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Dama

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God even the thumbnail looks smarmy. He's a bad actor, a bad liar and he got what he deserved. I'm a journalist by education (bachelor's in journalism with an emphasis on broadcasting though I left the industry because news is soul crushing) and this shit gets you blacklisted in the real world on a good day.

No, him and his family getting threats over a a plagiarist video game review is not what he deserved.
 

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Just sounds to me like he's plagiarizing so much that it has become second nature to him.

You can leave now, thanks.
 

MrOblong

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Do we believe him that his friends and family received abuse and threats?

I'm just saying it sounds familiar, and wondering if he borrowed that part from someone else's Scandal Response video that he watched on YouTube as research for making his own...
 
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"The bottom line is that, what happened with the Dead Cells review was not at all intentional."

WTF. You copied half of it almost word for word and even ordered it the same way.

How is that not intentional?
 

Kyle Cross

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He didn't admit to anything. He only mentioned in depth, sort off, with the FIFA review. He is coming off like the victim as well. Saying in the end "Living nightmare" about the whole situation. How about the person you snatched the review from? What a pointless video.
Having the internet hate mob harassing you and your family is a living nightmare.
 

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Do we believe him that his friends and family received abuse and threats?

I'm just saying it sounds familiar, and wondering if he borrowed that part from someone else's Scandal Response video that he watched on YouTube as research for making his own...
That was probably the only true thing in his lame video, only because thats how gamers react.
 

TwoDelay

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it's a catchphrase used by el Chavo (a character in a mexican Sitcom called "El Chavo del 8", "The Kid from the [apartment] 8" ). "Fue sin querer queriendo", "I didn't intended to do it". While the character actually used it to denote that whatever happened it was really accidental, it's commonly used now to denote someone doing something out of stupidity and lacking the ability to face the consequences.
Thank you
 

Axe

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It's not that I disagree with these points — I do agree, to a degree.

Let me see if I can sort through my feelings on this. I might be wrong but I'd like to share this perspective anyway, if you'll hear me.

I'm not trying to defend plagiarism as a concept or an offense. I work as a freelance writer. I have BEEN plagiarized — quite literally multiple times. It's terrible. I can't tell you how many times a "social media influencer" like @FATJEW has stolen my work or my peers' work, and passed it off as his own to land brand deals or other benefits to gain fame. I agree that plagiarism should result in punishment and probably even firing. I don't think that this specific example should brand Filip as a "do not hire" forever, even though it probably will.

What frustrates me, I think, is that I also see this as an example of companies/corporations "covering their ass" at the expense of the individual person. Was all of Filip's work garbage? Did he have a history of plagiarizing? Do his 'good' works not count for anything, but only his 'bad' one does? Games journalism doesn't pay nearly well enough for this kind of beating.

This comparison is a bit of stretch but this feels somewhat similar to Disney and James Gunn, except that unlike Gunn, we the audience don't have the same level of affection for Filip's work as we do Gunn's.

It annoys me that someone like Logan Paul will be able to weasel his way back into the public 'good' easier than someone like Filip, despite what I think is a worse offense (and more of a pathological tendency, as well), because he's got a larger audience.

In other words, I don't feel that these "crimes," if you will, are punished evenly or justly — and when punishments ARE meted out, they can look like the kind of 'mob mentality' where the punishment is disproportionate. Part of my handwringing is also that, unless you are famous like Logan Paul or James Gunn, there's no real pathway established toward redemption. The first page of Filip's google results will probably always be this.

It is possible, I think, to condemn plagiarism and Filip's offense without wishing this results in the permanent end to his career. And/or to have a bit of sympathy for the guilty party, as much as we do for the victims.
If a writer cannot even write their own material, they are utterly worthless within the profession. Plagiarising other work also exposes liability to all of the people who work with such a person. Everyone knows the risks, they know its wrong, and Filip chose to do it anyway.

