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Octopath Traveler: Preview Thread
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JRPGs are almost always going to be particularly divisive, whether in the scoring of reviewers or general audiences, because the parts of their whole are divisive. In Octopath's case:
Turn-based? Check. Random encounters? Check. Strategic combat, demanding you learn its well-tutorialized systems? Check. Pixel art? Check. Atypical narrative structure? Check. Level dynamics that allow for grinding, the easy method of which is a specific enemy type? Check. Open-ended exploration and character recruitment? Check.
It'll be interesting to see the reviewers' thoughts, but especially in a lengthy game like this, they may often not be accurate reflections of the whole experience.
No I don't. And if a nintendolife reviewer posted what he said, I'd respond the same way. It's not exclusive to just Jason, but he's the one with the demeaning tone posting on the forum, so I'm only addressing him.
Lol yeah, really. PMD Explorers of Sky got a 54 on MC and it's one of my favorite games (granted... it got an 86 user score, so the reviewers probably were really out of touch with the average consumer in this case lol).
He's stated multiple times he liked the game. Not sure what else you're looking for. Just wait for the review tomorrow. Jesus.
I think people mostly care about reviews so much not for themselves but so the game will sell well, because they want more like it released in the future
This is why I hope it will score good anyway
I don't want the game to bomb then square say well we aren't trying anything like that again for awhile
This is why I hope it will score good anyway
I don't want the game to bomb then square say well we aren't trying anything like that again for awhile
But you'd expect one or two reviewers to give it a 4/10 or 5/10 if they were honest about how they enjoyed the game. Not everyone will enjoy a game, even a very well done one.
Of course, the aggregate being 4/10 or 5/10 would be absolutely ridiculous.
As in piracy? Because I don't see how it being in the wild is of any benefit to anyone, hacked Switch or not, who's yet to receive their copy.
For those who can't wait, there's a way to get to play more till you legitimately get the game, you can bypass the 3 hours limit of the demo by editing the save. You're still limited to chapter 1, but can do them all. There's a thread on gbatemp.
I wish review scores weren't a thing. They're meaningless scores on skewed number scale that just cause reactionary replies from people that don't actually read the content of the review. It seems like people need a big number to validate their purchase or to prove to everyone that the game they like rated is higher than such and such game.
I agree. People will attack reviews and reviewers for their opinions regardless (often by cherry picking statements from reviews they don't like and use them out of context to dismiss the entire review), but scores makes it too easy and the discourse far too shallow.
Well I plan on getting all of them for the stories anyway. But you don't have to finish everyone's story.
Numbers aren't the problem. People way, way too attached to their hobby are.
Amen. [EDIT] -- Actually, I think we're coming at this from different angles now that I read it again. But what said fits in with my opinion -- the term "gamer" is meaningless and does nothing but create an unhealthy tribal mentality.
If you think Jason is being demeaning, then you are exactly the type of "Gamer" that needs to reevaluate your personal connect to the hobby. None of the shit in this thread --- none of it --- should impact you personally. It is a video game.
I can agree with this statement. Judging games purely in terms of numbers is a bad approach. Metacritic specifically has been a bad influence here.
As gamers we need to remember it's very important to look at more than just review scores, and to not take metacritic at face value.
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You do realize this is just the surface of this forum right?
Got plenty of room here to talk about games at a deep level.
Yes, that's what I meant. Someone has ripped and uploaded a full copy. I do remember hearing about the 3 hour bypass but I think i'll just wait at this point!
It genuinely shocks me how many people rely on MetaCritic in general. I still constantly think back to the Bethesda/Obsidian situation as a prime example of how toxic sites like that can really be.
I don't give a fuck about reviews, I was just replying based on what I've read.
My opinion is, metacritic is dumb and review threads should be banned here since people can't use their brain and behave like normal people.
It's definitely rough. The obsession over Metacritic in particular really gets to me. Some people are so obsessed with that one number and little else when they might be better served paying attention to the thoughts contained in the reviews used to reach that number.
What's wrong with hoping this scores well so it sells well (yes the 2 are usually linked) so we get sequels and even more support from SE on the Switch? I don't see the problem personally, it's not being too attached to their hobby at all.
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I wouldn't respect a 4/10 or 5/10, to be honest, I've seen games that are broken that get better scores so why should Octopath Traveler get a 4 or 5 out of 10 when it seems like it's not broken (unless of course it is but we had 0 reports of that), I can respect your opinion about not liking the story, gameplay, etc but a 4 or 5 out of 10 would mean the game is trash in my opinion.
And from what I played it's way better then a 4 or 5.
