Switch is killing it this Summer with games

Jawbreaker · Jul 12, 2018

This year has been incredibly disappointing for me as a multiconsole/PC owner. You can personally declare it a good year if you prefer using your switch (portability) or these games are new to you, but it's perfectly valid for others to be down on Wii U/late ports making up the bulk of its notable releases.

TheLastCandle · Jul 12, 2018

I can't keep up with it. Too many awesome games.

Deleted member 249 · Jul 12, 2018

Bruceleeroy said:
I completely agree with that. I'm not perturbed by the fact that there would be little to play on the Switch right now (Which isn't the case there is plenty for me to play). Even my X1 gets a decent amount of play right now due to some of the better performing multi-plats but again if I'm going to go to the effort to make A LIST its not going to include all the titles that are available elsewhere.
Thats just how I feel about it

That's fair, I don't disagree with that lol. Generally speaking, I tend to come down to exclusives on these things myself. But there are specific considerations there- for instance, once I hopped off PC gaming a few years ago, the PS4 became my go to for major multiplats as that was the only way i would be able to play them. The Switch is my preferred way of playing ALL games thanks to its portability and associated convenience, so any game available on it is similarly to its merit.

In totality, the Switch's lineup this Summer is great. If you have, or would rather, play those games elsewhere, then I see why the list would be more truncated to you. I respect that.

But the games are still a part of the list, lol. That was my point.

Mcjmetroid · Jul 12, 2018

Einbroch said:
You mentioned ports in your post. A good chunk of these games are ports. You're on a board of 'core' gamers where owning multiple consoles, especially ones as different as PS4/XBOX, PC, and Switch are, is commonplace, and you're surprised that people are downplaying your use of 'killing it'?

Come on.

Oh no I'm not suprised at all don't get me wrong.
You think if I changed the wording to "the switch has had fantastic games this summer", that would have made a difference here.
I don't think so people would still draw a "... Compared to what?" And go from there..

My original point was really that people are constantly saying the Switch has a major drought. Including Nintendo fans themselves on this forum. I've seen people get disappointed at E3 and worried but for a usually quiet period I think it's rather good. I listed the lineup of critically acclaimed games, I haven't played them all of course but I feel there is variety in that list.

Yes it helps if you haven't played them originally but I own a PS4 and still manage to find something interest on the Switch every 2 weeks or so.

For me Hollow Knight sealed the deal in general.

Braaier · Jul 12, 2018

Hu3 said:
Sorry but i wouldn't trade performance for portability most of those games I already played on pc and ps4. I am a parent so I could care less about portability, my daughter loves it as in a child it's easier to move around while playing, but I personally don't care I care about fidelity and performance.

Huh

I'm a parent so I absolutely care about portability! Being a parent, portability is a huge selling point for me. No way can I find time to sit in front of a TV and play a game.

carlosrox · Jul 12, 2018

But Switch has no games ;)

There's literally way too many games to play.
My backlog for one console alone is ridiculous. Add PS4 and PC to the mix and it's impossible.
I just choose my battles. I can make the most disgusting giant list of games I wanna play on all platforms.

Braaier · Jul 12, 2018

leng jai said:
The main issue with this thread that for most people saying the Switch Summer line up as "killing it" is a massive stretch.

For you maybe. Not for me.

WordsintheWater · Jul 12, 2018

Phantom Thief said:
I'm not arguing with that one bit. I'm saying that if that's true, then that's true of every console ever, especially since multi platform games started to be a thing.
The interesting thing to me is your final observation- this is an enthusiast forum, and the average person owns more than just one system. Absolutely. So why does a perceived dry spell for one system matter, when you have something else to pick up the slack? As an example, the second half of last year through to January this year I only used my Switch, and didn't use my PS4. From January to late May this year, I mostly used my PS4, with some Xbox sprinkled in, and didn't touch my Switch. In both cases, that the systems not being used didn't have much to offer to me didn't bother me, because the others did. If someone owns more than one system, why does it matter if one of them goes unused for a while as you focus on the other?

