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You only need GSM. CDMA is basically a US thing (not only, but mainly) with a few providers. Seriously do not read into the nonsense. A1901 is the single model that is sold throughout all of europe and can be used all over the world. I have an A1901 and just ran speedtests on my 50Mbps 4G plan, got from 45+ to 60Mpbs (I guess the provider may offer a bit more than the hired speed). Anyone that tells you it has a bad modem is wrong. This is even sillier than the TSMC vs Samsung A9 debacle on the 6s.
There's nothing "bad" about the 1901 but it's different to the Qualcomm modem. That's a fact. Enjoy your phone. It's totally fine. But Qualcomm v Intel is different. See iPhone 7 https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/20/iphone-7-qualcomm-intel-modem-cellular-performance/

There are actually reports the T-Mobile model is faster than Verizon. But until we get a real write up, I'll go with the better node process.

iPhone X - A1865:
  • Qualcomm X16
  • 14nm Samsung FinFET
iPhone X - A1901
  • Intel XMM 7480
  • 28nm (TSMC?)
As you can see, when it comes to the process, the Intel modem is 1.5 nodes behind the Qualcomm modem https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/79k7vr/iphone_x_qualcomm_vs_intel_battery_life_real/

This is an unproductive post. And quite rude, particularly in an iPhone X thread. I guess taking pride in ignorance is cool? You don't have to care but acting like anyone caring is ridiculous, is absurd.
 

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If you're never gonna join Verizon or Sprint during the life of the phone there's literally no reason to care about the model number



Roaming ?

This is an unproductive post. And quite rude, particularly in an iPhone X thread. I guess taking pride in ignorance is cool? You don't have to care but acting like anyone caring is ridiculous, is absurd.

Yup
 

eyeball_kid

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There's nothing "bad" about the 1901 but it's different to the Qualcomm modem. That's a fact. Enjoy your phone. It's totally fine. But Qualcomm v Intel is different. See iPhone 7 https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/20/iphone-7-qualcomm-intel-modem-cellular-performance/

There are actually reports the T-Mobile model is faster than Verizon. But until we get a real write up, I'll go with the better node process.

My X on T-Mobile is plenty fast. The data limits for even "unlimited" plan are so small that it doesn't make much difference at this point. Signal quality is a different story, but afaik no one is really supporting T-Mobile's new band until 2018 anyway.


Are there really places at this point where your only roaming option in the USA is a Verizon network and not ATT? I imagine it'd be somewhere pretty remote, but I guess it's possible.
 

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My X on T-Mobile is plenty fast. The data limits for even "unlimited" plan are so small that it doesn't make much difference at this point. Signal quality is a different story, but afaik no one is really supporting T-Mobile's new band until 2018 anyway.
I agree with you. My main hope is for the Qualcomm version to be better on battery. The node is much more advanced so I'll take my chances with it. I've read the Intel version is actually faster on T-Mobile, anyway https://blog.speedsmart.net/2017/11/13/iphone-x-which-modem-is-faster/
 

Shinku_King

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I've been watching so many videos on iphone X went into the apple store yesterday to play around with it....man it feels really good to hold I also tested the iphone 8 which wasn't too bad but its hard to notice the difference from the 7. Anyways I'm really considering upgrading from my S7 to the X I had Iphone 4-6s went to android now I miss IOS.
 

tabris

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Google is doing a really bad job updating their apps for iphoneX. Gmail, hangouts, and calendar all not updated.

I wonder if they do it on purpose.
 

Zulith

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Google has updated several apps for the X but not the most important one... which is GMail. Sure are taking their time. :)

I'm starting to get worried about a lot of the games I play though, I wonder if some of them will ever get an X update, including several gacha games that are still very much considered active. So far very, very few are updated.

I remember the transition apps went through to support the Plus models, I'm not a dev so maybe that transition was easier, but it felt like it got adopted a lot faster.
 

tabris

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I can't believe Translate was updated before Maps.

Maybe just an easier update? The UI in translate is really simple in comparison. But yeah, they should have been on Maps way before release when specs were announced and SDK available.

Honestly, Apple Maps is getting pretty good. I've made the change. If I drove, I may only use google maps or waze, but for walking and transit - Apple Maps is fantastic.
 