He absolutely deserves to be branded as a plagiarist and permanently blacklisted from the field, if only so no other person or organisation runs the risk of being caught up in his deceit ever again. He's also proven he is incapable at literally the most basic aspect of his job.
 

VeePs

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Do we believe him that his friends and family received abuse and threats?

I remember well over a decade ago, Killzone came out. I think Gamespot or IGN gave it a 6.8 and they received death threats from people who hadn't even played the game! Just pure anger.

Now 14 years or so later, the gamer landscape hasn't improved. People leak phone numbers/family/facebooks, people call the SWAT to your house, people still send death threats, etc.

It's probably true man.
 

ErrorJustin

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It is completely plausible to me that he may have subconsciously borrowed, or perhaps structured his review a certain way after watching other views. Nobody's brain is perfect and sometimes we think "our" ideas are not in fact our own. That this was Filip's first offense (I don't know about the FIFA review being plagiarized and seems a little bit of a stretch to my eyes) makes it a bit more sad, to me.

Not interested in letting this narrative take hold. Even as speculation. I'm convinced almost no one has actually looked at the scripts side by side:

Boomstick: Dead Cells takes the progression of a metroidvania and integrates it into this procedurally generated action roguelite that has you slowly chipping away at its steep difficulty.

Filip: Dead Cells is simple; it takes the progression system of a Metroidvania and transforms it into a procedurally generated action roguelite that has you chipping away at its steep but fair difficulty.

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Boomstick: Also in place is a mutation system that has you pick from various buffs that can enhance and alter your abilities but choose wisely between levels because you can only take so many.

Filip: Also in place is a mutation system that lets you choose from various buffs that enhance and alter your abilities. The mutations you pick can ultimately be the determining factor between a victorious run, or a one-way ticket back to the beginning.

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Boomstick: In Dead Cells you'll need to kill your way through a labyrinth of levels, all punctuated by boss encounters


Filip: In Dead Cells, you'll need to fight your way through an ever-changing labyrinth of levels which are all punctuated by tense, but rewarding boss fights.

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Boomstick: Dead Cells figures out an intriguing way to have your roguelite and metroidvania experience all in one by focusing on your failures and urging you to try something new the next time.

Filip: Dead Cells finds an engaging way to have your Metroidvania and roguelite experience all in one by focusing on your failures and urging you to try something new the next time.

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There are more.
 

Hercule

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I can't even with this. Just 72 hours earlier, the same guy said this crap:



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I legitimate don't know Colin but I have been listening to Kinda Funny for the last 3 weeks and to be fair. They also asked Filip to be a guest after heavily criticizing him. Can't blame them for it, I think a lot of people want to know the story of Filip personally and not in the way of some youtube vid.
 
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Not interested in letting this narrative take hold. Even as speculation. I'm convinced almost no one has actually looked at the scripts side by side:

Boomstick: Dead Cells takes the progression of a metroidvania and integrates it into this procedurally generated action roguelite that has you slowly chipping away at its steep difficulty.

Filip: Dead Cells is simple; it takes the progression system of a Metroidvania and transforms it into a procedurally generated action roguelite that has you chipping away at its steep but fair difficulty.

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Boomstick: Also in place is a mutation system that has you pick from various buffs that can enhance and alter your abilities but choose wisely between levels because you can only take so many.

Filip: Also in place is a mutation system that lets you choose from various buffs that enhance and alter your abilities. The mutations you pick can ultimately be the determining factor between a victorious run, or a one-way ticket back to the beginning.

___

Boomstick: In Dead Cells you'll need to kill your way through a labyrinth of levels, all punctuated by boss encounters


Filip: In Dead Cells, you'll need to fight your way through an ever-changing labyrinth of levels which are all punctuated by tense, but rewarding boss fights.

___

Boomstick: Dead Cells figures out an intriguing way to have your roguelite and metroidvania experience all in one by focusing on your failures and urging you to try something new the next time.

Filip: Dead Cells finds an engaging way to have your Metroidvania and roguelite experience all in one by focusing on your failures and urging you to try something new the next time.