Then this thread is dumb in general? Why even make this thread? I don't get what's wrong with someone coming in and commenting on how they feel the Switch isn't killing it for them because there are a bunch of ports in that list. Like how is that bad? For me it's killing it, but for other's it isn't, them making a comment like that bothering you is more of an issue than the comment. It's pretty obvious to see why other's think there's a drought, it's not hard to see at all. Should the whole thread be filled with, "Yeah, it's killing it", there's a lot of negativity on this board, but there's also a lot of people starting something out of nothing, the posters comment who started this whole argument was a comment of absolutely no value except to stir some crap up that shouldn't have been stirred in the first place, as people viewing the lineup to be dry shouldn't be controversial. And this is coming from someone who thinks it's killing it.

Normal · Jul 12, 2018

Uh I guess it's a great for people that only own a Switch and no other platform. Only thing on that list that I have somewhat interest in and don't already own is Octopath Traveller, and I'm just going to wait for that to go on sale. For me the lineup is rather weak...
I'll be waiting until Smash/Pokemon are released to buy my next Switch game which isn't until the end of the year. So I can't say they're killing it. :|

Aters · Jul 12, 2018

On one hand, I'm so picky that none of those games appeal to me. On the other hand, my backlog is so big I can live on it for a few years without any new releases.

TheMisterManGuy · Jul 12, 2018

Hu3 said:
Sorry but i wouldn't trade performance for portability most of those games I already played on pc and ps4. I am a parent so I could care less about portability, my daughter loves it as in a child it's easier to move around while playing, but I personally don't care I care about fidelity and performance.

Understandable. But most Switch owners bought the system for the entire point of the console, to take their favorite games with them. In that sense, these ports, even if late and not as pretty still matter to most Switch owners, and are still rather good ports on their own. It also helps that portability isn't a gimmick and is a viable reason to buy these games again, or even over the other versions. On Wii U you had no reason to buy third party games there because you were often missing modes, and suffered from terrible performance for the sake of some tacked on Gamepad gimmicks, but Switch version are actually good ports with all the features that you can take with you.

Guaraná · Jul 12, 2018

Hu3 said:
Sorry but i wouldn't trade performance for portability most of those games I already played on pc and ps4. I am a parent so I could care less about portability, my daughter loves it as in a child it's easier to move around while playing, but I personally don't care I care about fidelity and performance.

If ou care about performance and not portability, then maybe the Switch is not for you.

Bruceleeroy · Jul 12, 2018

Phantom Thief said:
That's fair, I don't disagree with that lol. Generally speaking, I tend to come down to exclusives on these things myself. But there are specific considerations there- for instance, once I hopped off PC gaming a few years ago, the PS4 became my go to for major multiplats as that was the only way i would be able to play them. The Switch is my preferred way of playing ALL games thanks to its portability and associated convenience, so any game available on it is similarly to its merit.

In totality, the Switch's lineup this Summer is great. If you have, or would rather, play those games elsewhere, then I see why the list would be more truncated to you. I respect that.

But the games are still a part of the list, lol. That was my point.

Yeah and I guess we both do still agree that there is plenty to play on the Switch right now which is really the whole point of the thread.

Deleted member 176 · Jul 12, 2018

DigitalOp said:
Its not that safe of an assumption. People aren't made of money. People have different priorities. Sure, there is a percentage of users that get there Day 1. Its nowhere close to assume everyone has played everything. You see how many games are listed above? There are new games released everyday.

I haven't even gotten to games I wanted in 2016

Yes, all of these games can be found cheaper. Suppose someone enjoys playing on Switch more than other consoles? Suppose they only have a Switch for reasons?

My point is the exact sentence you quoted. Don't assume everybody plays everything immediately. A port is just an extra choice. More choices dont hurt anyone.

I think that second point is why people ate clarifying with "if you own another console"

blacktout · Jul 12, 2018

Phantom Thief said:
Yeah, kinda hard to keep up with the deluge of new releases.

