The crap should sell for $10. $20 max. What they're asking for is robbery.
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NPD June 2018 : PS4 Top Selling Current Gen HW, NES #1, PS4, Xbox, Switch Up YoY
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I have become desensitized to GTAV showing up in top 5.
600k new Xbox/PS4 buyers.
Thanks... I thought I missed the numbers :D
About the comparison the launch month doesn't affect it if you compare the same month/year... you are using Switch 1st year for Jan and Feb and 2nd year for the rest.
The same should be used for comparison even if PS4 will be at disvantages due supply issues in first Jan/Feb it will be fair.
Second June for different consoles.
PS2: 694K
Wii: 667K
DS: 593K
GBA: 553K
PS3: 406K
PS4: 370K
Switch: ~320K
XBO: 297K
PSP: 221K
X360: 198K
Xbox: 167K
3DS: 155K
WiiU: 140K
GC: 124K
.....
Vita: 27K
One of those rare months where Wii doesn't have the record for second year. PS2 had had price cut in May and went to beast mode after that for rest of the year.
PS2: 694K
Wii: 667K
DS: 593K
GBA: 553K
PS3: 406K
PS4: 370K
Switch: ~320K
XBO: 297K
PSP: 221K
X360: 198K
Xbox: 167K
3DS: 155K
WiiU: 140K
GC: 124K
.....
Vita: 27K
One of those rare months where Wii doesn't have the record for second year. PS2 had had price cut in May and went to beast mode after that for rest of the year.
Dont think so MGS4 was June 2008. It was 2007 which was when PS3 got its price cut if im not mistaken.
It's MGSIV bump. PS3 released in November 2006 (in US) so June 2008 was its second June.
thats not for you to decide but for the market, if they dont find the price worthy thye wont buy it, same the other way around. capitalism 101.
Not sure how much legs does retailers have to cut prices on their own from the MSRP, but its then weird you dont see Labo price going down despite how much some claims all they do is collect dust on shelves and display
When you are winning in both units and revenue, it does. Its not like the Switch and PS4 have had to slash their prices to get the top spot, something MS habitually does for the Xbox One to get it to reach its sales each month
Xbox nearly doubled their hardware revenue for June YoY, they are doing fine.
Also worth note it was DS lite month. DS was actually selling pretty meh before that, and his big success started after that month.
I'm a customer. So yes it is for me to decide, and myself and many others have decided against it.
And you should know very well how Nintendo thinks every thing they make is too valuable and Jack up the price to nonsensical numbers, no matter how shitty they are (1-2 switch and labo).
For the Robot Kit? Absolutely they're charging too much for one project and a crappy companion game.
For the Variety Kit? You're paying less than $15 per project, about in line with how much craft/DIY kits usually cost.
Retailers can cut the price whenever they want if it's not selling.
They have a $500 midgen console this time, which explains the double in revenue. Doubling revenue does not mean doubling profit
Their service-based products are doing well. I'm sure they are fine in regards to profit too.
Edit: We also don't know how much it costs Microsoft to make their base console these days, it could still be making a decent profit and we don't know if the X is still being made at a loss.
Yeah. That is true too. Rest of 2006 was solid after that for DS and 2007 is when the sales blew up.
Yeah, it has been a banner year for the Xbox One. I think they've done a fantastic job in reversing their trajectory through smart feature additions and attractive hardware revisions, along with pack ins and deals. Their course corrections make me excited for their next console.
It's always nice to see great success on NPD. These threads have been much more enjoyable since MS got their shit together and Nintendo released attractive hardware with good software.
Healthy competition is generally good for us, the consumers, so I'm all for it
And also they were selling Xbox for 199 and they actually have couple relatively new exclusives to bundle and sell with console, compared to last year.
Crash was helping sales too maybe? Who knows. Profit wise I think Microsoft has nothing to worry about. They are doing fine
Exactly. Sony's success is why Microsoft is where they are now. Things could be much worse without competion.
GTAV number 3 on the overall software chart?? Christ. At this rate it's hard to imagine another game ever surpassing it's lifetime sales numbers.
To be fair Uncharted faces a lot more competition than anything on the Nintendo Switch. No Switch game is competing for time against Call of Duty, Madden, etc., or Grand Theft Auto V, a game about to sell 100 million copies.
Every new PS or Xbox comes with a GTAV purchase. It's Wii sports for new gen consoles.
