Yeah, when I look at it, I agree. Steam has user reviews + user defined tags.
And also critic score + recommendations.
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Nintendo Switch is about to surpass 3DS in number of available games in NA
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Yeah, when I look at it, I agree. Steam has user reviews + user defined tags.
And also critic score + recommendations.
Even if they released 3-4 titles a month, they will never be close to catch up
Calling everything shovelware is honestly disrespectful to devs. There's a difference between a bad game and literal shovelware.
Not surprising one bit. Thanks to the retail vs physical uneveness, the indie label is placed on the switch for a reason. The 3ds was also terrible when it came to fostering that support (bad storefront, lack of engine compatibility, storage, account funkiness). The 3ds eshop wasnt even available until months after the 3ds released.
A retail only comparison would be more interesting. Or digital only on Switch compared to other digital platforms. The wii u and 3ds otherwise are tomato cans in this comparison.
A retail only comparison would be more interesting. Or digital only on Switch compared to other digital platforms. The wii u and 3ds otherwise are tomato cans in this comparison.
Shockingly...not bloody much. There are a few garbage games on the eshop...but honestly that is just according to my taste. There are very few ( especially compared to weekly itunes/steam releases) shit quality phoned in games coming out for Switch. Seems to me their bottom rung pedigree isn't too terrible.
Why?
The vast majority are eShop only, and Nintendo has been courting indie developers very hard with the Switch. These games have sold well which leads to more games being brought to the platform. Not to mention Switch is more capable of running many more games than the 3DS, whereas the 3DS had to have it's own specific version developed instead of a direct port.
Switch also has some degree of Western third party support
Exactly, people just started reading claims of too much shovelware and ran with it, even though there's not much evidence that proves there is a lot of shovelware
Considering the amount of shovelware they allow in the eshop I expected this to happen much sooner. With the steam like lack of quality control of their marketplace, it seems that surpassing the 3Ds store was the goal all along.
Except 3DS has significantly more shovelware than Switch, despite having a similar software count.
Nintendo's curation standards during the Wii U / 3DS era were considerably lower than they are now.
Love how every single time the hard number of games for Switch shows up, we get the same group of people calling everything trash, truly hilarious at this point.
I would love all of this desperate naysayers to provide actual evidence of how big is the amount of "Shovelware" that is coming to the system, in relation to other systems of course. Starting with what do they define as Shovelware.
And no, "Game I don't know of" is not the definition, son.
I would love all of this desperate naysayers to provide actual evidence of how big is the amount of "Shovelware" that is coming to the system, in relation to other systems of course. Starting with what do they define as Shovelware.
And no, "Game I don't know of" is not the definition, son.
Lots of people get offended when they see the term shovelware but at this point it's just semantics. We all know what it means.
The reality is that the eshop is being flooded on a weekly basis with games most of us won't give the time of day: Mobile ports and low effort indie titles that don't even do a good job of selling themselves on the shop.
2018 has been a dry year for the Switch and the only reason we've accepted it is because most of us discover enough indie titles to keep us busy before bed, and because we have other consoles to scratch that first party itch.
1000+ games in less than 2 years on one system is most certainly not a milestone to celebrate.
The reality is that the eshop is being flooded on a weekly basis with games most of us won't give the time of day: Mobile ports and low effort indie titles that don't even do a good job of selling themselves on the shop.
2018 has been a dry year for the Switch and the only reason we've accepted it is because most of us discover enough indie titles to keep us busy before bed, and because we have other consoles to scratch that first party itch.
1000+ games in less than 2 years on one system is most certainly not a milestone to celebrate.
Umm, congrats I guess. I'm pretty sure by the end of its life I'll still own more 3DS games than Switch ones.
Do we know how many retail games the various platforms have and how many they had launch aligned with switch? I can find out for Japan numbers once I get home if need be
Holy crap could you possibly state your opinion more like it was a fact? And the funny thing is that you are clearly in the minority with your way of thinking here. I always love the odd person out, who speaks like an authority while saying the most inaccurate/ridiculous things....all while truly believing they are actually, an authority. Gosh it just tickles me :p
I think it is actually a great thing that Switch is courting this many developers, and you won't ever know where the next hit would come from. look at Dead Cells? the developers used to make mobile games and then... suddenly they made one of the biggest indie hits this year.
Playstation has always been so successful because of the sheer amount of content first and foremost... other companies took notice and relaxed their policies. Switch is more simple in nature than PS4/Xbox and has a touch screen, too. just think how much more attractive the Switch is gonna be when the price is lowered a bit and when more big and small releases join the library. this will become the biggest Nintendo system ever in terms of software volume.
I think it is really great, just give the consumer the choice to buy what they want. there is a huge catalogue of quality releases on the eShop, and those releases made up for the lack of big titles this year, they kept the userbase engaged and they are helping to drive the momentum of the system.
though to be very honest, I agree that Switch still not in an ideal situation in regards to "key titles" that will help expanding the audience. GTAV should be released for the Switch (maybe they are waiting for the bigger cartridge), and Overwatch too. but still overall they are in a much better position compared to 3DS.
I don't know what the US eShop looks like in terms of available software, but I would like to remind people that "Games I don't play and are less that 15$" is not the definition of shovelware. I highly doubt there is even 50 true shovelware games on there.
The 3DS eShop got absolutely terrible support for a system that was so successful; probably the worst of any digital store ever, reletive to its lifespan and platform success. In North America, there are currently 434 3DS download excluisve games; not actually that far off of the DSiWare service, which had 213 games in total in the US and had a much, MUCH smaller userbase (and was replaced by the 3DS after just a couple of years or so!)
I'd love to see how the first year (and second year seperately) of retail releases compares between the two consoles (I'd bet that the scenario looks a lot more favourable for the 3DS than it does when we include download only releases...).
I'd love to see how the first year (and second year seperately) of retail releases compares between the two consoles (I'd bet that the scenario looks a lot more favourable for the 3DS than it does when we include download only releases...).
Not that I'm aware of. There's nothing as bad as Skylight Freerange on Switch.
No one shitposts about shovelware on PS4 though.
Hell Switch is getting shit for some ecchi games, pretty much all of which have been appearing on Vita/PS4 for years.
Cheap or mediocre =/= shovelware in my book, shovelware is stuff you would mostly see in Wii / DS like "My life with my mother-in-law" and "OMG shoez!"
I don't think Switch has a lot of shit like that, certainly not thr overwhelming majority.
I'd like to point out that the 3DS had basically the weakest third party support of any Nintendo handheld. At best, it was on par with the better of Nintendo's post-SNES consoles (GameCube and Wii), at worst, it was a massive step back from its predecessors. No major western support at all, lackluster indie support, even Japanese support was lacking in a lot of areas. I love the 3DS, but it's much more of a Nintendo box than people like to admit. It's no surprise the Switch is on track to surpass it in such a short amount of time. It actually has reliable support across the board, not just from a few close friends (Capcom, Square, Atlus)
And yesterday there was an argument in the npd thread about which between the WiiU and the switch had the better third party support... This board, sometimes, I swear...
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Literally no, but we don't let facts get in the way of our headcanon around these parts.
*turns on Switch*
*gets lost and overwhelmed in eshop*
*turns off Switch*
Is the eshop bad or is it me, I would like to know what to buy but eh.
*gets lost and overwhelmed in eshop*
*turns off Switch*
Is the eshop bad or is it me, I would like to know what to buy but eh.
Some of those games are close to being the best games on the system, let alone shovelware. Voez is a classic.
The portability and touchability made the Switch getting a lot of mobile titles that other consoles won't have outside few exceptions (Oceanhorn, Severed etc.).