You shouldn't wrap your identity around it so hard you feel personally slighted when it doesn't happen.
There's nothing wrong with that. That's not attached. Getting overly defensive and having some weird, overly personal attachment to a video game? That's crazy.
I think I will get all eight, play it with the four rogue ones and after I finished their story I will play with the four noble ones.
22 years without a big SquareEnix JRPG on a Nintendo console does strange things to people's heads.
To be fair though, it'll be really weird to a lot of us if the reviews come in low, especially after:
- The first demo was downloaded 1.5 million times
- The second demo was almost universally loved, causing preorders to hit the roof
- The previews were very positive about the gameplay, music, visuals and only a few mentioned the storytelling issues
Not saying that that any lukewarm reviews will be wrong, it'll just be jarring if that's how the game actually is.
We could also be disappointed because it is not an ARPG but it would also be unfruitful.
Maybe if the aggregate comes in low.
But what's going to happen is the game isn't going to click with some people, and regardless of whatever the overarching narrative is, people will jump down the throat of those handful of people and that will be all the review thread discusses for 47 pages.
I never said it personally affected me, I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about with that and me evaluating my "personal connect" to the hobby. I merely stated the response wasn't necessary.
Your opinion of what I'm allowed to feel/think/share means nothing to me at all and I find your post childish and really way too try-hard, so don't stress about me being 'personally connected.'
Let's all just get back to the game.
I probably wouldn't respect the opinion either (i tend to respect the user score averages the most), but if it's an honest reflection of what the reviewer thought of the game, then I think it can be a useful perspective as long as they don't get obvious information wrong + they gave the game a reasonable shot.
man it's gonna be absolute chaos tomorrow. props to schrier and every other reviewer out there for somehow being able to maintain their sanity in a profession that requires dealing with shit like this constantly
It's odd to hope a game sells well so you get sequels before you even know if that game is any good. You're essentially just buying into marketing at this point. (And no, a three-hour demo can't give you an accurate measure of the quality of a JRPG that's at least 10 times as long.)
If a reviewer gives the game 4/10 that's the opinion of the reviewer.
Is it so difficulty to grasp?
Because if people are going with "all reviews under 6/10 is clickbait", then what happens with the reviews that actually is an honest opinion on the game, but will still be regarded as clickbait?
Is it so difficulty to grasp?
Because if people are going with "all reviews under 6/10 is clickbait", then what happens with the reviews that actually is an honest opinion on the game, but will still be regarded as clickbait?
Surprised at how many people are knocking the game
Its still a fine game based on my first 3 hours with
Yeah the character interactions being limited is a bummer but a complete deal breaker?
Its still a fine game based on my first 3 hours with
Yeah the character interactions being limited is a bummer but a complete deal breaker?
I think it's more of hoping for more games with that artstyle/graphics than a direct squel to octopath at this point atleast
There are people in this very thread who have cancelled preorders or gone from hyped to pass over minimal things in otherwise positive previews.
It's not scores. You're on an enthusiast board, people here take things way more seriously and are way more reactive. That's just what it is.
Personally, I already have it preordered, I'll play it and then I'll judge. A 1 or a 10 isn't going to sway me. That said, I also don't ever read reviews so. . .
Is that your go-to? Calling people childish? Cute.
You got upset when someone said "gamers!" I assume you identify with that label. If you didn't, you wouldn't have told the person to "grow up." You also seem to be getting upset by what Jason is saying about the game. So there definitely seems to be some connection there.
And also, please trust that there is no stress here. Not over this shit. That is for sure.
Yeah. I think FF Gaiden was a total mess, but still hoped for more from that team.
There's not a lot of people knocking the game. The previews are generally positive but the few mixed or negative impressions are what powers these threads towards 100 pages.
So you are determining whether we are allowed to form an opinion of the game after playing the demo now? Anything else we are not allowed to do? You also completely ignored where I said about SE giving even more support to the Switch which would be nice as their games are usually of a high quality.
It's such a shame that people think more highly of a number than the actual opinion in the written review. These are reviews written by human beings with complex opinions. I would be disappointed about no character interactions and no over arching story but I know from the demo I would still enjoy the game. However, if I were reviewing the game it would be disingenuous for me not to mention that disappointment.
Hot take: I'm just going to buy and play the game, maybe complete it, maybe put it down to play other games.
Disagree here. No, it is not always an accurate measure, however, in my experience it is usually a good indicator. I like demos, even if rare these days, because demos have sold me on a game - even an rpg - and nine times out of ten, a demo that I liked turned out to be a full game that I have liked. By the same token, I have played demos before that did not do it for me, and either made me skip the game or wait down the line for a price cut.