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SoraanTribal

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As someone who is looking forward to the game so much... This is hard to hear especially since I'm gay. Not sure what to do now tbh.
 

Hours Left

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SE should partner up with a LGBT+ charity in Japan and donate proceeds from all DQ music sales to it.

Make his legacy help the very people that he hates. That's how you get even with bigots.
 
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User Banned (Permanent): Homophobia
Ok I am not following. In this forum if you are anti gay you are piece of shit ? I didn't know this is a gay community form lol

Everyone is intited to his opinion. Why we are cussing the dude for being anti gay exactly ? .

If we factor religion , by default 99% of the Muslims are all anti gay based on religion alone.
I am not a gay supporter. Does that mean i am a piece of shit for that ? Lol
 

Wazzy

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Ok I am not following. In this forum if you are anti gay you are piece of shit ? I didn't know this is a gay community form lol

Everyone is intited to his opinion. Why we are cussing the dude for being anti gay exactly ? .

If we factor religion , by default 99% of the Muslims are all anti gay based on religion alone.
I am not a gay supporter. Does that mean i am a piece of shit for that ? Lol
Yes you are a piece of shit.

Next troll.
 

Zeroro

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Oct 27, 2017
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I was gonna finally buy my first DQ game this year, but I guess not, lmao. What a hack.
 

1000% H

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Ok I am not following. In this forum if you are anti gay you are piece of shit ? I didn't know this is a gay community form lol

Everyone is intited to his opinion. Why we are cussing the dude for being anti gay exactly ? .

If we factor religion , by default 99% of the Muslims are all anti gay based on religion alone.
I am not a gay supporter. Does that mean i am a piece of shit for that ? Lol
Yes, absolutely, 1000%.
 

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Ok I am not following. In this forum if you are anti gay you are piece of shit ? I didn't know this is a gay community form lol

Everyone is intited to his opinion. Why we are cussing the dude for being anti gay exactly ? .

If we factor religion , by default 99% of the Muslims are all anti gay based on religion alone.
I am not a gay supporter. Does that mean i am a piece of shit for that ? Lol
That's got to be the easiest ban ever
 

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Ok I am not following. In this forum if you are anti gay you are piece of shit ? I didn't know this is a gay community form lol

Everyone is intited to his opinion. Why we are cussing the dude for being anti gay exactly ? .

If we factor religion , by default 99% of the Muslims are all anti gay based on religion alone.
I am not a gay supporter. Does that mean i am a piece of shit for that ? Lol
Hey, fuck you! You don't know how it is to leave in fear of who you are, that you'll never be accepted by your friends and family, that you don't feel like yourself in your own fucking home and I bet you also don't know how it feels for lifelong friends to deny you and your right to be yourself. If you weren't permabanned I'd say shut the fuck up but it seems like you're already doing that, unless this is some coward's alt.
 

Isayas

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I just hope there is someone like similar to him in terms of style in making DQ games. I really love his OST and I find him to be the G.O.A.T video game composer. He is getting up there in age anyways. What I don't like about him is just hating us western JRPG fans and not giving the go ahead for the western release to have orchestrated music. This is where I think FF dwells over DQ here. They go with the western market.
 

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His "opinion" is that it's funny when people like me kill ourselves.

Fuck this guy. I hope he suffers.
Well I'd never ever want that to happen, you are a real charming person from me seeing your posts in the Smash thread. (not saying you were going to but just wanted to point out you're awesome)
 

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I just hope there is someone like similar to him in terms of style in making DQ games. I really love his OST and I find him to be the G.O.A.T video game composer. He is getting up there in age anyways. What I don't like about him is just hating us western JRPG fans and not giving the go ahead for the western release to have orchestrated music. This is where I think FF dwells over DQ here. They go with the western market.

You don't get DQ music without MIDI because of him. And while Sugiyama music always will be iconic, many people can replace him. Japan has many talented composers to do it inspired by it, including into Square Enix or freelancers.
 

cw_sasuke

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Ok I am not following. In this forum if you are anti gay you are piece of shit ? I didn't know this is a gay community form lol

Everyone is intited to his opinion. Why we are cussing the dude for being anti gay exactly ? .

If we factor religion , by default 99% of the Muslims are all anti gay based on religion alone.
I am not a gay supporter. Does that mean i am a piece of shit for that ? Lol
Wow.
 

Clov

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Well I'd never ever want that to happen, you are a real charming person from me seeing your posts in the Smash thread. (not saying you were going to but just wanted to point out you're awesome)

Well, thank you!

I'm glad that as a whole, this forum's pretty LGBT friendly. There's some bad apples here and there, but at least (as we can see in this thread) they get dealt with!
 
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Ok I am not following. In this forum if you are anti gay you are piece of shit ? I didn't know this is a gay community form lol

Everyone is intited to his opinion. Why we are cussing the dude for being anti gay exactly ? .

If we factor religion , by default 99% of the Muslims are all anti gay based on religion alone.
I am not a gay supporter. Does that mean i am a piece of shit for that ? Lol

Yes
 

Zaeia

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If it helps, none of that hateful shit actually makes it into the game itself. One of the playable party members is even a respectfully written, probably gay guy.

Reading this made me die inside a bit, especially the "あたし" (atashi) part and calling the protagonist darling.
I mean why even do that. This goes right along with the misconception in Japan that all gay men are "オネエ" (one) or "おかま" (okama). I am so excited for the game, but at the same time, now is not the time to let consumerism overrun humanism. I am considering a no-buy.
 