Zulith

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once Apple maps finally added transit data i stopped caring. Both maps apps are very good, I don't have too much of a preference. But I'm spoiled, I'm in the Bay Area which gets great support in stuff like that. In some places Google may have much stronger support.
 

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Maybe just an easier update? The UI in translate is really simple in comparison. But yeah, they should have been on Maps way before release when specs were announced and SDK available.

Honestly, Apple Maps is getting pretty good. I've made the change. If I drove, I may only use google maps or waze, but for walking and transit - Apple Maps is fantastic.
Oh, I use Apple Maps 99% of the time, but I have Google Maps for that 1%.
 

badcrumble

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once Apple maps finally added transit data i stopped caring. Both maps apps are very good, I don't have too much of a preference. But I'm spoiled, I'm in the Bay Area which gets great support in stuff like that. In some places Google may have much stronger support.
Basic directions to an address at this point are fine on Apple Maps, yeah - Google Maps is still clearly better for point of interest data, though (and when Apple Maps fucks up, it REALLY fucks up, and puts you in the wrong city or something).
 

jts

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There's nothing "bad" about the 1901 but it's different to the Qualcomm modem. That's a fact. Enjoy your phone. It's totally fine. But Qualcomm v Intel is different. See iPhone 7 https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/20/iphone-7-qualcomm-intel-modem-cellular-performance/

There are actually reports the T-Mobile model is faster than Verizon. But until we get a real write up, I'll go with the better node process.

iPhone X - A1865:
  • Qualcomm X16
  • 14nm Samsung FinFET
iPhone X - A1901
  • Intel XMM 7480
  • 28nm (TSMC?)
As you can see, when it comes to the process, the Intel modem is 1.5 nodes behind the Qualcomm modem https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/79k7vr/iphone_x_qualcomm_vs_intel_battery_life_real/
See, that's why I chose the words that I did. I'm not saying that the Qualcomm baseband chip isn't better than the Intel one, which I don't know but can believe it is. When you have 2 suppliers for a component it is often the case that one is better than the other. Usually it's because one can't provide enough volume so there's a lottery but in this case it's because Intel can't provide a CDMA baseband, which Apple would prefer they did, so the Qualcomm hybrid GSM/CDMA baseband may come with that unintended side benefit, which if you can choose to get over the other and you trust that it is better, more power to you. Absolutely.

What I am saying is that the A1901 is the more common iPhone X model, and in some regions of the world it's the single one offered (and would be too in the US if Apple didn't support CDMA which they "only" started with the iPhone 4). And by that, that the A1901 and all of its components are absolutely iPhone X spec, any differences that may exist (which again I may not be sold on until I see some numbers but I can regardless believe they do exist) will be marginal, and when I see people buying into this unnecessary paranoia, in regions where you can't even get the A1865, I know the splitting of hairs - I mean, we're getting down to worry about the fabric process of an iPhone subsystem - is getting too far. And buyers paranoia is a very common occurrence when an iPhone comes out, which is unnecessary and needlessly detracts from people enjoying their absolutely top notch phone (pun intended :P). My A1901 has good reception, excellent battery life and great LTE speeds - better than my Huawei 4G home gateway.

When I got my 6s Plus and it had a Samsung-made A9, boy was I pissed. I couldn't really send it back either. It shadowed what should have been a joyful moment of getting a new iPhone. And 2 years later, in retrospect, it really didn't matter and I regret that I worried. The phone was absolutely up to the spec, and most people selling a 6s nowadays aren't even aware or mention the SoC provided.

TL;DR: if you live in the US, believe that the A1865 is better than A1901 and can get it instead, more power to you. If you got an A1901 and would be a hassle to exchange it, or live in some regions where straight up nothing else than the A1901 is offered, then my god please just enjoy your phone instead of being paranoid, any differences will be marginal and they both completely fulfill what an iPhone X is.
 

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As an oldschool smarthphone user tempered glass screens have always seemed like hocus pocus. I just installed the 10$ one the wirecutter recommends and it's not too bad.
 

Rodney McKay

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My X on T-Mobile is plenty fast. The data limits for even "unlimited" plan are so small that it doesn't make much difference at this point. Signal quality is a different story, but afaik no one is really supporting T-Mobile's new band until 2018 anyway.
I really hope Apple starts supporting that next year.

