Wow. "Aussie Bob" is amazing or should I say "1/4 Syrian Bob".
What are you even talking about?
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Wow. "Aussie Bob" is amazing or should I say "1/4 Syrian Bob".
What are you even talking about?
He accusing you of not caring about Katter being a piece of garbage until he expressed an opinion that you disliked.
I won't lie, its hard for me to understand how you could see Bob Katter as a "larrikin". You know, with his connections to Joh Bjelke-Petersen (probably closest thing Australia had to an actual fascist in government), support for forced indigenous labour, claims that Port Arthur was a hoax to take away our guns and so forth. There was really never any reason to like the man, he's not like Roseanne Barr who completely lost her mind after her car accident. Bob Katter was always a piece of garbage.
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if you don't pay attention to his crazy spittle on a constant basis i could see it. he tends to leave enough space between jumping out and being a fucking moron that he can escape your mind while you reel from the Lib's latest assault on reason. also all the fucking crazy independents going for the exact same thing can really blend into each other.
Katter's statement doesn't make logical sense but its honestly par for course when it comes to nationalists who don't have an Anglo-Saxon background. Integration has long stood for "fuck your culture" and by shedding away his impure Lebanese heritage, Katter's grandfather is a real Australian not like those dirty asians speaking Chinese or Vietnamese to each other at the supermarket.
I had a soft spot for him in the same way that people have a soft spot for their crazy uncle who is a bit racist, sexist and homophobic, but is usually good for a few laughs and generally harmless because you only have to see him at Christmas time. You know the type, every family usually has one.
But every once in a while, that crazy uncle goes way too far and says something that can't be forgiven or laughed off as, "just crazy old Uncle Bob". Usually that is something like endorsing Hitler or the Nazis. Then crazy old uncle Bob gets told to leave the house.
That's my view of Bob Katter. Usually, his brand of politics is just so silly that he is laughable and essentially harmless. Endorsing a Nazi is not laughable and harmless.
His brand of politics in Queensland was to bring back the Joh Bjelke-Petersen days. That was basically the entire platform of Katter's Australian Party.
Joh Bjelke-Petersen ran a literal police state in Queensland, it goes without saying that Katter is probably a little sympathetic towards fascist ideas. People should have probably taken him more seriously rather than letting his shit slide. Its the exact story of the Tea Party, a political movement that eventually turned the Republican Party from a conservative party to pure grievance party. People didn't take them seriously ("that nutty aunt and uncle sending chain emails God bless them") until they started winning primary elections which then was already too late because all the moderate conservatives were dead and buried at that point.
Also we don't invite our piece of garbage uncle to our ethnic barbeques.
Edit: And let it be known that Charlottesville riots happened around August 12. The timing of all of this is absolutely intentional.
Joh Bjelke-Petersen ran a literal police state in Queensland, it goes without saying that Katter is probably a little sympathetic towards fascist ideas. People should have probably taken him more seriously rather than letting his shit slide. Its the exact story of the Tea Party, a political movement that eventually turned the Republican Party from a conservative party to pure grievance party. People didn't take them seriously ("that nutty aunt and uncle sending chain emails God bless them") until they started winning primary elections which then was already too late because all the moderate conservatives were dead and buried at that point.
Also we don't invite our piece of garbage uncle to our ethnic barbeques.
Edit: And let it be known that Charlottesville riots happened around August 12. The timing of all of this is absolutely intentional.
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Relevant to the discussion here, from Anning's maiden speech:
Good ol' Joh, Premier from 1968 to 1987.
Wow, he's
Nobody wants an overprotective "nanny" state poking its nose into their lives all the time. An "abusive stepfather who threatens to send you to military school if he catches you hanging out with those types again" state, on the other hand...
Bit of a difference though between an uncle whose audience is simply those at the Christmas table and knows better than to repeat his views at work or in public (or if he does repeat them he's shunned by most people), and Bob who says similar things into a megaphone to the nation and gets paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for doing it to boot.
Well, I never said I agreed with much that he said, just that he was kinda funny to have around while he was talking about people getting ripped apart by crocs and other such nonsense.
However, his schtick has definitely worn out its welcome after these shenanigans.
Talk this morning of rumblings of Dutton for PM, which makes me think of seismologists monitoring the unearthing of a potato.
I wonder if Abbott's end game is:
1. Get rid of Turnbull
2. Dutton for PM
3. Most likely lose the election to Labor
4. Back to square one with Abbott as opposition leader
5. Blame labor for the inevitable house market crash
6. Abbott for pm
Regardless, Dutton as pm spooks me.
1. Get rid of Turnbull
2. Dutton for PM
3. Most likely lose the election to Labor
4. Back to square one with Abbott as opposition leader
5. Blame labor for the inevitable house market crash
6. Abbott for pm
Regardless, Dutton as pm spooks me.
The thing is that no one likes Abbott either. He's just an exceptional opposition leader, even to his own party's leader.
Yeah, Abbott as PM is unelectable at this point.
This whole clusterfuck could actually rip apart the Coalition and leave Labor unopposed.
This whole clusterfuck could actually rip apart the Coalition and leave Labor unopposed.