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Reading this made me die inside a bit, especially the "あたし" (atashi) part and calling the protagonist darling.
I mean why even do that. This goes right along with the misconception in Japan that all gay men are "オネエ" (one) or "おかま" (okama). I am so excited for the game, but at the same time, now is not the time to let consumerism overrun humanism. I am considering a no-buy.

I mean, sure, but gay men (or straight) can be feminine. It's not some thing uncommon. Don't really see a problem here with Silvia.
 

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I mean, yes, his views are despicable but some people in this thread wish him suffering and death... Be better and don't give him a platform for his views instead of wishing upon him what he (presumably) whishes upon members of the LGBT community. No reason to wish someone death and agony.
 

Terror-Billy

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I had no idea he was a steaming pile of shit. I've always admired the guy's work but to hell with him. I bought a Switch for DQ XI, but ain't buying shit as a personal boycott. Fuck this guy.

Well, thank you!

I'm glad that as a whole, this forum's pretty LGBT friendly. There's some bad apples here and there, but at least (as we can see in this thread) they get dealt with!
You are super cool and don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

Reading this made me die inside a bit, especially the "あたし" (atashi) part and calling the protagonist darling.
I'm just going to avatar quote myself, for the audience out there.
 
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Well, thank you!

I'm glad that as a whole, this forum's pretty LGBT friendly. There's some bad apples here and there, but at least (as we can see in this thread) they get dealt with!

I stick with ERA because of how good they are with the LGBT community and in general banning terrible people like the one that posted earlier in this thread.

Also anyone with an Astolfo avatar is cool. :p
 

ASaiyan

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Well, thank you!

I'm glad that as a whole, this forum's pretty LGBT friendly. There's some bad apples here and there, but at least (as we can see in this thread) they get dealt with!
Everyone is welcome here :). Except for those who can't handle the idea of welcoming others, like our man Mr. Sugiyama.
 

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The woman, Mio Sugita, is even a bigger scumbag. Placing blame on rape victims and is a comfort women denier who threatened to blow up monuments dedicated to them.

I guess Sugiyama only surrounds himself by the best people.
 
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Sylvia is definitely exaggeratedly stereotyped a bit for comedy's sake. He's still an actual good character but yeah. From Western sensibilities he's actually probably closer to a transexual than a homosexual what with 'his heart being a woman' and all that. But with the way okama stereotypes in Japan work who knows what the actual aim is. He'll probably be toned down for the English release anyway.

Anyway, I know the topic is about Sugiyama but watching the video made me think more ill of the woman speaking. Sugiyama was basically just nodding along 90% of the time
 

Clov

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I had no idea he was a steaming pile of shit. I've always admired the guy's work but to hell with him. I bought a Switch for DQ XI, but ain't buying shit as a personal boycott. Fuck this guy.


You are super cool and don't let anyone tell you otherwise!


I'm just going to avatar quote myself, for the audience out there.


Can confirm Clov is super cool. Met up with them when I was in Tokyo. Had a good time! Don't let a jackass like Sugiyama get you down!

I stick with ERA because of how good they are with the LGBT community and in general banning terrible people like the one that posted earlier in this thread.

Also anyone with an Astolfo avatar is cool. :p

Everyone is welcome here :). Except for those who can't handle the idea of welcoming others, like our man Mr. Sugiyama.

Thanks! Feeling really flattered right now! :)
 

TLZ

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User banned (1 week): Downplaying homophobia as just an opinion, long history of prior infractions
It's his opinion. Doesn't mean we have the green light to abuse him.
 

Zolbrod

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Reading this made me die inside a bit, especially the "あたし" (atashi) part and calling the protagonist darling.
I mean why even do that. This goes right along with the misconception in Japan that all gay men are "オネエ" (one) or "おかま" (okama). I am so excited for the game, but at the same time, now is not the time to let consumerism overrun humanism. I am considering a no-buy.

Having just finished the game recently, I can say I was surprised at how they treat him, in a good way.
Yes, he talks in an effeminate way, but the game doesn't make a point of it. He's never ridiculed, and he doesn't hit on anyone (so it's not even clear what his sexual preference is).
I was constantly expecting some misplaced attempt at humor at his expense, but it never happened, which is probably about as progressive as a Japanese game can get.
 

Death Penalty

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's his opinion. Doesn't mean we have the green light to abuse him.
Laughing at the deaths of LBGT folks is not "an opinion". It's being a morally reprehensible person. Worse, he has buckets of influence and uses his money to support heinous things. This isn't thinking vanilla is better than chocolate, this is believing your fellow humans are worthless scum and it is not okay.
 

Raijinto

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Trash human being is trash. Not surprised about this at all. Makes being a DQ fan very difficult though.

It's his opinion. Doesn't mean we have the green light to abuse him.

Is denying war crimes that 100% happened also 'his opinion'? Where do you draw the line here exactly?

Honestly the amount of false equivalency and bizarre defences this man is receiving ITT is kinda shocking to me...
 

Waffle

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It's his opinion. Doesn't mean we have the green light to abuse him.

Not gonna agree with the "opinion" part but even if we were to say let's not "abuse" him, why is it that, that's the only thing you really have to say coming in here? Why don't you also show some compassion towards the people he would rather have dead instead of telling people that they shouldn't abuse him?
 

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His thought? His mentality? Whatever. Doesn't justify people go all barbaric. Hate on the guy, but some of the comments here are over the top. Death and heart stop? Wtf?
"Poor 87 year old Japanese composer with a shitload of money that's a war crime denier and hates LGBT people, stop picking on him!"
 
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