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I cannot remember the last EA game i bought... Mass effect 3 perhaps. the stocks value is not my fault xD
 

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They do charge a lot! It's also likely they have some amount of revenue sharing.

They also don't want to shake up a good thing. NCAA died over their licensing changes, and MLB games are tiny compared to other sports after Take-Two's bad licensing deal caused Take-Two's MLB business to implode.

I mean NCAA died because of the O'Bannon case and them (being both EA and the NCAA) refusing to pay the players at all. MLB is kind of insane given the fact its completely locked to one platform only, MLB themselves have tried to step in and have a game on more platforms but it seems pretty poor in general.

Sports games are weird in general because theres a de facto exclusive (either in terms of actual exclusivity or relevancy) for basically all of them which sucks. Can't imagine PES has a lot longer left to live
 
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sph3re

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I really don't understand stock changes. EA off of a terrible E3 goes up, while Capcom off of a super successful Monster Hunter goes down.

I guess what I value isn't all that valuable in the big picture.
You're not an investor, your opinion doesn't matter as much as theirs does. Sad but true.
 

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Those stock threads of late are great lol And people said last year that EA would be in a bad place with what happened in relation with their stock..

I really don't understand stock changes. EA off of a terrible E3 goes up, while Capcom off of a super successful Monster Hunter goes down.

I guess what I value isn't all that valuable in the big picture.

That's because E3 isn't that important for EA stock. What people thinks of their conference isn't that relevant since the games and the services of EA continues to do very well every year. And most of their titles also have different focus of public, being more open.

And for Capcom case, the shareholders were worried because MHW while a success don't have a good leg and it's slowing down too soon unlike the past games of the franchise.
 

Ray Barata

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I really don't understand stock changes. EA off of a terrible E3 goes up, while Capcom off of a super successful Monster Hunter goes down.

I guess what I value isn't all that valuable in the big picture.

That's because quick events in time, like E3, have little or no impact on a company's valuation. It's straight up about performance. EA pisses a lot of people off, but one group of people it doesn't piss of are the investors, who see revenue, return on investment and a long term strategy to carry forward into the future. Remember the Battlefront 2 issue didn't get address because of a huge backlash from consumers. Real movement happened when Disney, the license holder, began making waves about removing the property. It was an institutional stakeholder, like Disney, that moved EA on the BF2 issue, not random posters on Twitter and ERA.
 

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I thought Square Enix were bigger, not behind Bandai Namco and Konami, wow.

Bandai Namco in that case refers to all of their markets, not just Bandai Namco Entertainment which is the console/mobile one. It picks anime production, toys, music, arcade, amusement and many others. You can see it here if you're interested:
https://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/about/grouplink.html

For Konami, outside of Konami Digital Entertainment which is their console/mobile one, they have other 3 divisions with Pachinko, Arcades, Cassinos around the world, Health and Fitness in those others.
https://www.konami.com/corporate/en/business/

While with Square Enix they're more on console/mobile with other ventures such as publishing manga with their Gangan magazines and creating action figures/merchandise.
 

Kill3r7

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I wonder when we will start seeing consolidation? It is happening in every industry.
 

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should have invested in gaming stock since the start of the gen. would be raking in that dough right now :[
Yes. Since EA includes stock in our compensation, we get easy access to historical data on stock price. In February of 2013, the share price was like $18. That's like 820% growth in five years. Wish I'd joined earlier.
 

WillySJ3

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Namco and Konami have a lot more eggs in different baskets I believe. Also more successful mobile stuff.

Bandai Namco in that case refers to all of their markets, not just Bandai Namco Entertainment which is the console/mobile one. It picks anime production, toys, music, arcade, amusement and many others. You can see it here if you're interested:
https://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/about/grouplink.html

For Konami, outside of Konami Digital Entertainment which is their console/mobile one, they have other 3 divisions with Pachinko, Arcades, Cassinos around the world, Health and Fitness in those others.
https://www.konami.com/corporate/en/business/

While with Square Enix they're more on console/mobile with other ventures such as publishing manga with their Gangan magazines and creating action figures/merchandise.


Oh ok, thanks!
 

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should have invested in gaming stock since the start of the gen. would be raking in that dough right now :[

Some gaming related stocks are stupidly profitable these days. For example, we went up like $40 per share in a single year. Ubisoft got up about $55 per share.
 
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So much for investors punishing them for lootboxes.

Or almost completely missing the Switch Gold Rush.

Or basically anything people don't like from EA.

Makes you wonder why Capcom gets the hammer and they don't.
 

Kill3r7

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So much for investors punishing them for lootboxes.

Or almost completely missing the Switch Gold Rush.

Or basically anything people don't like from EA.

Makes you wonder why Capcom gets the hammer and they don't.

EA is pretty darn consistent when it comes to revenue and their sports IPs are massive reason why. A consistent source of revenue.
 

Aktlys

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Last time EA stocks was at the highest ever, they tried to buy Take2 and the market crashed.
 

GitarooMan

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The potential of Origin Access Premier and growth of subscription revenue over the long term is probably being baked into this. Huge dollars potentially if EA can provide compelling software to subscribe.
 

henhowc

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Some gaming related stocks are stupidly profitable these days. For example, we went up like $40 per share in a single year. Ubisoft got up about $55 per share.

yeah i was looking at ea, activision, take two, ubisoft...all have done really well.

am cry :[

am debating which of the major publishers i should buy into if i were to try and jump in now. ms and sony have done well too but slightly more tempered since they aren't solely focused on gaming.