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Nephilim

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,300
Anakin, if one is to understand the great mystery, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic, narrow view of the Jedi

Basically, what you just illustrated is that it's ridiculous to ignore all of the good in this game (A LOT), while only focusing on the one big negative which is being fixed. Indeed, sir.
Suitable quote.
I love Dice games, for a AAA developer there's a lot of heart and knowledge to be found in their titles.
Can't wait to pick up the game tomorrow:)
 

JHoNNy1OoO

Member
Oct 25, 2017
919
Miami, FL
HvV is a clusterfuck of a mode if they continue to put up randoms with zero communication against parties in party chat. Don't get why it's so hard to just have solo players play against other solo players.
 

Doof

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,434
Kentucky
Man, I know it's not canon anymore (and it's questionable if it ever was canon in the first place), but I would buy this immediately if there was KOTOR era stuff. My favorite Star Wars thing ever tbh.
 

DopeyFish

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,800
HvV is a clusterfuck of a mode if they continue to put up randoms with zero communication against parties in party chat. Don't get why it's so hard to just have solo players play against other solo players.
this is also i wish hero hunt would return

one hero/villain against a bunch of thirsty troopers

every man for themselves
 

Arsic

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,730
Any word yet on the best guns in each class yet? I'm really digging the 3 burst in assault, and the A280CFE or whatever for Specialist. Although if there was a one shot sniper I'd go that route along with the off radar when shooting star card to decimate.
 

Nem

Member
Oct 25, 2017
76
I wonder if DICE will do something similar to Faction Rally in D2. Have a weekend event where players can choose between the Rebel Alliance/Resistance or the Empire. Points for each are collected via matches won and the side that pulls through is given a cool collectible or unlockable.

It looks like something like that is coming in the first DLC pack:
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ArkkAngel007

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
5,010
So bar PC, what is the best option between PS4Pro and XbOX?

I'm still not happy with how things turned out, but I'm curious on how they'll move forward and it's good to see a game be given free content updates.
 

Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
30,876
Kotor is so far removed from even the prequels to the point where it doesn't even matter if it's declared canon or not.
 

Deleted member 16452

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
7,276
That must be brand new because I've 11 levels without getting that.

I just noticed I got like 2k more credits than what the match said I earned.

It could be a random challenge or it might be something new, but I definitely got those 2k extra credits after that round was over and I happened to level up in it.
 

A1an

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,341
UK
The gameplay is fun, but I actually like the maps in the first one better.

I liked the original's game modes better too.

This game feels more responsive to me, especially with my slow internet; where the first would lag or hiccup for me.

The blaster fire visuals seem different. I can't tell if I'm hitting my target sometimes. It feels less "solid".

I'm not sure how I feel about classes yet. I feel like I need to pick one early and just stick with it, without experimenting too much with the other classes, due to the grind and limited credit and craft supplies. Weapons and some abilities are tied to classes.

I am having a good time though. The single player, offline stuff is fun. I only played it since yesterday, so still finding my way around it myself. I'll try out star fighter gameplay today.

I loved the first game. I got the season pass for it, but that split the user base.

I wouldn't mind lootbox cosmetics. Or even crystal, craft parts, boost packs if cosmetics doesn't work to keep all DLC maps and modes free.

And this is coming from someone who has felt the pain of getting beat down by payers with juiced up star cards.

Just adjust the grind so it's not ridiculous or virtually unattainable for the rest of us.

Thank you for the feedback, I am getting a refund for my copy and I am going see what its like in a few weeks.

It is a real shame I think, the upgrades should have been like the cards in the first game and you just spend real money on character and weapon skins instead of a season pass if this is how they wanted to cover the costs.
 

nasirum

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,833
Somewhere
Thank you for the feedback, I am getting a refund for my copy and I am going see what its like in a few weeks.

It is a real shame I think, the upgrades should have been like the cards in the first game and you just spend real money on character and weapon skins instead of a season pass if this is how they wanted to cover the costs.

This is a really good idea. Plus, they will likely drop the price after Last Jedi comes out.
 

prag16

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
848
That must be brand new because I've 11 levels without getting that.
I didn't notice if I got anything when I leveled, will have to check later. But I remember a few people saying they got bonuses for leveling yesterday, so it can't be THAT new. Unless it's only for certain levels or something.
 

A1an

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,341
UK
Sometimes. I don't think hero combat is as good but everything else is better, mostly.


Saber heroes need a big buff against infantry. Either more health or sabers should kill all classes in one strike.

Really appreciate your views, mine is being refunded tomorrow and I will see how this unfolds in the coming weeks, It is a shame though this game has ended up like this.

This is a really good idea. Plus, they will likely drop the price after Last Jedi comes out.

I have the Elite Trooper version so if I play it and then trade it in it will cost me £40 (the game was £70 the trade-in is £30) I could buy the normal version and try it out for £10 I suppose but I am going to leave it a couple of weeks, I did try to cancel my pre-order but to get it out in time the order was locked early last week.
 

