Intentional or not, I just rested my hand on my arm like that and it's hella uncomfortable and not at all natural. So weird.
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Intentional or not, I just rested my hand on my arm like that and it's hella uncomfortable and not at all natural. So weird.
Let's end this back and forth on who is more conspiratorial, and move on to discussing the nomination hearing. Thank you.
People are going to see what they see. You can whine about how you think it makes our side look all you want, but it's right there in front of your face.
It doesn't actually matter because we allready know she's a white supremecist so I'm not going to push the issue further, and that signal is not going to change anyone's minds. Milo wore Nazi regalia, threw up a Nazi salute, and consulted with Nazis for his writings, and people still wrung their hands calling him a Nazi. So yes, I will agree with you guys that it is a waste of time.
Honestly pointing something out as an alt right troll does not make people crazy. Y'all seriously can fuck off with that.
First it was "she didn't do it on purpose" and now it's "ok but it doesn't really mean anything"
Nobody said she got the alert from some "secret cabal" of KKK grand wizards or what the fuck ever.
Is it so hard to believe that
1. She did it on purpose
2. The sign reflects alt right association
3. It's troublesome that this person has already been influential in federal policy.
That's it! It's literally not a leap or conspiracy theorizing. Nobody is saying this woman is the devil or in the Illuminati. We're saying either she or someone she's close with is associated with these online communities. And these communities could be described as white supremacist.
I'm not saying she's part of a cabal, but that she could be flashing a sign in order to distract from cavanaugh and incite outrage from the left. Trolling.
I was confused by the video because I was looking for a white woman. She looks kinda brown to me.
Since I can't send you a private message:
We just letting people call other people dipshits huh?
Whatever no hard feelings to Baji as long as it's consistent.
I think it's pretty telling that we've even reached a place where it's completely plausible that something like the white supremacy hand motion is possible by people this high up the ladder.
Dangerous times.
Dangerous times.
No hard feelings here either. I defenitely deserve a warning at least for violating tos with an insult. I just felt you were insulting everyone first with this line:
"Y'all sound like QAnon nuts and it's sad."
But yeah, warning, short ban, whatever I'll take it.
I ain't want to get you banned I just want shit to be consistent cause I know I don't have a leash long enough to get away with that right now is all.
Whatever as long as discussion gets back to the hearings.
The "ok sign is a white supremacist dog whistle!" is absolutely something propagated by alt-righters as a means to troll the media.
Buzzfeed News nicely summarized the (successful) effort back in 2017:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...p-internet-keeps-making-fake-hate-symbols-and
EDIT: As for the hearing, the most egregious thing about it was the records request denial from the GOP. But I'm not surprised, given how brazen they have become about all this since McConnell's gradual destruction of the processes of our government paid off.
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That's reasonable. Well, we're still both here so maybe we should both shut up about it and not push our luck, lol.
Works for Miller (who himself parnered with Richard Spencer), worked on the Muslim ban and Trump immigration policy.
Don't get the point of obsessing over this weird gesture crap when you got the president of the United States one ambien tweet away from using the n word.
She's clearly working on a white supremacy agenda and loved the proceedings, smirking numerous times as Dems tried to somehow stop the inevitable confirmation.
Oh it's noise and really not worth fixating on, but it just goes to show who these people are.
Sure, or she could be signing the word for "asshole" or trolling with that dumb circle game.
The way that the media, and left wing commentators, fell - and fall - into delegitimization attempts should be concerning. People in this thread accepted that the "okay" sign was an actual sign of white supremacy without any investigation into the premise.
Given that, I'm sure the campaign to adopt the peace sign as a white power symbol is going to go equally as well.
But that's why she did it. A person who we don't have very good reason to believe is a white supremacist can do it and it's fine.
I hope the Dem judiciary committee members are planning the next attack strategy for tomorrow. Do not relent on these fascist assholes.
There's not much else to attack beyond what they've done unless someone leaks something, which is very possible.
We need to think of this as not away to stop the confirmation, but as a way to signal and rile up the Dem base and more importantly independents. Roe v Wade is not very controversial to American constituents, it's very popular, so if the Dems can convince the left and the center that Trumps new pick is poised to upend women's rights unless they vote in 18 and 20... that's the most amount of actual good that can come from this.
You get the only thing that delegitimises this are other people on the left rushing to defend the alt right, yeah? It's not like this is some wild conspiracy theory and it's not like you could genuinely think her movements were unintentional after seeing the video. It's a woman with a shitty resume pulling off white power signs, I don't get why you have to run out and defend what she's doing rather than be critical of it? Because it's people on the left who go "Oh, that couldn't have been a Hitler Salute!" or "Fourteen words is just a coincidence!" or "Well, the Okay symbol doesn't mean anything... I mean it wasn't an intentional movement... I mean who cares you're over reacting?" Maybe being explicit over what these things are will help the uninformed pick up on them rather than just saying people who are meant to be on your side are crazy conspiracy theorists whilst defending the dog whistling of your supposed enemies.
Any chance dems could not show up so republicans don't have a quorum and therefore can't actually take a vote? I know they have the votes but I thought I read somewhere they still need like 10-15 dems to be present during roll call or something to have a quorum?