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There are more.

It's calculated plagiarism, nothing less. Blind Freddy can see this
 

xrnzaaas

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Yep you should remove the youtube clip from the OP since there's a transcript, no reason to give him free views. Or at least you can steal his clip and post it elsewhere. ;)
 

Bananastand

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I legitimate don't know Colin but I have been listening to Kinda Funny for the last 3 weeks and to be fair. They also asked Filip to be a guest after heavily criticizing him. Can't blame them for it, I think a lot of people want to know the story of Filip personally and not in the way of some youtube vid.
I love shitting on Colin as much as the next guy but I'm sure plenty of people would like to talk to this guy even if they hate what he did.

Seeing as how Colin is a poor interviewer Filip probably should go on his show so he can promote himself even more now.
 

GamerDude

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I'm not going to get into my views of Colin as a person (I personally have no issues with him), but I love his videogame coverage. Some of the best out there. It disappoints me that discussing his content in more depth is not allowed here.

Also, Jason Schreier is awesome. Best videogames journalist for sure!
 

LinkStrikesBack

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"The bottom line is that, what happened with the Dead Cells review was not at all intentional."

"After all, I never intended to be caught"

Nah, you knew what you were doing.

Hate the idiots on the internet that also take this as a chance to dox and harass someone though. Knock that shit off, they lost their job. That was the appropriate punishment and should be the end of it.
 

PogiJones

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Not interested in letting this narrative take hold. Even as speculation. I'm convinced almost no one has actually looked at the scripts side by side:

Boomstick: Dead Cells takes the progression of a metroidvania and integrates it into this procedurally generated action roguelite that has you slowly chipping away at its steep difficulty.

Filip: Dead Cells is simple; it takes the progression system of a Metroidvania and transforms it into a procedurally generated action roguelite that has you chipping away at its steep but fair difficulty.

___

Boomstick: Also in place is a mutation system that has you pick from various buffs that can enhance and alter your abilities but choose wisely between levels because you can only take so many.

Filip: Also in place is a mutation system that lets you choose from various buffs that enhance and alter your abilities. The mutations you pick can ultimately be the determining factor between a victorious run, or a one-way ticket back to the beginning.

___

Boomstick: In Dead Cells you'll need to kill your way through a labyrinth of levels, all punctuated by boss encounters


Filip: In Dead Cells, you'll need to fight your way through an ever-changing labyrinth of levels which are all punctuated by tense, but rewarding boss fights.

___

Boomstick: Dead Cells figures out an intriguing way to have your roguelite and metroidvania experience all in one by focusing on your failures and urging you to try something new the next time.

Filip: Dead Cells finds an engaging way to have your Metroidvania and roguelite experience all in one by focusing on your failures and urging you to try something new the next time.

___

There are more.
Yeah, he absolutely plagiarized, and deserved to be fired.

That being said, I know off the top of my head at least one place where your transcript is inaccurate (Filip ends his review with something like "focusing on your failures and urging you to try something new when you do fail."), which calls into question the accuracy of the rest of your transcript.

Still, just watching the original comparison video is enough to see he plagiarized it pretty wholesale.
 

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Some people just seem incapable of saying "I'm sorry, I fucked up here." instead of doubling down and then even trying to blame others because their fuck up got busted.
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lol
 

JoeNut

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he Hasn't explained why he did copy it though, he's just taken responsibility for it? Seems odd. At least give an explanation.
That being said, people targeting his family and stuff are fucking losers.
 

ErrorJustin

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Yeah, he absolutely plagiarized, and deserved to be fired.

That being said, I know off the top of my head at least one place where your transcript is inaccurate (Filip ends his review with something like "focusing on your failures and urging you to try something new when you do fail."), which calls into question the accuracy of the rest of your transcript.

Mine wasn't a transcript of Filip's review VO as it published - it was the original video review script. Small ad-libs commonly happen in the VO recording process. But your point is taken - it isn't an exact 1:1 copy of Filip's video review transcript as it published.

