I managed to get the code from quoting you oddly, the Vertex is telling me 512 luminance, sure is bright though.....
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I managed to get the code from quoting you oddly, the Vertex is telling me 512 luminance, sure is bright though.....
Last year's Panasonic ez 950 and ez 1000 were both made in Japan (panel was made by LG of course). Sony and other JP brands seem to manufacture in China etc.
I just edited my post. Recheck it and it should give you an idea of what the display is doing when processing hdr
Christ this is brighter than DTM, using my test GT Sport, gonna have to test it thoroughly, could be too much.
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Benji when is the return window up? I'd advise you keep it until around then, regardless of your end intent. Watch various content, fiddle with settings, etc. If after spending some actual time with it you and your wife agree it's too much, return it.
The flip flopping multiple times per day is super reactionary and won't make decision-making easy
The flip flopping multiple times per day is super reactionary and won't make decision-making easy
Ok. See I'm not familiar with how bias lighting works at all other than it's supposed to help with eye strain in dark room settings.
So I should be looking for something with 6500K? Also just plain white is fine or should it be a certain color?
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6500K refers to the color. It's the color that is considered "reference"
Ah ok so I should be looking for bias lighting that is at 6500k. Got it
I ended up leaving Best Buy empty handed. i'm really conflicted between the TCL R615 and OLED B8. I'm not really in a hurry to buy the best TV and the money I save with the TCL I could build a nice new PC, but the B8 is beautiful... Ugh, there's no right answer here.
As a B7 owner, just ask yourself one thing. "Do I want a fun and safe car or do I want a Ferrari that does the same thing and better but I have to baby, spend more on, and treat with care?"
I don't regret my B7, the picture is amazing. Whenever someone comes into my home they are agasp. Yet I fine tune game HUDs, worry about channel logos, and turn it off frequently to avoid any kind of burn in. I'm almost a year in now, no sign of BI/IR but I still think about it all the time.
If I did it all again I'd probably buy the top of the line Samsung QLED or go cheap with a TCL. There are certainly times I loveeee my OLED, but if you're even half as neurotic as me, pass on them for now.
I bought the 4K blu-rays of the two most recent ones, but I don't have the original three yet.
Ghost Protocol I thought looked gorgeous. Rogue Nation was just a little under that.
Admittedly GP is also my favorite of the movies so far, followed by the one that just came out, but SpareChange seemingly thought the same so I don't think it's just that. :)
His reviews of the two discs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wscrkiHAzBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlLPDynet_o
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That's exactly how I was with my Plasma. When I bought my KS8500 I was so happy I didn't have to worry about IR any more. Even babying my Plasma, I ended up burning in the Souls counter from Demon/Darks Souls.
Hey there...let's not get carried away!!! That was a very tough decision my friend! Life altering actually! lol
You don't have to do any of this though. Emphasis on the bolded. You're seeing there is nothing to actually fear right in front of you.
Does anyone else have a home theater system and LG oled and apple 4k tv. I updated my vudu app on my oled started watching Deadpool 2 and Infinity war scenes and this seems better both visually and audio on my TV app than using the apple 4ktv Vudu app. Curious if anyone else can test out the two to see if I'm not crazy. Gonna switch to my TV app for Vudu.
I recently switched from a Panasonic ST60 to a B7 and have noticed the Plasma is way worse for IR than the OLED.
I still think the strengths of OLED, outweigh the negatives. They aren't perfect by any means but going back to a normal LED TV after using an OLED, feels like going back to the ghetto. Some people will prefer a set with higher peak brightness or better motion handling but I prefer a TV where the picture quality is consistently good and doesn't turn to ass the moment there is a dark scene.
I still think the strengths of OLED, outweigh the negatives. They aren't perfect by any means but going back to a normal LED TV after using an OLED, feels like going back to the ghetto. Some people will prefer a set with higher peak brightness or better motion handling but I prefer a TV where the picture quality is consistently good and doesn't turn to ass the moment there is a dark scene.
Some people can't help themselves. They read it one time online and the fear is forever persistent.
I had a Panasonic ST60 prior to my B7A that had a lot of image retention issues. These never persisted to burn in or anything close to it. My B7A hasn't even had a hint of IR, I know I made the right choice.
Anyone coming from a plasma to an OLED is straight up laughing at someone who's scared of IR on an OLED (unless you abuse it/treat it like a PC monitor). You should have seen how we were living in the past.
Picked up a 55" LG OLED C8 from that Slickdeals post a couple weeks ago.
Best TV I've ever owned. Was kind of building up towards it when I got a PS4 Pro and updgrading my Apple TV to the 4K version. I was close to getting a Sony 55" x900f but glad I didn't pull the trigger as this deal popped up and got a much nicer tv for a little bit more.
