyone in the middle of the night and moved then to... somewhere else.
https://www.revealnews.org/article/...grant-kids-in-vacant-phoenix-office-building/
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My heart can't take this. I rather have Trump steal millions of tax dollars than do this to kids.
If you wanted to join up the last few dots of this shitshow:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/09/illinois-governor-detention-centers-702293