Regardless, it's an unbroken nearly 20 word segment with verbatim matching text.
 
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I really wonder why he thought he could get away with it in this age. He had a good job, moved recently and people liked his show. It's so odd.

And his 'response' was pathetic, playing the victim card to deflect the blame. Yeah it's horrible about the death threats, but they don't happen if you don't plagiarise? It's a direct chain of events.
 

jkk411

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I actually believe there was a path for him to take here that might have worked. If he unequivocally owned the mistake, explained that it came from a place of self doubt...Basically, if he fell on his sword, I think some people might have been willing to come around. He went with a decidedly different tactic and woof what a miscalculation.
 
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He went with a decidedly different tactic and woof what a miscalculation.

Wouldn't be his first one

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PogiJones

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Mine wasn't a transcript of Filip's review VO as it published - it was the original video review script. Small ad-libs commonly happen in the VO recording process. But your point is taken - it isn't an exact 1:1 copy of Filip's video review transcript as it published.

Regardless, it's an unbroken nearly 20 word segment with verbatim matching text.
I see. Where did you get the original video review script? Did someone at IGN publish it?

Anyway, we're all in agreement it was plagiarized and the firing was correct. I just wanted to point out what I thought to be an inaccuracy.
 

Hecht

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We aren't interested in providing any sort of exposure for Moriarty, positive or negative - so please get the thread back on track to the original topic. Thanks.
 

Wintermute

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i notice that he somehow apologized to ign and the developer, but not the youtuber he stole from. guy obviously doesn't think he's done anything wrong - he also doesn't realise that he's totally tanked his career in journalism. *sad trombone*
 

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I see. Although you say that like it's something that should have been obvious. Makes sense how he has the script, though.
He's been posting in these threads all week, so I thought it was. Of course, I failed to consider that to a newcomer or a more disengaged observer, there was no reason for it to be evident, so my apologies.
 

YolkFolk

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Filip always reminded me of that guy you meet at school/college/work or whatever, the one where they act like they know a ton about a certain subject, in this case video games, but when you try and have an in-depth discussion with them, as someone with great knowledge yourself, you begin to realise that there is little understanding or comprehension under the surface.

I believe that's where the plagiarism comes from. He just didn't know enough on his own to say what was good or bad about a game.

He also used to look really awkward if pre-2002 Nintendo were mentioned, like he had no real experience of the games or when they came out. Keep in mind this is the head of all Nintendo content at IGN. He'd often say things which would leave me scratching my head.
 

Cudpug

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It would have been interesting to hear something in the way of admitting that he lifted portions of the review. Kind of like, 'it's true, I did watch Boomsticks' video review before writing my own and yes, I did lift a lot of the language from that review. I did this for X reason. That doesn't make it right, but that's why I did it'. I watched this yesterday and still feel as if I don't quite get what he did or why he did it.

Still, I hope the guy bounces back in some capacity. No one should be considered beyond redemption and the guy will hopefully take what he learned at IGN and apply it to his own original content. I hope he reflects on what has happened and betters his work ethic. Best of luck to his family.
 

.exe

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Press sneak fuck strikes again. Can't believe he's actually going the lying media route. Classy. I don't really appreciate how he doesn't take responsibility for it either. That's not exactly messaging to his audience or possible future employers that it won't happen again.

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HellofaMouse

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"what happened with the Dead Cells review was not at all intentional."

this obviously is not true.

he copied the review almost sentence by sentence, without even properly paraphrasing it. and it wasnt the first time he did this either.

and now he is trying to apologise for his plagiarism with lies and accusations (toward kotaku).

this sure is not a good look. in the other thread people were saying "i hope he never gets another job in this industry ever again" i thought those were a bit much, but now im thinking maybe those people had a point.
 

danowat

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So basically sorry but not sorry? It was unintentional? How's that work?

Sorry officer i unintentionally stole that ring.
 
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