Now I'm pixel peeping movies and games for the hell of it
Best TV I've ever owned. Was kind of building up towards it when I got a PS4 Pro and updgrading my Apple TV to the 4K version. I was close to getting a Sony 55" x900f but glad I didn't pull the trigger as this deal popped up and got a much nicer tv for a little bit more.
Now I'm pixel peeping movies and games for the hell of it
I think you nailed why seeing the OLED 'concern' irks me so much. Like you, I came from Plasma to OLED. Plasma had a bunch of real issues with persistent image retention and 'burn-in'. OLED has had none of the same issues. For years now.
I'm back to being obsessive in a good way over my P Quantum. My eyes are adjusting to the brightness. Now I just need bias lighting and I think we are all good
Also, not sure if this matter on TV with lower nit output but there is a fairly huge difference between HDR10 content and Dolby Vision content on this set. I've been testing content of both kinds and Dolby Vision looks vastly more toned correctly, while HDR10 content appears at times to just flair up as high as it can like all the time. It loses the nuance that Dolby Vision gives to highlights where there are extremely bright ones but more of a range that looks "correct" if that makes any sense
Makes me wish games would be mastered in Dolby Vision but as far as I know I believe the are all HDR10
Also, not sure if this matter on TV with lower nit output but there is a fairly huge difference between HDR10 content and Dolby Vision content on this set. I've been testing content of both kinds and Dolby Vision looks vastly more toned correctly, while HDR10 content appears at times to just flair up as high as it can like all the time. It loses the nuance that Dolby Vision gives to highlights where there are extremely bright ones but more of a range that looks "correct" if that makes any sense
Makes me wish games would be mastered in Dolby Vision but as far as I know I believe the are all HDR10
Not at all imho. I don't think we will see full 2.1 till 2020. We might get sets in 2019 that has some features like this years Samsungs, but full fat 2.1 I don't see until 2020 sets.
Jesus Christ I take back every bad thing I ever said about the P Quantum (other than viewing angles. Those are legit poor)
Been watching this Channel through the TVs built in YouTube App which does display HDR and the picture is legit mind blowing. Had my parents over and they were legit stunned at the image
https://youtu.be/hVvEISFw9w0
Been watching this Channel through the TVs built in YouTube App which does display HDR and the picture is legit mind blowing. Had my parents over and they were legit stunned at the image
https://youtu.be/hVvEISFw9w0
Eye adjustments are real going from the jump of an old 1080p TV to something like this over 2000 nits.
I went from discomfort watching the TV in general to I just spent the last 2 hours watching HDR content in a totally black room and feel perfectly fine.
Just wanted to throw a word of caution out there, in case anyone jumps to this TV after never owning an HDR set before learn from my experience. You very likely will exoerience eye discomfort for a bit at first but your eyes will adjust to the huge leap in brightness
I went from discomfort watching the TV in general to I just spent the last 2 hours watching HDR content in a totally black room and feel perfectly fine.
Just wanted to throw a word of caution out there, in case anyone jumps to this TV after never owning an HDR set before learn from my experience. You very likely will exoerience eye discomfort for a bit at first but your eyes will adjust to the huge leap in brightness
Probably this already came up, so i apologize in advance.
Could any of you gentle souls provide a quick guide on what are the best measures to avoid possible burn-in on oled TVs?
My understanding is that burn-in on C7/B7 is not covered in the insurance?
Thanks a lot.
Could any of you gentle souls provide a quick guide on what are the best measures to avoid possible burn-in on oled TVs?
My understanding is that burn-in on C7/B7 is not covered in the insurance?
Thanks a lot.
My TV is insanely bright
And it looks INSANE in HDR now that my eyes have become accustomed to it. I've heard people say there isnt an adjusting period for viewing HdR in large amount but in my experience there is. I have zero issue watching this TV now which was far from the case before
The brights on this thing paired with the local dimming which is executed extremely well even in a dark room is kinda mind blowing
Which does a better job of scaling; the LG B7 or the GTX 1070? I have to play a lot of games sub-4k, usually 1800p. I'm trying to figure out which option gives less upscaling blur.
TVs normally do a better job on upscaling, cards use heavy software to perform any type of scaling.
just remember that at the end the TV will ALWAYS upscale the signal (in order to display a full screen image) so is up to you if you want the extra(video card) step in the upscaling chain.
The TV wouldn't be upscaling the signal if the GPU is feeding it a native image. The GPU is sending the TV a 4k signal, so why would the TV be upscaling it... to 4k?