Deleted member 16452

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
7,276
I didn't notice if I got anything when I leveled, will have to check later. But I remember a few people saying they got bonuses for leveling yesterday, so it can't be THAT new. Unless it's only for certain levels or something.

Yea it could be for certain levels, like 5 10 20 or something, cause I had not noticed that before I got this level.
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
93,315
I like the story, shows how people can rationalize bullshit, and even fight for it.

"The rebellion is built on hate"

While babysitting a giant space laser
 

B00T

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,650
Having a ton of fun in both starfighter and galactic assault so far. Really want to git gud at flying. Game feels as stress free to play as the first game did to me. Every time I'm reminded of the progression though, I feel really bad. It really doesn't feel rewarding at all. It sucks because the game is really fun to play, the atmosphere and music are dead on but every time I'm reminded of the crates I just get meeeeeeeeeh and that really puts me off the game as much as I'm enjoying it.
 

Darth Smurf X

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,038
Hoth, WI
I've heard a bunch of people say they were "bored to tears" playing the first 3 missions of campaign.

Well... I played the first 3 missions this morning before work—what a blast! Maybe I'm biased cuz there's been a lot of ship-to-ship combat so far, and I love what Criterion has done with starships. In fact, Criterion needs a standing ovation for what they've done. Dogfighting is my favorite part of the game from what I've played in the Beta and will probably be my main multiplayer mode, but I digress. The campaign is fun so far and I like the story, the dialogue and the progression of the main character.
 

Luminish

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,508
Denver
Trying to explain it to someone who hasnt been following this whole saga kinda shows how baffling this whole deal is. This is the reason why I hate F2P games, theres always too many currencies and too many odd concepts to unwrap. I just want to play the damn game and get unlocks for the class im playing as. I feel pity for the poor kid to gets this for Christmas or something and has no idea as to how the hell you progress in the game. Its one of my main annoyances with Warframe...I like the game, but the currency system, how you gain new weapons and warframes is labyrinthine at best.

And it's that way by design. The whole point of these confusing systems is to blur what it is you're actually paying for when you're ready to buy in.

Who would ever want to spend $10 for an earlier +15% damage boost that's just going to matched or outdone by everyone else who spends more time or money on the game?

Now who would spend the $10 worth of crafting parts you got from loot crates that you got from crystals that you got from a credit card, on first raising your starcard level enough that you can now spend more crafting parts to get a +15% damage boost.

And they don't even want you to have the goal of getting anything but the ability to stop losing. Avoiding something bad from happening is a much stronger psychological pull than the motivation to gain something good, so every time you die they remind you that maybe that maybe you wouldn't have lost by spending more money.

So with the goal of spending money you get to the store and see the prices and start thinking about what you are getting for your money. It's impossible to workout all the layers of the most awkwardly priced conversions possible to get anything tangible, especially adding in the probability calculations from loot boxes that you can't even calculate because they don't tell you the odds.

But it is easy to valuate is that spending more money at one time results in getting more crystals per dollar. And since that's the only thing you can valuate, that's the main thing that's going to drive your purchase.

Even without the ways it is built to prey on addictive personalities it's still grossly manipulative.

For people with addictive personalities, for a full 10 hours they're purposefully training them on faster than normal intervals to spin the slot machine for the chance at a digital reward, and the dopamine hits that psychologically come with that. So when the challenges dry up, the pace of rewards drops significantly, telling people who have been used to a certain pace of dopamine hits they can only keep up that pace if they spend more money.

And all this uses an insane amount of data to know the exact pace of giving out rewards to maximize addiction.
 

B00T

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,650
Starfighter Assault is just too much fun. My only gripe at the moment is that it's a bit too easy to win as defenders, since hardly anyone on the attack team tries to destroy the objectives, but I'm sure that'll get better once people figure out what to do. Hopefully.

There are so many small touches that really add up, like having to escape the Lucrehulk reactor before the blast doors close:

that's so sick lol.

Yeah, I had noticed that too. I've been top of the leaderboard in my games by virtue of just playing the objectives and getting points dumped on me as a result. Ending games with like, 2-4 eliminations though lol.
 

janusff

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,161
Austin, TX
I would say it would take some time to rightfully judge if the game modes are balanced or not. This is a objective heavy game and everyone is probably still figuring out exactly what to do and how to do it. That said, if you're playing as the battle droids on Kamino, you've got a huge uphill battle to face. Lol
 

GustyGardens

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
946
I played for about 2 hours last night and had a good time with it. During that time, I was pretty flush with crafting parts and credits, which I really thought was going to be an issue after I played the beta and read through the recent complaints. I'm looking forward to putting in some more time with it tonight. I'm hoping the customization stuff comes sooner rather than later.
 

ironcreed

Member
Oct 27, 2017
804
Starfighter Assault is just too much fun. My only gripe at the moment is that it's a bit too easy to win as defenders, since hardly anyone on the attacking team tries to destroy the objectives, but I'm sure that'll get better once people figure out what to do. Hopefully.

