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FrakEarth

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,273
Liverpool, UK
And why would he be afraid of that? Where is this epidemic of men being falsely accused of rape?

If he were to think logically and ask himself that question I'm sure he'd find no evidence of any. It probably does speak to his opinion of some cases or some kind of doubt arising from being of the male tribe.. and if so that kinda sucks he sees me too that way, but I do think if you take him at his word it's just kinda sad for him too.

The cachet of a celebrity is their appeal and reputation, once it's gone it's gone, it makes sense to me that people like Cavill might be paranoid and afraid of having their career ruined by things in their personal life - but the power is in his hands. It's a shame to be this paranoid. People are people. Women are people. Just be normal.

If I were in his position and genuinely worried like this, maybe I'd just cover my ass. Keep every message. Meet people in groups. Learn to trust then trust. But what way is that to live if you've no reason to act this way in the first place? I honestly think I'd quit acting if I felt like he does actually. It's a sad, personally limiting and silly way to think.
 

Sowrong

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,442
The next line in the quote clears it up. It's basically about possibly being labeled a creep, for trying to win someone over and if you're famous, male and a creep, it's easily extrapolated to rapist. At least you see that jump here quite often. Ohh I heard x is a creep, I wouldnt be surprised if..
 

LucidMomentum

Member
Nov 18, 2017
3,645
Cavill is like the opposite of Evans.

Hella Suss and keeps making himself look bad.

Like, I have never once been accused of rape and I shoot my shot all the time.

That's not what happens and you know it, Mr. Bizarro Superman.
 

ElBoxy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,125
There are better ways to talk about this than admitting to liking things "old-fashioned". You just come off real guilty.
 

K' Dash

Banned
Nov 10, 2017
4,156
User Warned: Baseless fearmongering about how women react to being approached by men.
I can see a lot of people here need to revisit elementary school reading comprehension.

With that said, I know where he is coming from, when approaching a girl you know nothing about ANYTHING can go wrong for the common person, now imagine that for a movie star like him.
 

dennett316

Member
Nov 2, 2017
2,979
Blackpool, UK
Where are all these cases of people being arrested for rape for going up to someone at a bar and saying hi? I keep hearing about them but never see the actual cases.
I think they happened in the same area where gay people got married, so that led to fathers marrying their sons and people marrying dogs....and other such bullshit slippery slope claims.
 
OP
OP

rude

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,812
I think OP should have put the whole #MeToo part of the article in his post rather than just that one section

Hes clearly taking a shot at the me too ideology and trying to suggest theyre being overly sensitive and critical of the way men behave with women, which is ridiculous because 1. they have every right to be critical and 2. no, no one is labeling anyone a rapist for simply talking to them.
 

Kasumin

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Nov 19, 2017
1,929
This is why I'm glad Chris Evans has a publicist. Even if she told him to stop appearing shirtless in movies and advertisements... :(
 
Oct 30, 2017
4,190
Is it that surprising that celebrities would be more careful with who they interact with? Their livelihoods depend on their public image/reputation.
 

ToddBonzalez

The Pyramids? That's nothing compared to RDR2
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
15,530
dafuq? That's such a massive leap of logic, I can't even wrap my head around it. Unless He is actually super creepy in his "pursuits" of women and this is his justification for women calling him rapey.
 

nib95

Contains No Misinformation on Philly Cheesesteaks
Banned
Oct 28, 2017
18,498
As a separate thing, this does also bring in to play another thing I think people sometimes forget when talking about handsome men or women. I think many assume that good looking or buff guys etc are automatically likely to be socially adept or good at reading situations, but as Cavill's comment highlights, he clearly isn't. Instead he's socially awkward, nervous, poor at reading situations and also at communicating them or his feelings.

Basically he's someone who got buff and well groomed late in life, and predominantly after an acting role, but as his child photos, interviews etc show, he's shy, awkward, introverted and wasn't necessarily always this stud he's portrayed to be in his roles.
 

Tabby

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Oct 25, 2017
7,335
User warned: Dismissive drive-by posting, trolling.
wow @ this thread, holy shit.

He's not raping anyone for fucks sake, nor is he "red pilling" anyone either.

Jesus christ, where is the moderation? I'm going to leave this thread before I get banned or something.
Yeah, some of the posts on here are fucking embarassing, insensitive and inconsiderate.

Like wow yeah fuck Cavill for being insecure. What a cuck amirite?
 

Ahhthe90s

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,294
He's undermining a movement of women's justice and exposure for veiled assault by saying nonsense like this and people out here mumbling "I g-get what he's saying"

The fuck? You do? That makes you a paranoid dweeb
I get what he's saying.

I don't practice what he's saying (because I'm not a fucking celeb or under the spotlight 24/7).

His position on this and my position differ.

I'm not a paranoid dweeb for understanding him.
 

Kaako

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,736
Anytime someone mentions "old fashioned" you just know it's time for a pause and some critical thinking.
 