For 1800p to 4K, I'd use the GPU for sure. But for me, if I'm going to play sub-4K I usually just do 1080p @ 120 Hz for my B7, which the OLED does a fine job with.
there is always a extra step.
the game renders in 1800p(or whatever res u want) then its scaled to 4k and that signal is send to the TV, the is a extra upscaling performed by the GPU.
the other its the game renders to 1800p and that signal its send direct to the tv, the TV will perform the 4k upscaling.
also if you are outside PC Mode the tv will downsample all signals to 4:2:2 color, even 4k signals, so there is always a extra step.
Oh .yes you are correct
Don't be surprised depending on which lighting you get to use two sets depending on length, as bright as you feel the PQ is.
I have found that backlighting can be fairly bright and still gives great results. Some of the bias lighting you get works better for 55" sets and 65 diffuses it quite a bit, maybe start with one but consider a longer set
1080p is just too low-res for me, even with good antialiasing I find the image to be just too soft. I'm also purposely trying to keep myself away from 120Hz, because my short time with it has indeed felt incredible to play at, but it's just far too demanding of a target for the graphical fidelity I'm after so I'm trying to stay use to 60.
So Benji is keeping his TV now? lol, the amount of flip-flopping over the last few pages has been hilarious :p
Ok i just watched the UHD bluray of Saving Private Ryan. First thing what a movie. Its been years since i have seen it and its probably the greatest movie i have ever seen. Its so fucking sad. I do not cry. Just doesnt happen. I just about did in this movie. Absolutely fucking amazing. So many things happened that i hated but its was war and i understand. 10/10.
Secondly on my E8 OLED...WOW. Perfect. Looked so nice. With my home theater setup that scene at romelle when the tanks are coming the bass was soooo good. Between the movie, the sound and the picture i was getting anxiety attacks for what was about to transpire. I could only imagine with a great ATMOS setup.
Anyway what a movie. Highly reccomend if no one has watched on their setups.
Secondly on my E8 OLED...WOW. Perfect. Looked so nice. With my home theater setup that scene at romelle when the tanks are coming the bass was soooo good. Between the movie, the sound and the picture i was getting anxiety attacks for what was about to transpire. I could only imagine with a great ATMOS setup.
Anyway what a movie. Highly reccomend if no one has watched on their setups.
Well, fuck.
First couple price leaks look like 2080Ti is $1,200.
Not sure I'm gonna be on board at that price. That's Titan territory. Guess we'll see what the performance delta looks like, but that's a fuck ton of money for a GPU
First couple price leaks look like 2080Ti is $1,200.
Not sure I'm gonna be on board at that price. That's Titan territory. Guess we'll see what the performance delta looks like, but that's a fuck ton of money for a GPU
Most likely picking up a B8 this week (coming from a Sony KDL55X80C). I've never really calibrated a tv properly before ( Just usually eyeballing), and I'm wondering about the options available to do it myself.
I know various places recommend the TeddDisc (sp. ?), but I don't think that's sold in the UK?
If I go for the Spears and Munsil disc, will that do a good job by itself? If it's better to use something like a meter too, how much is the best budget priced one (Looking at spending max £100 for meter, if needed) ?
Thanks.
I know various places recommend the TeddDisc (sp. ?), but I don't think that's sold in the UK?
If I go for the Spears and Munsil disc, will that do a good job by itself? If it's better to use something like a meter too, how much is the best budget priced one (Looking at spending max £100 for meter, if needed) ?
Thanks.
Going from 200 nit SDR viewing to bright highlights at 2000 nits? That will be different. The thing with HDR is darker is darker and lighter is lighter due to the higher contrast. High contrast does tire our eyes more. So it is inevitable that it will be harder on the eyes.
800 for the 2080 too no thanks Nvidia.
Not worth it for 1200. Nvidia is going to price themselves out of the market after the early adopters snap them up.
I'll stick with my 1070 until 7nm cards come.
Yeah i mean between resale of my 1080FE and bby points i'd only be out of pocket like $300 but that's still insane. Barring this thing having earth shattering performance, pretty sure I'm out too.
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That's a pretty crazy price. I know there is a sizeable gulf in graphics between a PC (with THAT card) and a console, but when you can buy a Pro, One X, Switch, SNES Classic and a few games for the price of the GPU alone, you've got some problems (my opinion)
Yep 100% its staying now. No more flip flopping, the thing is unbelievable
Yeah I had always heard people say there is no adjustment period to HDR, and maybe in some cases there isnt. But for me there absolutely was. I went from struggling to watch the TV in general to watching it the entire night last night in a black room at 50 backlight with no bias lighting. And the TV actually is more impressive in a totally dark room than it is during the day time
Going from a standard TV to something this bright was a shock to the system but after a view days my eyes / brain have for sure adjusted