There are so many small touches that really add up, like having to escape the Lucrehulk reactor before the blast doors close:


Yeah, the game honestly has it all. Amazing space battles and amazing battles on the ground with storm troopers, rebels, droids and heroes in third or first person and all with a healthy selection of beautiful maps straight out of the gate. Now, think of all the content yet to come that will be added to it. It's going to be a monster of a game. They just need to knock these tweaks out of the park.
 

Mobias

Member
Oct 27, 2017
130
Edinburgh
The really sad thing is with all this fiasco of a launch is that this is simply an amazing game. I've just played it almost solidly for about 5 or 6 hours and its endless fun. Its also I think probably the best looking and sounding game I've played on my PS4 Pro. Maybe you need a 4K HDR TV to appreciate it properly and maybe you don't but it is jaw dropingly good looking and sounding. I was just playing the assault game there where the rebels have to steal an AT-AT on Endor at night during a rain storm and the AT-AT has got these massive search lights on its head. When they're shining through the trees there's all these huge shadows and blinding lights and its just the best use of HDR I've seen so far in any game I've played and its incredibly atmospheric and oddly terrifying.
 

Aesthet1c

Member
Oct 27, 2017
923
The really sad thing is with all this fiasco of a launch is that this is simply an amazing game. I've just played it almost solidly for about 5 or 6 hours and its endless fun. Its also I think probably the best looking and sounding game I've played on my PS4 Pro. Maybe you need a 4K HDR TV to appreciate it properly and maybe you don't but it is jaw dropingly good looking and sounding. I was just playing the assault game there where the rebels have to steal an AT-AT on Endor at night during a rain storm and the AT-AT has got these massive search lights on its head. When they're shining through the trees there's all these huge shadows and blinding lights and its just the best use of HDR I've seen so far in any game I've played and its incredibly atmospheric and oddly terrifying.

Oh man I noticed that too last night. It's so awesome to see those headlights are super blinding. Like I can't see anything behind it when they shine my way. It reminds me of RE7, one of my first HDR games and I went outside and looked at the sun and it hurt my eyes to look at the tv. HDR really is a thing of beauty when done well.
 

Nephilim

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,300
The really sad thing is with all this fiasco of a launch is that this is simply an amazing game. I've just played it almost solidly for about 5 or 6 hours and its endless fun. Its also I think probably the best looking and sounding game I've played on my PS4 Pro. Maybe you need a 4K HDR TV to appreciate it properly and maybe you don't but it is jaw dropingly good looking and sounding. I was just playing the assault game there where the rebels have to steal an AT-AT on Endor at night during a rain storm and the AT-AT has got these massive search lights on its head. When they're shining through the trees there's all these huge shadows and blinding lights and its just the best use of HDR I've seen so far in any game I've played and its incredibly atmospheric and oddly terrifying.
Did you play the beta? Was a bit disappointed there by the graphics and sound maybe coming from Battlefield 1 on the pro, so can you eventually confirm that the visuals have been upgraded since the beta?
Was pretty much my only gripe with the game...
 

ironcreed

Member
Oct 27, 2017
804
The really sad thing is with all this fiasco of a launch is that this is simply an amazing game. I've just played it almost solidly for about 5 or 6 hours and its endless fun. Its also I think probably the best looking and sounding game I've played on my PS4 Pro. Maybe you need a 4K HDR TV to appreciate it properly and maybe you don't but it is jaw dropingly good looking and sounding. I was just playing the assault game there where the rebels have to steal an AT-AT on Endor at night during a rain storm and the AT-AT has got these massive search lights on its head. When they're shining through the trees there's all these huge shadows and blinding lights and its just the best use of HDR I've seen so far in any game I've played and its incredibly atmospheric and oddly terrifying.

Damn, sounds like I need to get on that mode. I have not had the time to try it yet.
 

Aesthet1c

Member
Oct 27, 2017
923
Did you play the beta? Was a bit disappointed there by the graphics and sound maybe coming from Battlefield 1 on the pro, so can you eventually confirm that the visuals have been upgraded since the beta?
Was pretty much my only gripe with the game...

I mean, I can't confirm that the visuals have been tuned or anything, but I had the exact impression of the beta you did and I am in total awe of how good the final game looks.
 

PintSizedSlasher

The Wise Ones
Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,366
The Netherlands
Did you play the beta? Was a bit disappointed there by the graphics and sound maybe coming from Battlefield 1 on the pro, so can you eventually confirm that the visuals have been upgraded since the beta?
Was pretty much my only gripe with the game...

It's definitely a step up from the beta, but it's not quite at the level of Battlefield 1 yet imo.
Big plus is that you can turn off all the "cinematic" effects.