Seriously, I just got Mario + Rabbid with the DK expansion, Hollow Knight, and Mario Tennis last month, and now I have Octopath Traveler and Captain Toad arriving tomorrow. I want to get the Octo Expansion too, but there's no reason to right now because it would just add to the indecision that comes with having too much choice, And that's not to mention I still have a bunch of games from last year that I want to return to.

Anyone who thinks this is a drought must play way more than I do, or be incredibly selective.

reKon · Jul 12, 2018

I prefer to play certain games on the Switch because of the convenience and quick pick up and play ability. Hollow Knight has been the game.

Hu3 · Jul 12, 2018

Braaier said:
Huh

I'm a parent so I absolutely care about portability! Being a parent, portability is a huge selling point for me. No way can I find time to sit in front of a TV and play a game.

It is not for me as I said portability is not a selling point for me I work the whole day get home play with my kids put them to sleep and hop on my office to play some games.

TheMisterManGuy said:
Understandable. But most Switch owners bought the system for the entire point of the console, to take their favorite games with them. In that sense, these ports, even if late and not as pretty still matter to most Switch owners, and are still rather good ports on their own. It also helps that portability isn't a gimmick and is a viable reason to buy these games again, or even over the other versions. On Wii U you had no reason to buy third party games there because you were often missing modes, and suffered from terrible performance for the sake of some tacked on Gamepad gimmicks, but Switch version are actually good ports with all the features that you can take with you.

And I understand that. I am not downplaying the switch or the flexibility that the portability brings. But me I care about fidelity and performance. And if I already played the game on pc at higher frame rate, better visuals etc I wouldn't want to damage that experience with a worse performing counterpart. I played HK on pc finished it and bought it again on the switch because it was identical. I mostly bought the switch for my daughter so she can play Nintendo games but I use it for time to time but the console was mainly bought for Nintendo games.

Hilarious_Bearious · Jul 12, 2018

I'm in the "I can play most of these things cheaper/better elsewhere and don't care about portability" camp... But Switch is definitely owning me for Q3 with the M+R DLC and Octopath Traveller. My wife is picking up my copy of Octopath Traveller on her way home from work. I'm so hyped ><

The strangest thing is grabbing me for Indies on Switch though... No fan noise. I can play my Switch without the background hum I get from my PC/PS4. I'll pay the Nintendo Tax on Hollow Knight purely so I can play it with no fan noise. Is that weird?

DigitalOp · Jul 12, 2018

Brock Reiher said:
I think that second point is why people ate clarifying with "if you own another console"

and thats fine. The thread is about having alot to play on Switch. If people have played these games, it doesnt take away from someone who hasn't yet.

Nintendo has alot of strong releases already for a 2 year old system. Old or not, they werent known to have these types of games on the last 2 systems they had on market.

Braaier · Jul 12, 2018

Hu3 said:
It is not for me as I said portability is not a selling point for me I work the whole day get home play with my kids put them to sleep and hop on my office to play some games.

And I understand that. I am not downplaying the switch or the flexibility that the portability brings. But me I care about fidelity and performance. And if I already played the game on pc at higher frame rate, better visuals etc I wouldn't want to damage that experience with a worse performing counterpart. I played HK on pc finished it and bought it again on the switch because it was identical. I mostly bought the switch for my daughter so she can play Nintendo games but I use it for time to time but the console was mainly bought for Nintendo games.

Gotcha! My wife would get annoyed if I took over the TV after putting the boys to sleep. So when I find ten, fifteen minutes I can easily pull out the switch and play. My Xbox one I bought a couple of months ago has like two hours into it. Wish I could find more time to play Switch is perfect for me

jariw · Jul 12, 2018

GalvoAg said:
I mean you basically just buy everything that comes out on the Switch, anybody can do that for any console and say the lineup is healthy.

No. There are around 850 Switch titles currently, and let's say the average price of a game is $20, it becomes too much money for most people to buy all games.

The point is that everyone CAN'T afford all games for any of the current consoles. If everyone would have the money to buy all consoles and all games, threads like this wouldn't derail into system wars, there wouldn't be any price discussions, etc.

goldenpp73 · Jul 12, 2018

TheRulingRing said:
Really? Late releases of multiplats and indies?