The Xbox One is doing phenomenal numbers this year. PS4 is just doing more phenomenally. This year's market isn't some doing good some doing bad. It's only different magnitudes of good.
So since we just learned that Octopath shipped a million(with digital). Is it possible it has a debut as well as Xenoblade Chronicles 2 if not more?
Keep in mind it did have shortages in the US (it still might even now) so I'm guessing it's going to have a larger than normal digital ratio.
And with Nintendo not sharing digital numbers with NPD we probably won't see the effect of that.
That said, I think it's selling better than XC2 in general, even though that was a holiday release, so yeah it'll be interesting to see how they compare.
I mean, it has physical software in the box too.
Labo's value is debatable, but let's not be daft.
Sure but we are (or were) talking specifically about the hardware revenue doubling. I shed light on why it happened, and once you realize the reasoning it seems like a standard occurrence when compared to last year
They are always selling the Xbox One for a price around that area, I believe it was $229 or lower around the same time last year. When you add a $500 (or $450 on sale) Xbox into this year´s June it offers a huge increase in revenue coming in from hardware when looking at June 2017.
That doesnt mean the hardware PROFIT increased nearly as much, if at all depending on the amount of cuts to the hardware MSRP. Other areas may be profitable but we are talking about hardware revenue.
At the end of the day, Nintendo executives would not have greenlit Labo if they didn't think it would be profitable (and beneficial to the brand in a significant way). So if they were anticipating low sales now, either it's already profitable or they're projecting much bigger sales down the road.
As I said before, comparing Labo sales trends to traditional video game titles doesn't make sense to me -- but I'd love to see a comparison between Labo sales and those of LEGO Mindstorms, because I think that's the closest analogy in the retail market (STEM edutainment at a premium price). That's another product that sits on store shelves 11 months out of the year and yet never gets price cuts. Unfortunately, I don't think we have any LEGO-sales-age members here, unless MatPiscatella has hidden depths he hasn't shared with us before...
That is good to hear or better to read.
You probably can not disclose any numbers, but ratio Xbox One to One X in comparision to PS4/Ps4 Pro are in the same percentage range for the midgen refreshes? Or Xbox One X pushes more hardware in comparision to PS4 Pro?
And what is your opinion will we see midgen upgrades for PS5/Xbox Next?
That Mindstorms comp idea is interesting. I'm going to look into that. We track the Toys category within NPD Entertainment. Thanks for the idea.
Refresh ratios are fairly similar.
I'm forecasting ps5/NeXt in 2020, refreshes I have coming on a 2-3 year cycle. Pending any market disruption that changes things. Which tends to always happen.
Refresh ratios are fairly similar.
I'm forecasting ps5/NeXt in 2020, refreshes I have coming on a 2-3 year cycle. Pending any market disruption that changes things. Which tends to always happen.
The same executives the greenlit the WiiU. Just because they project something, doesn't mean it will come to fruition. Anyhow I certainly don't think there losing that much money on Labo when the main components is cardboard, factoring in Distribution and Marketing.
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This is interesting, but with the alignment of launches, I'm not sure how relevant. For the majority of these machines, the second June would also be after the second Holiday season, which usually means either A) stronger sales due to being a hit or B) weaker sales as the system fails to find a market. Of those, I think only 3DS was a March initial release?
this only makes sense if Switch owners only own a Switch and nothing else.
Its a shame they don't give us numbers anymore. Just PS4 x NS x Xbox expeculation.
Apparently Switch is a secondary platform for so many people. That is, until its software starts selling well. Then all of a sudden all of its owners only own one system, so of course these games on the tumbelweed-laden Switch are selling well!
Yeah people need to accept that the Switch has great hardware and software sales without caveats.
Hey calm down Captain Save A Switch, I was making a point and Jaded made a great point right back. The fact that there are many people who own the Switch in addition to an Xbox/PS4/PC, and that's very fair. No one's arguing here.
The sad thing is I see this type of logic also from a few people who are supposedly higher up on the food chain, at least on this site, and so I think it is possibly a wide spread thing at least in certain circles in the (Western) industry.
Their basic world view is - third party games don't sell well on Nintendo platforms. Game x that wouldn't have done well given the circumstances on any platform = proof this is the case on the Switch as well. Any game y doing well = there are reasons it did well and they do not apply to 3rd party games generally...
It's great to see software from just about everyone selling well. Great times for the industry right now.