Keyouta

The Wise Ones
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,193
Canada
I'm understanding his statement to mean that he is scared to be falsely accused for rape when say, flirting with another woman. Bad choice of words. It however doesn't make his views correct, interacting with women while thinking they're out to get you is a very bad mindset to have.
 

Chris.

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Oct 27, 2017
1,920
Or... Don't be a rapist and harrass girls and just talk to them normal?

This is coming off really bad for him Jesus. Your a good looking dude I'm sure you can find a girlfriend by just being you know.. Normal
 
Oct 25, 2017
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And why would he be afraid of that? Where is this epidemic of men being falsely accused of rape?

Even more so public figures. Like these are people who multiple other people corroborate where they are and who they are with. False accusation would be very difficult to make up that wouldn't be debunked very quickly
 

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Roy

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Oct 27, 2017
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User banned (5 days): Baseless fearmongering about how women react to being approached by men.
From merely walking up and talking to someone?
Not according to her, according to her you groped her. She was too shocked to say something at the time so she's unleashing everything on social media
 

Dead Guy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,597
Saskatchewan, Canada
I mean I think I get what he's trying to say but yeah it comes off really fucking poorly.

I don't approach women not because I think I'm gonna be accused of being a rapist, but because I assume I'm just gonna be a bother/annoyance to anyone I try to talk to. So I just don't.
 

Brazil

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Oct 24, 2017
18,406
São Paulo, Brazil
I can see a lot of people here need to revisit elementary school reading comprehension.

With that said, I know where he is coming from, when approaching a girl you know nothing about ANYTHING can go wrong for the common person, now imagine that for a movie star like him.
What the fuck are you people doing when you approach women? In what universe is approaching women is such a high risk activity?
 

BashNasty

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Oct 30, 2017
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I get what he says, see no issues. Maybe not communicated 100% as it should be but I get it. The outrage in this thread is absurd.

Agreed. He should have gotten his point across better, but he's talking about being falsely accused which, for a man in his position, seems like a legitimate thing to worry about.

No need for all the predictable outrage.
 

Kyoufu

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Oct 26, 2017
16,582
what the fuck did I just read? why would you be called a rapist for talking to someone o_O
 

HardRojo

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
26,096
Peru
It's almost as if keeping your hands off unwanted places when you first start dating a woman is impossible. For fuck's sake.
 

Extra Sauce

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Oct 27, 2017
5,911
I think he's talking about the irrational fear of consensual sex being followed by a false accusation of rape. Which in theory is possible but he has significantly more chances of getting into a tragic car accident and I bet that doesn't prevent him from stepping into a car on a regular basis.

I want to believe there was no malice to what he said but it was worded very poorly. At best it came from a place of ignorance.
 

Buzzman

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,549
Agreed. He should have gotten his point across better, but he's talking about being falsely accused which, for a man in his position, seems like a legitimate thing to worry about.

No need for all the predictable outrage.
Why is that a thing to worry about? Who has that happened to?
 

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
52,923
That's not a position worth discussing. False rape accusations against celebrities are not so common that people should have to worry about them, which makes this little more than fear mongering. It makes it sound like false rape accusations are happening with much greater frequency and potency than is actually the case. Which ultimately puts out the message that women can't be trusted.

He may not have realized that's how he comes across, but that doesn't stop it from being harmful.

I'm not saying his fear is valid. I'm just saying that what he is trying to get at, but he is apparently a moron and can't say it properly.
 

SugarNoodles

Member
Nov 3, 2017
8,625
Portland, OR
If you pay attention to the part where he talks about being "old fashioned" and "there's something wonderful about a man chasing a woman" he's basically getting at the fact that he doesnt think men should have to leave women alone when they say no or express a lack of interest. He want's that oldschool rape culture vibe where you pursue them relentlessly until they cave in and it's alright because you're so handsome and charming.
 

Playco Armboy

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
3,406
I get what he's saying.

I don't practice what he's saying (because I'm not a fucking celeb or under the spotlight 24/7).

His position on this and my position differ.

I'm not a paranoid dweeb for understanding him.

'I get what he's saying' or 'I get where he's coming from' = 'there is some validity to his postulations that I will not outright agree with because bad optics'

Listen, buddy, we all understand the words coming out of his mouth. We're lambasting him for it and not throwing out half-assed 'ehh he's not wrong' admittances because it's a stupid-as-fuck perspective to have celebrity or not.
 

Alienous

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,598
I guess he's just hyper-aware and cautious over his image. He could be someone who's used to drunken flings, or sexualized discourse, struggling to adapt to a less trepidatious way of conducting sexual interactions.
 

Royalan

I can say DEI; you can't.
Moderator
Oct 24, 2017
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Translation: "I miss the days where I could throw my unabashed affections at any woman of my choosing, without having to wonder or care about whether or not she wanted my attention."

And that's all there is to it. Male privilege at its finest.

The "I'll be called a rapist or something" is a comfortable rationale for some men, because it's an easy excuse. Because the truth is there is such a thing as consensual chasing. But that requires thought, and actually paying attention to the person you are pursuing, instead of just relying on a script of "I say this, I do this, and it gets me laid."