So Nintendo's somehow killing it with this lineup, yet the same people will say Xbox has no games...

Xbox has plenty of games, just no exclusives, Switch has plenty of games which also include exclusives. Funny how that works out in terms of perception. I bought an Xbox one X because I wanted to play Spyro on the highest powered HW it will launch on but hardly feel compelled to even hook it up just yet. At least 2019 looks exciting for the thing but come on.

Einreich · Jul 12, 2018

Big line-up, but no big hit.

Gotta play Octopath tomorrow.

Deleted member 2145 · Jul 12, 2018

Hilarious_Bearious said:
I'm in the "I can play most of these things cheaper/better elsewhere and don't care about portability" camp... But Switch is definitely owning me for Q3 with the M+R DLC and Octopath Traveller. My wife is picking up my copy of Octopath Traveller on her way home from work. I'm so hyped ><

The strangest thing is grabbing me for Indies on Switch though... No fan noise. I can play my Switch without the background hum I get from my PC/PS4. I'll pay the Nintendo Tax on Hollow Knight purely so I can play it with no fan noise. Is that weird?

you're in luck, there is no Switch tax for Hollow Knight, it's the same $15 as it is on Steam

I think you can even pay less on Switch if you get it from a different region

Dizagaox · Jul 12, 2018

It depends if you hold stock in ports. My 2-in-1 laptop runs some of these games better than the Switch ports, so I don't care too much for them myself.

Deleted member 249 · Jul 12, 2018

WordsintheWater said:
Then this thread is dumb in general? Why even make this thread? I don't get what's wrong with someone coming in and commenting on how they feel the Switch isn't killing it for them because there are a bunch of ports in that list. Like how is that bad? For me it's killing it, but for other's it isn't, them making a comment like that bothering you is more of an issue than the comment. It's pretty obvious to see why other's think there's a drought, it's not hard to see at all. Should the whole thread be filled with, "Yeah, it's killing it", there's a lot of negativity on this board, but there's also a lot of people starting something out of nothing, the posters comment who started this whole argument was a comment of absolutely no value except to stir some crap up that shouldn't have been stirred in the first place, as people viewing the lineup to be dry shouldn't be controversial. And this is coming from someone who thinks it's killing it.

My friend, as you pointed out, this is a discussion board. If someone posts something, they do so with the intent of discussing it, and me posting something, and then attempting to have a discussion with someone else whom I may agree or disagree with, isn't exactly outside the parameters of what a discussion board is supposed to be like. That doesn't mean the disagreement bothers me, it just means I am discussing things on a discussion board. In this instance, as I am sure you noticed, me and Bruceleeroy had a perfectly civil discussion about our disagreements on the topic, and we moved on, which in an ideal wold is how all disagreements would be handled.
As for why I specifically responded to Bruceleeroy out of however many 100+ posters have posted in here, the answer is simple: I know from previous discussions that he's a chill person, and that it is possible to have a proper level headed discussion with him, even in situations where him and I may be on totally opposite ends of the spectrum. Sure enough, we managed to have a pretty amicable talk, lol.

Bruceleeroy said:
Yeah and I guess we both do still agree that there is plenty to play on the Switch right now which is really the whole point of the thread.

Yup! Between Hollow Knight from a few weeks ago, and Octopath tonight, plus me having moved my Fortnite playing to Switch, as well as regular dips back into BotW and Skyrim, my Switch has seen steady usage for the last few weeks (as has the PS4, since I'm cleaning up GoW, and also trying to knock out some of my backlog).

blacktout said:
Seriously, I just got Mario + Rabbid with the DK expansion, Hollow Knight, and Mario Tennis last month, and now I have Octopath Traveler and Captain Toad arriving tomorrow. I want to get the Octo Expansion too, but there's no reason to right now because it would just add to the indecision that comes with having too much choice, And that's not to mention I still have a bunch of games from last year that I want to return to.

