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Rouk'

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I fell like it depends on what "matter" means. ie someone against death sentence would "wish" for a nazi to live, in prison most likely. In a sense (as I am against death sentence), their life matter as they should rot in prison, but that's it.

Which is something the article says.

Being a fascist? Someone who fundamentally believes the humanity of other people is open for debate? That is your choice. It is not your life.

From the moment you chose to be a nazi, you life is not yours anymore, and its only purpose is to keep on living being punished one way or another. Nazism must be eradicated. So you can throw everyone of them in prison, then, either they die there, or they truly change and are not nazi anymore (you know, redemption, it's debatable whether it's possible or not, but I guess the possibility exists). But in both case, no more nazi. But

Fascism is not to be debated, it needs to be destroyed.

I agree, but how can we really destroy it ? Violence causes violence,etc. It's kinda like an hydra, kill(or imprison) a nazi, and ten come back stronger.
The solution would be education I guess (both from the school and from the parents). But it's a neverending task. Nazi parents will "create" nazi children most of the time.
The theory would be to first stop the spreading of nazism, then cut off those who already were nazi. Or wait for them to die naturally, if you are against violence, as long as they can't spread their thoughts

And I'm kinda arguing with myself in this comment, but is it even possible ? If we were to fully eradicate nazism (and every other forms of discriminatory hate) wouldn't it naturally come back (as long as there is a "us" and a "them". But we also need to protect our differences one way or another (not just cultural differences like religions, but physical differences). Otherwise this is simply eugenism. And we've come full circle with the nazi. (To end hate, everyone needs to be a part of "us", but it means "them" must disappear, so eugenism, so hate because who gets to chose which is "us" in the end)

So yeah, "it needs to be destroyed". True. But in reality, we can only try.
 

Maxim726x

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If you don't think so then what are you even accusing me of dishonestly interpretating

Could you be more straightforward please

You first, unless you'd like to continue be passive aggressive instead.

It's merely asking people to realize that there are some who can't be reached, and that some people shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt. They are wrong... What you do with that is up to you. I don't think it's trying to incite violence per se, but if such an outcome is necessary than so be it. Anything to prevent a rise to power.
 
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Nokterian

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I fell like it depends on what "matter" means. ie someone against death sentence would "wish" for a nazi to live, in prison most likely. In a sense (as I am against death sentence), their life matter as they should rot in prison, but that's it.

Which is something the article says.



From the moment you chose to be a nazi, you life is not yours anymore, and its only purpose is to keep on living being punished one way or another. Nazism must be eradicated. So you can throw everyone of them in prison, then, either they die there, or they truly change and are not nazi anymore (you know, redemption, it's debatable whether it's possible or not, but I guess the possibility exists). But in both case, no more nazi. But



I agree, but how can we really destroy it ? Violence causes violence,etc. It's kinda like an hydra, kill(or imprison) a nazi, and ten come back stronger.
The solution would be education I guess (both from the school and from the parents). But it's a neverending task. Nazi parents will "create" nazi children most of the time.
The theory would be to first stop the spreading of nazism, then cut off those who already were nazi.

And I'm kinda arguing with myself in this comment, but is it even possible ? If we were to fully eradicate nazism (and every other forms of discriminatory hate) wouldn't it naturally come back (as long as there is a "us" and a "them". But we also need to protect our differences one way or another (not just cultural differences like religions, but physical differences). Otherwise this is simply eugenism. And we've come full circle with the nazi. (To end hate, everyone needs to be a part of "us", but it means "them" must disappear, so eugenism, so hate because who gets to chose which is "us" in the end)

So yeah, "it needs to be destroyed". True. But in reality, we can only try.

Try?

We had a World War over this, so yeah it can be destroyed and we will have to do it again and again.
 

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You first, unless you'd like to continue be passive aggressive instead.

It's merely asking people to realize that there are some who can't be reached, and that some people shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt. They are wrong... What you do with that is up to you. I don't think it's trying to incite violence per se, but if such an outcome is necessary than so be it. Anything to prevent a rise to power.

If that's how you read it then why did you accuse me of interpreting it dishonestly?

The hell
 

xbhaskarx

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This article seems to be advocating for killing our current white supremists. You are cosigning?
Uh, no it's not. Did you even bother to read it?

Having said that
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