As much as I would love an X right now, I really don't need a new phone for a while and I really do want one that supports T-Mobile new band.
 

Ninjadom

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Oct 25, 2017
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Alright, got my X. Set it up, restored from my iTunes backup and now everything.

First impressions:

1) The screen is lovely! Coming from a regular sized 7, I appreciate the extra little space I'm getting on the screen. The notch isn't an issue. I've got True Tone turned on. I also wanna find a good video showcase for HDR.

2) Face ID seems awesome so far. It's been accurate every time I've used it except for laying on my side in bed. But that's to be expected.

3) Camera is my biggest upgrade. I've now got OIS, optical zoom 2x, 4K 60fps, 4K 24fps and portrait mode. All things I never had on my 7. Camera, pictures and videos are important to me.

4) Haven't got quite used to the Home button removal. A few times I've been reaching to press it. I've read enough of this thread to know about all the shortcuts.

Yes so far so good. Haven't sent any Animoji yet. Need to figure that out next.
 

Ninjadom

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Errr, how do you use Animoji?

I've been trying, I get the square around the animal, and it says Low Light (I'm in bed laying down). But as I talk or move my head, nothing happens. Do I need more light?
 
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I know. But they're not responding to my movements in front of the camera. I'm in Messages, choose Animoji, select the animal, the animal then appears big where the keyboard would be and has a large cursor around it. But then nothing.
If you're in bed then you're probably holding your phone too close, which cause the function of both Face ID and animoji to suffer.
 
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I need help here...did Apple remove the depth of field effect introduced in iPhone 7 Plus or iPhone X doesn't have the capability? I have checked the camera settings and I can't find it.
 

Mr. Wonderful

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I'm going to be really curious to see how the fixed function hardware in the Fusion and Bionic ages over time. Is Apple going to use updated machine-learning acceleration to lock users out of features on newer phones, or is the hardware flexible and powerful enough to take on any new features they add over the next couple of years? If it's not, how limiting will it be to the iOS experience?
 

Piggus

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Come on, UPS, what's the hold up? Shipped a week ago and has been stuck in ZhengZhou ever since. Really frustrating checking the tracking and seeing no updates for 4 days+.
 

reKon

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Nice phone is nice. I've played this this a few separate times now and it seems to me that everyone who really does want one is finding the means to get it?

The screen looks great and looks amazing in person. Best looking iPhone by far.

They could have completed the package by making good changes to iOS, but it still sucks.
 

MrKlaw

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Yeah it was a lighting issue. Although my Face ID worked fine there still wasn't enough light for Animoji to work.

That's odd. I assumed it used the depth camera for proper tracking so would be using the IR stuff? If it's just using the font facing camera wouldn't it be doable on an older iPhone?
 

jts

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That's odd. I assumed it used the depth camera for proper tracking so would be using the IR stuff? If it's just using the font facing camera wouldn't it be doable on an older iPhone?
It would. People have tried to cover the true depth camera and animoji still worked.

So far it all seems to point to it being a feature artificially locked to iPhone X under the false pretense of its advanced sensors.

It could be that they planned to use IR and whatnot but ended cutting it out due to battery concerns, and the front camera being good enough for it, although that way will require good external lighting.

"So now we could bring it at least to iPhone 8 as well boss?"
"Nah."
 
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Erebus

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Alright, got my X. Set it up, restored from my iTunes backup and now everything.

First impressions:

1) The screen is lovely! Coming from a regular sized 7, I appreciate the extra little space I'm getting on the screen. The notch isn't an issue. I've got True Tone turned on. I also wanna find a good video showcase for HDR.

2) Face ID seems awesome so far. It's been accurate every time I've used it except for laying on my side in bed. But that's to be expected.

3) Camera is my biggest upgrade. I've now got OIS, optical zoom 2x, 4K 60fps, 4K 24fps and portrait mode. All things I never had on my 7. Camera, pictures and videos are important to me.

4) Haven't got quite used to the Home button removal. A few times I've been reaching to press it. I've read enough of this thread to know about all the shortcuts.

Yes so far so good. Haven't sent any Animoji yet. Need to figure that out next.
The iPhone 7 camera had OIS.