Anyone who thinks this is a drought must play way more than I do, or be incredibly selective.

Yeah, I have a bit of a ridiculous backlog on Switch, not helped by the fact that most of the times I switch it on, I boot up Skyrim or BotW...

Dizagaox · Jul 12, 2018

*Guaraná said:
If ou care about performance and not portability, then maybe the Switch is not for you.

I think the Switch's portable popularity is exaggerated greatly. I'm willing to bet 80%+ of customers never take it out the dock, nevermind around the house. It's a vocal minority that try to perpetuate it's a portal console because otherwise there's no USP beyond the software.

hydrophilic attack · Jul 12, 2018

Dardan Sandiego said:
The "if you own another system" posts are as amusing as they are predictable.

are you saying they are very amusing but very predictable or are you saying they are not amusing but quite unpredictable?

srtrestre · Jul 12, 2018

Yup. My Switch backlog is ridiculous this very second...

...and then Octopath Traveler and Captain Toad come out tomorrow. Good problem to have, though!

krlitros87 · Jul 12, 2018

yuoke said:
If you don't have one of the other big two or pc, and didn't have a wii u, that's a great lineup.

Why?
I own all consoles (Switch, pro and X) + WiiU and I think is a great lineup. And it'll be even better in the next months.

WhiskerFrisker · Jul 12, 2018

Dardan Sandiego said:
Dude simply listed some cool, critically acclaimed games. But I guess every thread is now an invitation to systemwar dickwave.

So your issue wasn't that people pretended those were all new games, which nobody did, but the premise of the thread itself and that OP called the Switch lineup amazing?

I hope you'll find the strength to forgive him.

I guess so, yes. I mean, my most played game this year on my Switch is Fallout Shelter, a game that came out 3 weeks ago for Switch but was available since 2015. I just don't see how the line up is killing it. It's not terrible but it's not amazing either.

Deleted member 8593 · Jul 12, 2018

Dizagaox said:
I think the Switch's portable popularity is exaggerated greatly. I'm willing to bet 80%+ of customers never take it out the dock, nevermind around the house. It's a vocal minority that try to perpetuate it's a portal console because otherwise there's no USP beyond the software.

henhowc · Jul 12, 2018

if you only own a switch or don't mind double-dipping you living the high life.

otherwise its dog days of summer as usual :[

Deleted member 925 · Jul 12, 2018

Usyren said:
Uh I guess it's a great for people that only own a Switch and no other platform. Only thing on that list that I have somewhat interest in and don't already own is Octopath Traveller, and I'm just going to wait for that to go on sale. For me the lineup is rather weak...
I'll be waiting until Smash/Pokemon are released to buy my next Switch game which isn't until the end of the year. So I can't say they're killing it. :|

I own a PS4 and Xbox and I haven't played a lot of these other games, so the rule doesn't apply to everyone.

But whatever works to discredit that the Switch is getting games, sure.

Ridley327 · Jul 12, 2018

Dizagaox said:
I think the Switch's portable popularity is exaggerated greatly. I'm willing to bet 80%+ of customers never take it out the dock, nevermind around the house. It's a vocal minority that try to perpetuate it's a portal console because otherwise there's no USP beyond the software.

It's pretty much 50/50.

Deleted member 249 · Jul 12, 2018

Dizagaox said:
I think the Switch's portable popularity is exaggerated greatly. I'm willing to bet 80%+ of customers never take it out the dock, nevermind around the house. It's a vocal minority that try to perpetuate it's a portal console because otherwise there's no USP beyond the software.

Nintendo's own stats prove portable play is more popular than docked play, so it seems to me like you have lost your bet.

Servbot24 · Jul 12, 2018

If Switch is your only console and you skipped Wii U it's pretty good

ClickyCal' · Jul 12, 2018

Phantom Thief said:
Nintendo's own stats prove portable play is more popular than docked play, so it seems to me like you have lost your bet.

I thought it was 50/50.

MP! · Jul 12, 2018

I can't beat them fast enough!