My biggest worry is that Abbott/Dutton have been studying Trump and how to manipulate the media and the voters with painting the media as the enemy. ABC will be in the crossfire.
Trump isn't manipulating the media like a master, he's only alive because the Republican Party has been completely overrun by the Freedom Caucus as well as a lot of individuals with questionable links to Russia. We're not close to that point yet, our two major political parties both openly hate asylum seekers but the LNP isn't quite willing to chop their limbs off just to "stick it to the left wing".
It also helps that we have compulsory voting, which makes turnout based methods of voter suppression impossible to do.
It also helps that we have compulsory voting, which makes turnout based methods of voter suppression impossible to do.
When Turnbull replaced him the Liberals' talking point to downplay the chances of him returning was "Abbott is not Rudd". They were right for the wrong reason.
This is all pretty much the case, but Trump does have some populist appeal and was a media personality for decades. Dutton on the other hand has as much charisma as he does facial expressions.
It's less likely but Howard won in 98 with ~49% of the vote 2PP.
The thought process of the right of the Libs over the past term of government:
Leak and destabilise Turnbull > Turnbull's polls go down > Complain that polls are bad > Agitate for leadership change > provide no viable alternative > no change in leadership > government gets on with business of government > Turnbull's polls start to go up > leak and destabilise Turnbull
Rinse and repeat.
It's fucking childish and is essentially cutting their nose to spite their face.
If the Libs change PM, I will most likely be donkey voting.
Leak and destabilise Turnbull > Turnbull's polls go down > Complain that polls are bad > Agitate for leadership change > provide no viable alternative > no change in leadership > government gets on with business of government > Turnbull's polls start to go up > leak and destabilise Turnbull
Rinse and repeat.
It's fucking childish and is essentially cutting their nose to spite their face.
If the Libs change PM, I will most likely be donkey voting.
South Australia ALP won the 2014 election after losing 53-47 on 2pp such was the disparity between city and country primary voter numbers.
In 2018 the ALP had a swing to them on 2pp but clearly lost the election such was the change in boundaries.
Yeah it's possible isn't it? But you don't really have something like California where millions of votes are basically useless because the AEC will redraw the boundaries.
I suppose there's the Senate, which is by its design unrepresentative, but the US has that anyway.
Plus the Coalition is already going into the next election at a disadvantage, there's going to be three new seats added and Antony Green has said they're all likely to elect a Labor candidate wiping out the government's majority. You can see why the Republicans in the US are so keen to gerrymander. Growing urban centres are headaches for right wing parties.
A Queensland cop
what's the difference
A Queensland Young Liberal that also became a Queensland police officer in the 1980s is 100% a cunt.
Also, News Corp revving up the SPILL SPILL SPILL siren:
Also, News Corp revving up the SPILL SPILL SPILL siren:
The fetishisation of Dutton always surprises me because even if you agree with him he's just not very competent, he has a string of high profile fuck ups under his belt.
I'd really be shocked if a challenge did come tomorrow because I find it hard to believe one of his plotters didn't accidentally CC in the Canberra Press Gallery to their secret plotters email chain.
I'd really be shocked if a challenge did come tomorrow because I find it hard to believe one of his plotters didn't accidentally CC in the Canberra Press Gallery to their secret plotters email chain.
A Queensland Young Liberal that also became a Queensland police officer in the 1980s is 100% a cunt.
Also, News Corp revving up the SPILL SPILL SPILL siren:
Indeed.
What's this I hear about Dutton going at Turnbull?
Now we'll have two party leaders who used Charisma as their dump stat.
Now we'll have two party leaders who used Charisma as their dump stat.
Sorry mate, but screw you. My cousin is a Queensland cop and your attitude is shit.
Queensland police might have a bad reputation, but that's no excuse to slander a bunch of hardworking people who do a hell of a lot of good and have never done anything bad.
There's bad eggs in every profession, so please share your's so I can make horrible assumptions about you too.
If you think all Queensland police are cunts, then please sort yourself out next time you're in trouble.
The monster that is section 44 rises again from the swamp will it seize its latest victim?
Find out more in tomorrow's episode of Dutton versus Turnbull.
Find out more in tomorrow's episode of Dutton versus Turnbull.
lol that's the same argument Blue Lives Matter supporters give to black Americans protesting police brutality.
If I wanted to join United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement in 2018, I think it's completely fair to call me a cunt seeing I'm helping enact fascist policy and psychological torture.
Like we talked about a while ago, Queensland was a police state during Joh's reign. I don't know about your cousin but Dutton, being born in Australia and being a part of Queensland's Young Liberals, absolutely knew about the fascist tendencies of the Queensland police force and was obviously attracted by it. You don't join an organisation like that like a year after Joh's political demise, after being aware of its history and conduct, without being a bit of an asshole.
If you wrote this in fiction they'd call it a contrived reworking of past plot lines.
I think you're bacon this too personally. I'm sure they'll snort it out for me fine, I'm a white middle class male.
And I'll happily call my profession cunty on a systematic level because it is, and it's for many of the same reasons as cops. We're rolling around in the same mud, if you will.