Republicans would just say that Kavanaugh's confirmation is honoring John McCain and every single Dem would storm in and line up.
Yes, however, the senate could request a vote requesting the absent senators to attend a future session. If they do not attend that session the senate can vote to have them essentially arrested and brought to the senate floor.
This would only extend the process a week at the most.
Edit: I think this idea was floated around under the assumption that McCain would be absent. The quorum requirement is a simple majority. The GOP will have 51 senators present.
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This settles it.
I hope the husband - who so vehemently defended her online - sees this.
I'm fairly surprised that there are people who still don't think the okay sign is used in alt-right circles. Yes, it's stupid and yes, it's done to give both plausible deniability and push forth the premise that it's such an absurd notion that the left must be crazy to believe it. But how many times does it need to show up in alt-right groups in literally every level of government before people at least admit it's a thing? The signal obviously started as a means to troll media, but through repeated use over the last two years, the concept it mocks became a reality. Once again, if the only people using the symbol around political events and figures are people who align with the alt-right, then it is an alt-right symbol. I also was ready to say today's example was genuinely not meant to be the sign, but really the video makes it kind of clear. It's reasonable to call it bait or a non-issue, but don't say it isn't done on purpose. Interestingly, though Trump does it like 5 times a conversation while talking I think in his case it's simply that he can't help but do random things with his hands while speaking because he's a moron.
That said, today it's noise in the face of a possible future of incredibly regressive polices being enacted by a new supreme court. I'm sure /pol/ couldn't be happier that a segment of news cycle time is being cannibalized today due to Bash.
That said, today it's noise in the face of a possible future of incredibly regressive polices being enacted by a new supreme court. I'm sure /pol/ couldn't be happier that a segment of news cycle time is being cannibalized today due to Bash.
The way this works if they get proper
Mainstream they get backlash let them get their idiotic teenage troll kicks off . Bannon thought he had it he knocked off . Miller is keeping a low profile . This is a nothing at all . If you all truly believe race is an issue in America no shit some fucks will do something stupid . With some
Wacko signal . You see it implemented in law then fuck no
Edit it's an issue but it can't get blatant they get pushback always
I don't dip my head into US politics often, but I seen this had gone viral on Twitter
Not too sure who this woman is but maybe some of you need to chill it with conspiratorial thinking? Not long ago we had this on here
https://www.resetera.com/posts/9824021/
Sane Americans, adopting Alex Jones like thinking isn't going to help you turn your country around, please don't engage in it.
Not too sure who this woman is but maybe some of you need to chill it with conspiratorial thinking? Not long ago we had this on here
https://www.resetera.com/posts/9824021/
Sane Americans, adopting Alex Jones like thinking isn't going to help you turn your country around, please don't engage in it.
They should all walk out right before the vote.
Not sooner, get as much about him as possible on the official record beforehand.
She works for the insane bigot Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton. We already know she's a racist piece of shit regardless of her intent and she deserves zero benefit of the doubt.
Yes.
She might be many things but this is "every okay looking symbol = Nazi" part 2. Engage in speaking factually, when there is credible evidence, not engaging in something that would be on the Alex Jones show. It really doesn't help and gives your political opponents an easy "win".
Every single person who remains in the Republican party is factually a piece of shit and is at minimum okay with fascism as long as it serves their interests. They deserve no sympathy, mercy, or understanding.
I'm not concerned with your opinions, have them, I just don't like seeing absolutely stupid diversions take over legitimate political discourse with people arguing as if they're trying to make a case for seeing Jesus in a piece of toast.
Social media is completely ruining American political discourse.
oh good lord. some of this rethoric has gotten completely out of hand. Its not like friggin america is a saint. Or any other country. It completely astounds me how clueless some ppl on this forum are on how complex the world is.
oh I'm sorry this doesn't fit your "both sides are a little good and a little bad" narrative but the truth is undeniable.
just read up on ishan's post history, honestly might the first poster to go on my ignore list.
youre welcome to . I have very low tolerance or patience for ppl with no understanding of the other side either. You dont think the other side is worth listening to . I dont think your words have that much worth either. I value level minded ppl not extreme ppl
ppl who think one side is completely correct are a dime a dozen. especially in current scenarios.
I disagree.
The GOP wins because they take no prisoners in the knowledge that when in power the Democrats will always try to be bi-partisan and follow existing norms. At this point the GOP does not deserve the benefit of the doubt over anything and if the Democrats do anything less than go in for the kill if they do well in the mid terms will prove that point.
The hand sign was deliberately made, I think.
However, not to send secret signals to the white supremacists, but as a troll to incite what will be perceived by the average joe as crazy talk and provide fuel to the "leftists gone mad" narrative.
An overreaction on social media will also make kavanaugh look more legitimate by comparison of whatever conspiracy is perceived to be cooked up by what will be seen as crazy leftists.
Don't fall for the bait, and stop giving them ammo. It doesn't help anything.
However, not to send secret signals to the white supremacists, but as a troll to incite what will be perceived by the average joe as crazy talk and provide fuel to the "leftists gone mad" narrative.
An overreaction on social media will also make kavanaugh look more legitimate by comparison of whatever conspiracy is perceived to be cooked up by what will be seen as crazy leftists.
Don't fall for the bait, and stop giving them ammo. It doesn't help anything.