I have a Wii U and a PS4 and I'm surprised by how much there is to play on switch. Especially if I go back an look at my wish list and start plucking titles off of there as well.

Dizagaox · Jul 12, 2018

Phantom Thief said:
Nintendo's own stats

Please forgive me for ignoring the rest of your comment.

Braaier · Jul 12, 2018

Dizagaox said:
Please forgive me for ignoring the rest of your comment.

OH yeah let's just go off the info you pulled out of the air. Sure thing bud

WordsintheWater · Jul 12, 2018

Phantom Thief said:
My friend, as you pointed out, this is a discussion board. If someone posts something, they do so with the intent of discussing it, and me posting something, and then attempting to have a discussion with someone else whom I may agree or disagree with, isn't exactly outside the parameters of what a discussion board is supposed to be like. That doesn't mean the disagreement bothers me, it just means I am discussing things on a discussion board. In this instance, as I am sure you noticed, me and Bruceleeroy had a perfectly civil discussion about our disagreements on the topic, and we moved on, which in an ideal wold is how all disagreements would be handled.
As for why I specifically responded to Bruceleeroy out of however many 100+ posters have posted in here, the answer is simple: I know from previous discussions that he's a chill person, and that it is possible to have a proper level headed discussion with him, even in situations where him and I may be on totally opposite ends of the spectrum. Sure enough, we managed to have a pretty amicable talk, lol.

That's fair, but I'm confused, didn't you agree that Brucceleeroy's comment was useless a few pages back. I'm glad you actually ended up having a discussion later instead of writing off comments like that, like your original post came off as.

Dizagaox · Jul 12, 2018

Nintendo could be pulling that figure out of their ass. Again, pushing the portability narrative is #marketing101. How else do you promote the hardware? There is no other truly unique USP.

Deleted member 249 · Jul 12, 2018

WordsintheWater said:
That's fair, but I'm confused, didn't you agree that Brucceleeroy's comment was useless a few pages back. I'm glad you actually ended up having a discussion later instead of writing off comments like that, like your original post came off as.

I quoted a comment in response to his own, but the part I was specifically directing at him was the one where the inconsistency of not counting ports as part of an overall lineup was pointed out.

Dizagaox said:
Please forgive me for ignoring the rest of your comment.

You're right, Nintendo wouldn't know how their system is used by their users. We'll go with your totally unfounded speculation instead.

Maxina · Jul 12, 2018

Ys8, Hollow Knight, and Octopath Traveler will keep me busy for the rest of the month, and up until the release of MHGU next month. So far a great summer for me.

Invisible Cities · Jul 12, 2018

I like just playing at home with the Switch in my lap. "Mobile" but not exactly out in the world. It's a nice way to give the big TV to my family....

Deleted member 8593 · Jul 12, 2018

Dizagaox said:
Nintendo could be pulling that figure out of their ass. Again, pushing the portability narrative is #marketing101. How else do you promote the hardware? There is no other truly unique USP.

You really might be unto something here!

Poimandres · Jul 12, 2018

Using the same listing style as this thread (multi plats, ports and late releases count) almost every console is "killing it" all the time. The Xbox One cops some flack for its game lineup for instance, but it's never less than robust taking all releases into account.

Ridley327 · Jul 12, 2018

Dizagaox said:
Nintendo could be pulling that figure out of their ass. Again, pushing the portability narrative is #marketing101. How else do you promote the hardware? There is no other truly unique USP.

If you bothered to read the link I provided, which I'll put right here again, they go into all the various telemetry points they use to determine that number. It even mentions they grab it from people who have created online accounts, which would suggest that those are the more hardcore users to begin with.

WordsintheWater · Jul 12, 2018

Phantom Thief said:
I quoted a comment in response to his own, but the part I was specifically directing at him was the one where the inconsistency of not counting ports as part of an overall lineup was pointed out.

You're right, Nintendo wouldn't know how their system is used by their users. We'll go with your totally unfounded speculation instead.

Understood, then my bad, it wasn't clear what you were going for.

Switch is killing it this Summer with games

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